Light Goods and HGV,s will be fuelling up with DERV for many a year. as will many millions of diesel cars, and petrol cars will be getting fuelled up for a decade or 2. As to BEV,s, plenty people that can offroad park and charge off the road are still not buying or leasing BEV,s. The wish and dream of Politicians or Interested parties is just not happening at the pace they would like.

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The Fine Print mentions about the self harm the UK has and is continuing to do it self with the Zero Emission mandate and is a clear example of follow the money principle.

10 minutes ago, Evolution13 said:

Light Goods and HGV,s will be fuelling up with DERV for many a year. as will many millions of diesel cars, and petrol cars will be getting fuelled up for a decade or 2. As to BEV,s, plenty people that can offroad park and charge off the road are still not buying or leasing BEV,s. The wish and dream of Politicians or Interested parties is just not happening at the pace they would like.

With 30% of new car sales as EV and then plug in and'self charging' hybrids making up over half of new car sales and electric cars on average driving more than ICE the transition is not too bad on course i would say.

UK always going to have a problem due to driving on the left and getting new cars 6 months or so later. With fuel prices climbing ever higher, even Trump says oil prices not coming down until at least after the November Mid Terms.

Some even better and cheap EVs coming on to UK market in the next few weeks making the differential in running cost even wider suggesting to those who are cost contious rather than stubbornly anti EV pro ICE will see how much money they can save and spend on other things.

The very cheap PCPs on some Stellantis cars and the Dacia Spring and small Renaults plus Leapmotor, BYD Dolphin must be tempting to the cost counting drivers.

5 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

The Fine Print mentions about the self harm the UK has and is continuing to do it self with the Zero Emission mandate and is a clear example of follow the money principle.

The Excise Duty on fuel has been a brilliant tax collecting measure. It is the most efficient tax in relation to what is collected and what is spent collecting.

VAT is still 20% on EVs like all cars so is significant revenue stream as is VAT on hydrocarbon fuel. In real terms the level of Excise Duty currently is much less than it was a decade or decade and a half ago. 3p a mile on EVs and 1.5p on hybrids will not fill the Excise hole by my reckoning.

The reduced Oil Refining facilities in the UK and none in Scotland is not good for Transport Fuel or petrochemicals security in the UK and the reliance on LNG from the US is a risk. The Scottish Dual Fuel Ferry Glen Sannox that has been nothing but trouble & hugely over budget has been running on diesel since July. A major issue that seemingly was not life threatening. We will see..... A valve and sensor issue and lack of shared information from a manufacturer about updates and modifications to the owners / operators/ staff maintaining and sailing the ship.

The whole point is that self charging hybrids and plug in hybrids still rely on combustion engines. Self charging only have an very short ev capacity and PHEVs, mostly are not plugged in they used as tax dodgers.