Both in a Octavia and both are approx 5yrs years old (petrol is 6months younger). Both have had the cambelt carried out and the diesel needs (is having a new clutch and slave cylinder) before sale.

Both are 6spd manual and I'll be doing 15,000miles a year.

Both 150bhp

Both full Skoda history, well the diesel missed one.

Has anyone driven Both engines?

The diesel is 1k cheaper.

I have driven a 1.4 TSI Passat (close enough to the Octavia), personally I felt it was little underpowered.

If you are going to have passengers and a boot full of stuff, I would go for the diesel or higher powered petrol model.

 

It is worth checking what savings are to be had with the tax, fuel economy and servicing costs between the two cars.

My diesel VRS is more expensive to run than my partners Polo TSI on a yearly basis (same mileage) due to tax, servicing and fuel costs. 

 

 

The majority of the time it'll be and a mountain bike inside or commuting. 

 

Twice yearly a Euro trip.

 

Tax it's 20 v £30. My 'concern' on the 2lt diesel is it's relatively low mileage so possible DPf, egr issues?

Ps. I've only driven the CR so far but it felt slightly flat? I put that down to the slave cylinder needing changing though. 

 

I drive the petrol soon. 

Welcome.

What miles have they done.   

 

Skoda Main Dealer Histories are great, they can show what got done or was not done. 

Was it Oil & Filter Changes and Pollen, and much else carried out before 3 years or since 3 years?

 

Other than these biggies like belt and clutch.   Check any Warranty work that is on the System for Skoda and Servicing & Maintenance.

1 minute ago, e-Roottoot said:

 

 

Edited 1 October, 20214 yr by e-Roottoot

Hi thank you both for replying. 

 

The diesels belt/pump was done at an independent this year 

 

The 1.4 cambelt will be carried out with the service due at the same time by the other main dealer.

 

Both cars are circa 44/45,000miles. 

 

Diesel registered in May 2016, petrol in Jan 2017.

10 minutes ago, Hugo_Stiglitz said:

The majority of the time it'll be and a mountain bike inside or commuting. 

 

Twice yearly a Euro trip.

 

Tax it's 20 v £30. My 'concern' on the 2lt diesel is it's relatively low mileage so possible DPf, egr issues?

If the car has been used for loads of short trips with a cold engine then potentially, it depends if it has had time to do a routine regen. If you are buying from a dealer, they should be able to print out the DPF levels for you.

My car is a 66 and i purchased it in January with 22k on the clock (full dealer history), I checked the DPF levels prior to signing for the car, luckily they were low as I guess it spent most of its time on the M6 😂

I haven't had any DPF lights to date, it will usually do an regen itself every 500miles or so. 

 

My car takes around 6-10miles to get reach operating temp, if your trips are often going to be short city trips then a petrol is best.

I guess as they are similar in price, age and running costs, the next thing I would look at is condition and optional extras.

 

 

 

Was going to say it's low mileage on a diesel for the age but the above post puts that to bed. Like mentioned check the dpf state.

 

Also add that 15k should be fine for either. It's the driving profile and current state that should decide. Assuming the specs are identical?

Edited 1 October, 20214 yr by MarkyG82

My 16 plate VRS tdi has relatively low mileage due to a change in circumstances (illness and a job change, plus covid).

 

I predominantly drive 10 miles a day, if that, currently. That's if I'm going the shops and/or gym. This is because I'm working from home, but I do have the odd 80ish mile around trip if I'm required to attend one of my offices. I've VCDS and I often check the ash level and with the current level, my car's DPF is good for another 120k miles.

 

Would I have got the petrol VRS if I had a crystal ball back in 2016..........no, I don't think I would. I'm over the moon with how the diesel performs, both the pulling power when the car is either towing or with a full car load of people / luggage. I'm getting normally mid 40's with the majority town driving and easily into the mid 50's with longer motorway driving.

 

Just doing a few calculations with the lowest expected MPG for both the cars, over 15k miles with petrol at £1.40 and diesel at £1.47 (just added a bit because of market volatility), you're looking at a yearly petrol cost of around £2500 and a diesel one of £2000. If you are going to be doing the constant mileage and keep up with the required servicing, I can't see why a diesel wouldn't be a solid choice. Just be a case of working out how long you anticipate keeping said vehicle for and working out what the additional charges are likely to be with most cars.

£500 fuel saving is compelling. I too have a lot of small local mileage (especially in winter!). 

 

To the local supermarket

Buy croissants first thing

Coffee shop 2miles away

Gym

Etc

 

Commute currently is 12miles/25mins. Straight on motorway, straight off and I'll admit going home I do not allow the engine to warm up fully when I set off back at all hours. 

 

My only fear of the diesel is rhe clutch pedal had a very short travel with a very low bite point. Would this make the car 'sluggish' and lacking in expected oomph. 

 

 

57 minutes ago, Hugo_Stiglitz said:

My only fear of the diesel is rhe clutch pedal had a very short travel with a very low bite point. Would this make the car 'sluggish' and lacking in expected oomph. 

 

That sounds something is wrong? Unless clutch is goosed and slipping it should not affect performance.

 

In a Superb I've had a 1.9 pd diesel and currently have a previous generation EA111.4tsi petrol - the diesel was more economical but not by as much as I expected, 1.9 diesel - 50mpg whatever whereas 1.4tsi 45-50mpg sensitive to driving conditions . 

 

Deisel :-

• Better low rev torque
• Slightly better economy

Petrol

• Sooo quiet
• Petrol zap - I'd forgotten the way petrol engines really pick up as the revs rise but turbo also gives good pull at lower revs
• No DPF
• no DMF(manual)
• The EA211 1.4 tsi seems to be one of the "good" engines
• External slave cylinder (2.0 CR diesel is concentric - within bellhousing)

 

Myself - I will not buy a diesel going forward unless my annual mileage exceeds 20k miles - until Covid I was doing about 16k miles / year

 

 

Edited 1 October, 20214 yr by bigjohn

9 hours ago, Hugo_Stiglitz said:

 

To the local supermarket

Buy croissants first thing

Coffee shop 2miles away

Gym

Etc

 

Commute currently is 12miles/25mins. Straight on motorway, straight off and I'll admit going home I do not allow the engine to warm up fully when I set off back at all hours. 

 

Sounds like a good reason to get the petrol.

I personally don't think 5 year old 45k diesel will cope well with your driving profile. You may get lucky but without knowing how it's been driven.....more likely to have been short journeys than not.

The garage with the diesel for sale has just updated me saying its having its clutch and DMF replaced. Symptoms on the test drive were really short clutch travel/sluggish pickup. 

It should be Bob on after that? I.e. dmf won't cause issues to other part of engine on a VAG? No excess vibration noted on test drive. 

I ran both through Skodas extended warranty for an indicator on how they view them in a used warranty scenario.

 

Both exact same terms etc.

 

Petrol £277 a year

Diesel £655 a year

 

Both fully all in and £100 excess. 

On 01/10/2021 at 14:15, MATT0693 said:

I have driven a 1.4 TSI Passat (close enough to the Octavia), personally I felt it was little underpowered.

If you are going to have passengers and a boot full of stuff, I would go for the diesel or higher powered petrol model.

 

It is worth checking what savings are to be had with the tax, fuel economy and servicing costs between the two cars.

My diesel VRS is more expensive to run than my partners Polo TSI on a yearly basis (same mileage) due to tax, servicing and fuel costs. 

Hi Matt is it possible you are 'spoiled' alittle having the VRS TDI so the 1.4TSI Passat felt underwhelming when compared alongside?

On 01/10/2021 at 14:15, MATT0693 said: