Hi,

Back on the forum with my recently purchased Yeti (my third Yeti).

Had a Karoq, never herbed the alloys like I did in this one!

Most recent was a Kia Soul EV, public charging was a nightmare to say the least so back to the car I most liked, a Yeti!

Edited 29 January, 20233 yr by john999boy
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2 hours ago, cogggo said:

Hi,

Back on the forum with my recently purchased Yeti (my third Yeti).

Had a Karoq, never herbed the alloys like I did in this one!

Most recent was a Kia Soul EV, public charging was a nightmare to say the least so back to the car I most liked, a Yeti!

But apart from the nightmare charging how did you like the Soul EV?

3 hours ago, cogggo said:

Hi,

Back on the forum with my recently purchased Yeti (my third Yeti).

Had a Karoq, never herbed the alloys like I did in this one!

Most recent was a Kia Soul EV, public charging was a nightmare to say the least so back to the car I most liked, a Yeti!

How did you get on with the Karoq? We are thinking of swapping our petrol Yeti together with a pristine MB E coupe for a petrol automatic Karok. How does it compare with the yeti?

4 minutes ago, survey said:

How did you get on with the Karoq? We are thinking of swapping our petrol Yeti together with a pristine MB E coupe for a petrol automatic Karok. How does it compare with the yeti?

 

With both a 2016 SE L Drive 150 TDI 4x4 manual Yeti and a 2019 SE L 190 TDI DSG 4x4 sitting in the drive, my opinion is:

The Karoq is obviously larger. It's much more refined to drive. It has a range of drive mode options that the Yeti doesn't.  

 

On bumpy roads, it's more inclined to float over them whereas the Yeti leaps from crest to crest. 

The handling is very light when the steering isn't artificially weighted in Sport mode.  The Yeti feels more of a piece and perhaps a bit more chuckable.  However, the Karoq is very good and rotates exceptionally well in tight corners.

No doubt this is aided by XDS+ whereas even with XDS enabled on the front of my Yeti it isn't so good.  If you're not an enthusiastic press-on driver, some of this may not be relevant.

 

The seats in the Karoq are much more comfortable.  My Yeti has the rare, electrically adjustable, heated leather driver's seat which is reputedly the best but it's a hard and unsupportive thing compared to the Karoq leather seats. 

 

Anything else I can tell you....?  

Thanks for this. We have had a 4x4 TDI yeti and presently a 1.2 petrol Yeti. Both have been excellent. Just feel we now need one car rather than my mb and our shared yeti. I did wonder if there was any real downside to the Karoq. I was looking at petrol mainly for flexibility in ulez areas here and abroad. 

1 hour ago, Expatman said:

But apart from the nightmare charging how did you like the Soul EV?

The car was very good, not quite as much room around the driver as the yeti, nor in my opinion as a back sufferer was the comfort/support of the drivers seat but it was acceptable.

The Soul is a much under rated car.

Driving electric is so smooth and the Soul was electronically efficient as EVs go. The charging woes were just taking up too much time as especially in the last 6 months many public chargers I used were now the subject of queues to get onto the charger. So a 1.5 to 2 hour recharge stop was turning into a half day excercise.

 

2 minutes ago, survey said:

Thanks for this. We have had a 4x4 TDI yeti and presently a 1.2 petrol Yeti. Both have been excellent. Just feel we now need one car rather than my mb and our shared yeti. I did wonder if there was any real downside to the Karoq. I was looking at petrol mainly for flexibility in ulez areas here and abroad. 

 

TDI Karoq is Euro 6, so there shouldn't be an issue in ULEZ zones, for the moment, at least...   Personally, I dislike tall FWD cars.  I see many posts from people complaining that their 1.5 TSI DSG spins its wheels what pulling away briskly. I suspect that's low friction road surfaces exacerbate the problem. I think it's largely a cynical marketing exercise on behalf of car makers to sell cars to people who want to the looks of an SUV without the added costs in purchasing, running and maintaining an AWD car. 

 

I think I'm correct that the only petrol 4x4 Karoq is the Sportline 190 TSI which makes the 38-40 mpg that we average with the 190 TDI look very frugal. 

I really want to avoid diesel after many many diesel cars. The added complications of the injection systems and emissions with adblu etc. However I do miss the torque!

39 minutes ago, survey said:

How did you get on with the Karoq? We are thinking of swapping our petrol Yeti together with a pristine MB E coupe for a petrol automatic Karok. How does it compare with the yeti?

The Karoq is somewhat wider than the yeti which became a bit of an issue on narrow country roads, also having low profile tyres was a big mistake on SEL models IMO.

A smooth ride, I personally think the yeti seats were more supportive although I accept this is a very subjective opinion.

1.5 engine a bit thirstier than a 1.2 yeti, all my yetis and the Karoq had DSG boxes.

Our other option is to keep the yeti. It's a 2017 with 35000 on the clock. Not sure what would class as a sensible mileage to change the car, bearing in mind the run out of non- electric vehicles at the end of the decade.

1 hour ago, cogggo said:

The car was very good, not quite as much room around the driver as the yeti, nor in my opinion as a back sufferer was the comfort/support of the drivers seat but it was acceptable.

