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6 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

Good to drive too with its suspension geomerty. 18 inch wheels bit big and I wish uk had the All Season option with 16s or 17s. Other than that ok for a 2 or 3 adult seater and 1 or 2 smallish kids.

Renault has always had a reputation, along with Citroën for an excellent smooth ride.

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10 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

Renault has always had a reputation, along with Citroën for an excellent smooth ride.

Not just smooth but good body control by using advanced multilink suspension rather than torsion as oft used in B segment cars. Paired with low centre of gravity too. Much better than my first Renault 5 Campus of decades ago.

Plunge oricing on many public charging networks.

Negative electricity prices yesterday, today and Agile Predict reckons for tomorrow currently.

T minus 25 days for Zero VAT on home electricity !

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13 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

T minus 25 days for Zero VAT on home electricity !

Finally we actually get something that was promised if we left the EU, only taken almost 6 years to deliver it.☹️

For 6 months unless it is extended. Electricity only. 5% not to pay. Instead of £100 you will be £95. Easily with the cost of domestic gas this winter which there is still 5% vat to pay on the treasury is still going to be many quids in.

38 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

Finally we actually get something that was promised if we left the EU, only taken almost 6 years to deliver it.☹️

I think we could have zero rated electricity before but coukd be wrong, what you cannot have is too many different rates ie you can have zero, super sensitive, sensitive, standard and high. I would like to see a 10% rate for public charging perhaps and other goods and maybe other rates, 15, 25 etc.

I recall rates of 8, 10 12.5, 15, 17.5% we have had in the UK. In my tax collectors roll one gad to learn new fractions to work out tge tax base from the retail price. Currently 20/21 ths, but previous interestingly feactions like 40 / 47 ths. The fun never ended !

I would like many things, but have to take what comes my way because I am not Putin or Trump. Plans for a new Data Centre at Black Dog as a neighbour for Trump's Aberdeen golf courses and powered from the wind turbines just offshore. So regardless of his wishes they are staying. Even he can not stop the Data Centre if planning is approved. As it is he is supposed to be a fan of such things. Some can be beautifully according to him.

8 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

I think we could have zero rated electricity before but coukd be wrong, what you cannot have is too many different rates ie you can have zero, super sensitive, sensitive, standard and high. I would like to see a 10% rate for public charging perhaps and other goods and maybe other rates, 15, 25 etc.

I recall rates of 8, 10 12.5, 15, 17.5% we have had in the UK. In my tax collectors roll one gad to learn new fractions to work out tge tax base from the retail price. Currently 20/21 ths, but previous interestingly feactions like 40 / 47 ths. The fun never ended !

Don't you remember the likes of JRM appearing on TV and stating we couldn't reduce or remove VAT as long as we remained in the EU, claiming the EU would not allow it? All kinds of promises were made: clothing, shoes, and food would come down, thus reducing the cost of living- all big fat lies.

50 minutes ago, Evolution13 said:

For 6 months unless it is extended. Electricity only. 5% not to pay. Instead of £100 you will be £95. Easily with the cost of domestic gas this winter which there is still 5% vat to pay on the treasury is still going to be many quids in.

6 months sounds fair to me, in the April to September period normally we would be expecting to use less electricity and therefore the VAT makes less different. What even the more aware of us did not expect was the high prices of electricity due to the very high summer temperatures taking out so many European power station, so expensive or non existent inter European interconnector prices and our own UK power stations operating less efficiently, and therefore more expensive dure to the high UK temperature reduce our power station efficiency.

Added to the above I expect millions of people in the UK to be be benefiting from balcony solar so this will clip the amount of power being used so could drive up prices for those not having balcony solar as electricity suppliers try to maintain profits on reduced sales of electricity. I think many will not by their balcony setup until next spring to wait until our sun, Sol, returns to the northern hemisphere. Octopus doing a 500w kit for £450, pay back time about 4 years I would mount the single 450w panel on one of my solar arrays to increase harvesting by about 40% to track the sun. This would relate some of my 120 w panels to fence based, couple perhaps East facing to collect morning sun and couple on West facing to collect evening sun.

VAT can be reviewed and set to collect some many to pay down the massive UK debt and fund policy whilst not being too onerous to consumers.

7 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

Don't you remember the likes of JRM appearing on TV and stating we couldn't reduce or remove VAT as long as we remained in the EU, claiming the EU would not allow it? All kinds of promises were made: clothing, shoes, and food would come down, thus reducing the cost of living- all big fat lies.

Many of these are national choices. Lots of people in the 26 counties of Southern Ireland go to the 6 northern counties on the island of Ireland to buy children's cloths as zero rated in the 6 counties but a positive VAT in the 26. The tampax VAT was a good example where is was EU requirement to have some VAT on the product, so wrong.

The common customs tariff is one area the UK got some freedom ie many items duty is 6% and not 6.5%, wow. The UK does maintain dynamic alignment, mainly due to the mess of the arrangement with the two parts of Ireland. Love the complexity.

As I said before we have to be raising a good trillion pounds of indirect taxes to support the direct tax take to buy our national bills. The margins on cloths can be truly staggering. the import duties and VAT are a small part of the elements from manufacture in CN, VN or wherever to the price in the shops I have seen looking at the buy prices on import invoices to declare.

JRM is a tw*t.

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Yes Millions of people if this is true about balcony solar will be the haves not the have not.s getting it. People need money up-front to purchase. Or on tick, Klarna, credit, buy now pay later and default later and be deeper in the sh!7.

2 minutes ago, Evolution13 said:

Yes Millions of people if this is true about balcony solar will be the haves not the have not.s getting it. People need money up-front to purchase. Or on tick, Klarna, credit, buy now pay later and default later and be deeper in the sh!7.

Hopefully some good deals like with Boxt boilers, ie £12 a month when they were saving more than that. One of Scotland's greatest sons, IMO, actor Brian Cox, not the astrophysics guy, was promoting and I have lots of respect for him.

Hopefully some freebies from counculs, Octopus forcthe needy. I actually only use about 200w during the day time and electricty bit cheaper after 1900 usually. Also Octopus will be doing batteries next year which can be a big saving. Also would lije to see Octopus and others doing long term repayment so people using the saving to buy over 3 years or so.

All doable and a chance this will happen much more than the previous governments.

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