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They will know then how many are no longer working of those there were last year and how many are out of order at any time.

Today it was the Vauxhall boss i heard first saying 40% of homes have no driveways and that is 60% in urban areas.

That nonsense needs to be knocked on the head. Is that even the percentage of buildings without a driveway.

They are really just picking numbers any numbers.

The dude from Vauxhall said 40 BEV models from Stallantis and ones with over 400 miles range.

Super bl00dy dooper.

2 hours ago, lol-lol said:

Latest Octopus "GO" tariff bill shows my average cost of lecky is 13p per kWh which is across the 5 hours of cheap ie 8.5 p per kWh and the 19 hours of more expensive 25.5 p per kWh Day time lecky.

GO tariff users are still waiting for notification what rates and what time periods we are are going to get for Q2 of 2025 and we are hoping Octopus will respond to Eon incredible 6.7 p per kWh for 7 hours rate the have published.

On the car front the Zoe is due to end its PCP a bit later this year and I was fairly sure I was going for the Renault 5 after so many rave reviews ie Car of the Year 2025 and all that jazz. Well say the 5 a few days ago and thought not for me,for the money too compromised especially for me and my tall family members. Albeit it is only as a back up for the Scenic.

So going to try the Dacia Spring. £10K cheaper, amazing finance deals, better screen in the Extreme trim than the R5, one can get a frunk as a fitment for cables etc, hate digging cables out of the underfloor in the Scenic and Zoe when the charge ports are at the front. Lots of negative and positive reports on the Spring.

Dacia spring extreme brand new pre-reg less than £13,000

18 minutes ago, Stonekeeper said:

Dacia spring extreme brand new pre-reg less than £13,000

I like the Extreme version with the 10 inch plus 7 inch screens but the non Extreme without the biggish screen is good value though I think the 65 hp rather than the 45 hp one is better to go for. 0 to 62 in nearly 20 seconds is a on the slow side.

I like the idea of the Frunk and a £10k less than the R5 it seems to fit the bill as a back up to the main car should I arrive with the Scenic's battery flatter than a pancake. Great around town etc I reckon but can do motorway ie can hold 77 mph in most conditions but expect less than 100 miles range but then I could get from Worcester and down to South Wales and charge up for £2 and blast back again. Very cheap motoring.

Mr Modern Heroes is from Glos I think.

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Are the British media now suppressing any negative EV stories or what? This Mercedes EQ car parked in a Sheffield street, which didn't appear to be on charge either, but within seconds the car had suffered total thermal runaway, several explosions burning debris being shot out starting other fires.

Does anyone know if this has been reported anywhere, if so, any links to the news?

Exclusive: Terrifying moment ANOTHER Mercedes EV spontaneously EXPLODES | MGUY Australia

'This story has not been reported as far as i can see.' Does he mean in UK papers / media?

Mercedes will know if this is in the UK or elsewhere, date stamp.

He was sent the Video, did the person not send to the press?

There are Fire and Emergency Services that will be aware, the owners, the insurers, the council / local authority.

He is a bundle of joy. Great he is looking after us all from far far away in another time zone.

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1 hour ago, Ootohere said:

'This story has not been reported as far as i can see.' Does he mean in UK papers / media?

Mercedes will know if this is in the UK or elsewhere, date stamp.

He was sent the Video, did the person not send to the press?

There are Fire and Emergency Services that will be aware, the owners, the insurers, the council / local authority.

He is a bundle of joy. Great he is looking after us all from far far away in another time zone.

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Sadly, the car fire in the overnight incident report is NOT the one in the video, how do I know this, simple, firstly the time stamp on the video is just before midnight, the report states it was at 7.55pm, and they left the scene at 8.10pm, impossible. It also states the car was deliberately set on fire and yet the video does not show any sign of a flame until after the explosion, any flames would have been highly visible at night, even if masked by the car, the flickering light from them would have been very visible reflecting off the surroundings. Prior to the explosion, it was white smoke, a tell-tale sign of the battery malfunctioning and venting gases.

Secondly, looking at the street Atkins Road on Google Earth clearly shows all the houses along the entire road have drives at the front of their houses and cars parked on them, unlike the houses in the video which do not.

So clearly there is something wrong here, the official report does not reflect that fire, whether that is because the event was covered up, or the information sent to M Guy was not correct, or it was in another town, whatever, you cannot say that M Guy is misrepresenting the truth, the fire did happen and that car was not set on fire, it started that fire all by itself.

As to M Guy looking after us from a different time zone, far, far away, is laughable, he is not looking after us, he is just highlighting what he considers to a very dangerous side effect of electric cars, and he can only do that after the event, to be looking after us, he would to forewarn us that the car was about to self combust.😉

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He is a Rodney. Simples.

Nothing on Facebook. Quite a cover up.

M Guy should maybe give the cash money from this little vid to some charity.

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Another quite interesting story and a possible block to people getting an electric car. Lambeth Council are looking to charge people about £7,000 for the right to park their car in their own front garden (where there is enough space on older houses to do this) especially when they have converted their garden to allow this in order to be able to charge at home.

This couldn't possibly be because the council is in the red to the tune of millions of £ could it??

🚨 New Climate change scam! Labour council demands £7000 from residents to park on their own Drives!

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'Calculated to cost £7,000" So the council is not DEMANDING £7,000 now are they!

The company that was preparing for Full Fibre outside my house so digging up the pavements charge £1,800 to do the dropped kerb and that includes the Permit from the Council

That might just be cheaper for many reasons, but it is far from £7,000.

............

Lambeth.

So maybe £4,000 for Searches, Planning, Permits. Then the dropped kerb.

