Pleased !

38 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

Pleased !

The only car to appear in 3 sections as well.

World of EV trucks moving fast and might partly save us from diesel shortage on harming the moving of goods in Europe.

Also article giving data just how much quicker Electric Trucks are than diesel trucks. We have BYD EV trucks being introduced to Europe shorlty, and they will build the megawatt plus charging network, Mercedes, Tesla and my old firm Ceva buying the Windrose D700 which have interesting stats. 0 to 60 in 12.5 seconds and 24 seconds when loaded. A diesel HGV would typically take twice as long. More importantly the loss of momentum up inclines is far less in the electric truck to the wiesel.

"Gradients show the same advantage, with the Semi holding 65 mph on a 3% incline where a diesel typically drops to around 50. The practical value is less about straight-line speed than about traffic.

A truck that can merge onto a motorway at pace, clear an intersection quickly and maintain speed uphill removes friction from every journey and reduces the situations where a heavy vehicle becomes an obstruction to everyone around it."

https://www.facebook.com/teslainsiderfb/posts/tesla-has-given-top-gear-acceleration-figures-for-the-production-semi-and-the-nu/122170847468664960/

This happens and worse ie only get 26 KWs, or getting nothing at all as I did twice on last BH weekend, presumably as there is not enough power to supply the chargers.

Southwaite services, between Penrith and Carlisle, so likely somebody is on a large trip up to Glasgow area or beyond.

26 KW is worst than my air cooled battery packed Zoe got, you may as well book yourself in the hotel at this slow rate .......

Place needs Megapacks or a better Grid connection or both.......

Edited 18 hours ago18 hr by lol-lol

& often in Scotland 50 kW max chargers might give only 26kW and be at Local Council provided chargers with a max 40 minutes allowed or 60 minutes max chearging time.

@lol-lol Surely, the slower acceleration of the diesel truck is a positive safety advantage, something to be thankful for. Have you ever driven a big heavy vehicle in earnest and for any real distance?

1 hour ago, lol-lol said:

This happens and worse ie only get 26 KWs, or getting nothing at all as I did twice on last BH weekend, presumably as there is not enough power to supply the chargers.

Southwaite services, between Penrith and Carlisle, so likely somebody is on a large trip up to Glasgow area or beyond.

26 KW is worst than my air cooled battery packed Zoe got, you may as well book yourself in the hotel at this slow rate .......

Place needs Megapacks or a better Grid connection or both.......

I don't know why you are so amazed by this. I've been saying for some time that the chargers are limited by the total incoming grid connection and supply size. The grid is going to struggle, and if electric trucking ever really takes off with trampers and freelance truckers, they will need to be using public chargers and will be taking ages charging. Unlike the Amazon trucks which will only be going from Amazon warehouse to another Amazon warehouse with their own chargers and will likely be there for many hours before doing the return trip to their home warehouse.

Purpose built HGV Charging hubs might well have the appropriate local Battery Storage & not National Grid supplies. You would damn well hope when Developing Low Carbon Hubs. BUT, this marvellous planned hub is only 100 yards from where there is 4 Unreliable Angus Council 50 kW chargers & 6 7 kW AC with 2 out of order for months and 4 22 kW ports that seldom even give 11 kW even with just one car plugged in.

Edited 7 hours ago7 hr by Evolution13

Hopefully the grid has capacity and will provide sufficient incoming power to the new hub?

The National Grid in England will not be fit for purpose for many a year. And the Transmission Lines due to be passing the New Hub in Forfar on their way south are struggling to get planning approval as are the Sub Stations along the way north and south. Kintore and Tealing. Local Solar and Wind and Battery Storage is a necessity. It is a POSTCODE Lottery, location location location. Just imagine that while these projects and already built facilities struggle to get the required electricity new MEGA / HYPER SCALE DATA CENTRES are built in the region.

Edited 6 hours ago6 hr by Evolution13

56 minutes ago, Evolution13 said:

Purpose built HGV Charging hubs might well have the appropriate local Battery Storage & not National Grid supplies. You would damn well hope when Developing Low Carbon Hubs. BUT, this marvellous planned hub is only 100 yards from where there is 4 Unreliable Angus Council 50 kW chargers & 6 7 kW AC with 2 out of order for months and 4 22 kW ports that seldom even give 11 kW even with just one car plugged in.

With electricity there is alternate solutions.

Firstly, like Europe and Fastned stations, these sites should have solar canopies and batteries as part of the site.

Solar and even wind turbines close by.

I can even see a day of mobile trucks visiting these sites and topping off batteries if the get low like fuel to a fuel station.

Battery swapping is a more sensible solution for trucks than cars i think.

Longer range cars will distort the need.

EV charging stations are only used about 12% of the time being idle the rest. Do we actually need 300,000 EV charge points as that is the stated aim.

With average EVs approaching 300 mile range but soon after that 400, 500 and 600 miles as more dense energy batteries are introduced.

I would just like honesty from the public charge providers and that feed into Google Maps ie not just charge available but if it has a capped power output so I don't waste my time and I go on to another charger.

Edited 6 hours ago6 hr by lol-lol

If they have the alternative solutions then great. Sadly this is the UK and sadly very little if anything is built on time to the budget and fit for purpose and if it is that does not mean there is a competent Local Authority making sure that the rest of the infrastructure is in place. The Future looks bright, but sadly because it is the UK it keeps being in the future............. Flight delays today. Disruption with Air Flight Control. National Air Traffic Services (Nats) Prestwick Centre. That is Air, Rail, Water & Electricity that is pretty crap in the UK, and roads and deliveries dependent on HGV charging for EV,s will be just the same old same old.

I am watching this with interest to see just how long this takes to get opened. It will be one of Scotlands most important charging places on the totally hopeless 'Electric A9 Highway' as far as Ultra Rapid charging. Within sight of the many many wind turbines just north of this. & next to the Upgraded Pylons & Transmission route North South. As to this article. Not a MOTORWAY as is obvious by the name A9 not M9.

Edited 4 hours ago4 hr by Evolution13

2017, a wish and a bl00dy dream... Nothing but delay and bluster and money available and not spent wisely if even spent on equipment. Plenty spent on Professional Fees and Meetings and planning and contracts. Not on actual equipment and where there is chargers they are 50 kW max and not fit for purpose within a decade.

Edited 4 hours ago4 hr by Evolution13

4/ Yes battery swaps

1 hour ago, lol-lol said:

With electricity there is alternate solutions.

Firstly, like Europe and Fastned stations, these sites should have solar canopies and batteries as part of the site.

Solar and even wind turbines close by.

I can even see a day of mobile trucks visiting these sites and topping off batteries if the get low like fuel to a fuel station.

Battery swapping is a more sensible solution for trucks than cars i think.

Longer range cars will distort the need.

EV charging stations are only used about 12% of the time being idle the rest. Do we actually need 300,000 EV charge points as that is the stated aim.

With average EVs approaching 300 mile range but soon after that 400, 500 and 600 miles as more dense energy batteries are introduced.

I would just like honesty from the public charge providers and that feed into Google Maps ie not just charge available but if it has a capped power output so I don't waste my time and I go on to another charger.

The above does sound feasible until you actually stop and think outside the box a bit.

1/ How large would the solar array need to be to top up storage batteries again after a couple of trucks have been recharged? The trucks will not know if the station has sufficient reserves to provide them with a charger, nor will the trucker know how long it has been since the last truck left the charger.

2/ Wind turbines are going to extremely popular and highly desirable in urban locations or beauty spots I don't think.

3/ EV stations may currently be idle for up to 88% of the time in some locations only (there is a large Tesla one near me and everytime I go past it, it always looks like all chargers are in use). As EVs become the more dominant type of motive power, that figure alters rapidly, especially if those who can't charge at home switch to EV power.

4/ Yes, trucks have battery swapping technology, which makes sense as it would keep them where they belong, on the road delivering the goods, but it still means that the hub still demands a huge grid connection so those batteries will be recharged ready for the next truck to roll in, requiring a fresh set of batteries.

The Wind Turbines all around Scotland & also are up in Beauty Spots and so are Pylons like from Beauly to the South and East. (within 1 mile of the Fasned planned site) Many turbines paid to not generate or not to provide electricity to that region. Not enough Battery Storage to take the energy or Hydrogen production plants. The Sub Stations are being blocked in planning and some are started to be built but not being allowed to be extended and are not up and running. NIMBY,s.

Edited 4 hours ago4 hr by Evolution13