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You decide on validity of this channel:

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Stance of a single governing party rarely has any weight on global movements.

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Tesla owners rebranding their cars as Audis ICE cars .......

(Presumably to avoid vandalism due to Elon Musk's more recent political and government actions)

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Not bursting on fire.

They could have got a John Cooper Works MINI Electric with 258 hp for this comparison rather than a Cooper SE with JCW trim. .

Maybe with more tyre scrabbling though.

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Such is life if you lease / rent a Prestige vehicles as a company car / business and personal use.

What needs looked at is the difference of the costs of running an ICE or EV Porsche over the 3 or 4 years or longer.

Money down, monthlies, maintenance, running cost of fuel, insurance etc. Tax benefits.

You pay £1,000 or more a month because you are driving a £120,000 car, well it was that on the invoice.

WBAC / Mptorway / other TRADE buyers are buying a car to sell. That is what they give in Cash Money, not what the car will be selling at to a 2nd keeper at what ever outlet.

As to subscribers for Electric Car Content if you have no Electric car like a Taycan / Mecan there will be no Electric Car content and what does HMRC give as a wee sweetener to do your Filming and Transportation in a Porsche 911?

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4 hours ago, lol-lol said:

SMMT data for February 2025.....

BEV + PHEV + HEV now exceed number of pure petrol car sales.

https://www.smmt.co.uk/vehicle-data/car-registrations/

Can't you see the woods from the trees!? It's all pre-reg and hidden away in underground car parks. No one wants those.

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On 10/03/2025 at 08:30, wyx087 said:

Can't you see the woods from the trees!? It's all pre-reg and hidden away in underground car parks. No one wants those.

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Never happened in ICE times ! Might be something to do with Covid as well though.

I remember seeing some models at Portbury docks for months if not longer and they were right by the sea, well Bristol Channel, so would have had some salty air for good measure.

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11 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

Never happened in ICE times ! Might be something to do with Covid as well though.

I remember seeing some models at Portbury docks for months if not longer and they were right by the sea, well Bristol Channel, so would have had some salty air for good measure.

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They were storing cars at Bruntingthope airfield long before Covid and also in fields around Chelmsford, especially Fords and Vauxhalls, none were pre registered though and were still in their semi protective wax paper etc awaiting their PDIs.

11 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

They were storing cars at Bruntingthope airfield long before Covid and also in fields around Chelmsford, especially Fords and Vauxhalls, none were pre registered though and were still in their semi protective wax paper etc awaiting their PDIs.

It is unusual for me to praise US buyers but they are much more orientated to what is a cars model year. Sometimes it is good to specify some odd features so one knows one is getting the latest build.

With EVs the battery packs can improve by a percent or two as energy density incrementally improves so the later factory build can have more battery storage. The car makers, like Renault, will keep calling the car 60 kWh but actually the battery is bigger when measured by draw test and using car scanner though sometimes the BMS will disguise the lower and upper buffers.

The tiny Dacia Spring battery has driven 40 km past nil % state of charge. My 60 kWh Scenic did not even give a performance warning until 11 miles past zero percent battery showing.

Spring's actual battery useability is from -9% and can charge to 106%. A 15% useabilty more than 100% displayed.

Keep meaning to get Car Scanner to see some of the internal information.

Maybe we will see hybrid batteries growing quite a bit well as those batteries cheaper so hybrids will get better. If they "save" drivers and fast parcel operator running costs they should not stay in the customs warehouse at the ports. Cheaper finance coming too with lower Base rates should also help car sales.

There was a reported EV car on fire in the tunnel under Heathrow Airport yesterday morning and was covered by a couple of YouTubers but I didn't post about it because I had serious doubts about the validity of the reports seeing as the fire brigade quickly extinguished it. Well as it turns out it seems my gut feeling was right and turns out the car was a diesel after all.

Heathrow Airport tunnel fire: Was it really an EV? | Auto Expert John Cadogan

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Which Media group, publisher, journal or channel was it that 'reported' it as an EV fire?

1 hour ago, Ootohere said:

@Graham Butcher

Which Media group, publisher, journal or channel was it that 'reported' it as an EV fire?

Geoff buys cars was one I remember claiming it was, although he did say that it was yet to be confirmed as he couldn't find any further info as I think the North Sea collision was taking all the headlines then.

Oh and it was reported by The Sun, LBC, Twitter (X) etc.

Breaking News! EV Fire causes HUGE DELAYS at Heathrow Airport

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Not a journalist then, not a reliable source of any news and not someone that checks sources once, twice or thrice. He reads out what others publish.

This is the issue with Vloggers that just say stuff regardless and then others share and repeat.

I see the media that reported a fire, just not a EV fire.

It was which of them i was asking that had reported an EV fire caused the disruption. So which Live broadcast and updates he was telling us about. Is it LBC or AN Other?

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I see / hear. THE MIRROR & THE SUN.

So they are the reporters of False News without doing Journalistic Checks.

Scottish DAILY RECORD as well. Same publishers as THE MIRROR.

Everything needs taken with a degree of mistrust.

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Still possible it was an EV as unless the battery is on fire, it will burn the same as a ICE car. I say still possible as I have not seen anything to state what type of car it actually was and if the fire was caused by faulty 12v electrics or a cigarette, then upto the point where the traction battery gets involved in the fire, the car will exhibit exactly like a ICE car on fire. Presumedly the fire was reported by the driver/owner of the car and the London Fire Brigade said that they had been called to an EV fire, but the fact that they had put the fire out in such a short time means that if it was an EV, then the battery 100% was part of the fire.

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