The Soul is a much under rated car.

Driving electric is so smooth and the Soul was electronically efficient as EVs go. The charging woes were just taking up too much time as especially in the last 6 months many public chargers I used were now the subject of queues to get onto the charger. So a 1.5 to 2 hour recharge stop was turning into a half day excercise.

 

Thanks, I have been looking for the last year for a replacement for my Yeti and cannot find anything to match it. I thought I should go for an EV but after investigation the lack of charging stations in remoter areas of Dorset and Devon ruled them out - backed up by talking with my nephew who has a “long range" EV but after having to queue for hours to recharge on the motorway they now use his wife’s diesel BMW for anything longer than day trips. Looked at Hybrids and a plethora of ICE cars but in the end couldn’t find anything I preferred to my Yeti, none seemed to be available with all the things that come with the Yeti - heated windscreen, heated leather seats, electrically adjustable memory driver seat, rear camera etc. - things I find invaluable and don’t want to be without. SO after much thought decided to keep my 2017 Yeti SEL Drive 1.2 DSG with 16” wheels for comfort. Treated it to new Michelin Crossclimate tyres and a new battery and dealer servicing since new.  I know one day I will have to change it but until I can find something at least equivalent I will stay with the Yeti.

23 minutes ago, Expatman said:

Thanks, I have been looking for the last year for a replacement for my Yeti and cannot find anything to match it. I thought I should go for an EV but after investigation the lack of charging stations in remoter areas of Dorset and Devon ruled them out - backed up by talking with my nephew who has a “long range" EV but after having to queue for hours to recharge on the motorway they now use his wife’s diesel BMW for anything longer than day trips. Looked at Hybrids and a plethora of ICE cars but in the end couldn’t find anything I preferred to my Yeti, none seemed to be available with all the things that come with the Yeti - heated windscreen, heated leather seats, electrically adjustable memory driver seat, rear camera etc. - things I find invaluable and don’t want to be without. SO after much thought decided to keep my 2017 Yeti SEL Drive 1.2 DSG with 16” wheels for comfort. Treated it to new Michelin Crossclimate tyres and a new battery and dealer servicing since new.  I know one day I will have to change it but until I can find something at least equivalent I will stay with the Yeti.

I am coming round to the same decision for similar reasons. The Yeti just seems to tick most of the boxes. The 1.2 is slightly underpowered in the lower gears, and ours is a manual but same spec as yours, but the mog is good and it does the job pretty well.

48 minutes ago, Expatman said:

Thanks, I have been looking for the last year for a replacement for my Yeti and cannot find anything to match it. I thought I should go for an EV but after investigation the lack of charging stations in remoter areas of Dorset and Devon ruled them out - backed up by talking with my nephew who has a “long range" EV but after having to queue for hours to recharge on the motorway they now use his wife’s diesel BMW for anything longer than day trips. Looked at Hybrids and a plethora of ICE cars but in the end couldn’t find anything I preferred to my Yeti, none seemed to be available with all the things that come with the Yeti - heated windscreen, heated leather seats, electrically adjustable memory driver seat, rear camera etc. - things I find invaluable and don’t want to be without. SO after much thought decided to keep my 2017 Yeti SEL Drive 1.2 DSG with 16” wheels for comfort. Treated it to new Michelin Crossclimate tyres and a new battery and dealer servicing since new.  I know one day I will have to change it but until I can find something at least equivalent I will stay with the Yeti.

I would agree with your thoughts. Although the yeti is not as top tech as some, I think overall it ticks many boxes.

how are you finding the cross climate tyres? My recent yeti purchase has nexen tyres which I am pretty sure could be improved on for rumble and road noise?

10 minutes ago, cogggo said:

how are you finding the cross climate tyres? My recent yeti purchase has nexen tyres which I am pretty sure could be improved on for rumble and road noise?

 

I fitted CrossClimate + to my Yeti just after I bought it 3 years ago.  It came on fairly worn Michelin Pilot Primacy.    I love the CrossClimates.  I think it's fair to say they've transformed the ride, handling, road holding and steering feel.

 

They charge through standing water without flinching.  They're almost as good on snow as the Dunlop D5 Winter Sport we have fitted to the Karoq, only losing out a bit on braking in those conditions.  The slightly rounded tread profile introduces a

really nice feel to the steering. They also tolerate my enthusiastic cross country driving style and provide enough grip to deploy all 186 bhp and c. 300 lbs-ft through all 4 wheels on a regular basis. 

 

Now, there's the new CrossClimate 2 which is reputedly even better. 

3 hours ago, cogggo said:

I would agree with your thoughts. Although the yeti is not as top tech as some, I think overall it ticks many boxes.

how are you finding the cross climate tyres? My recent yeti purchase has nexen tyres which I am pretty sure could be improved on for rumble and road noise?

Like Schtum the Crossclimate seem to suit the Yeti. Certainly reduced road noise and provide a softer ride, though to be fair most All Season tyres do that because of the softer compound. One thing though is to get the standard 95 tyres and not the XL (extra load) tyres. Experienced tyre man I know told me to be wary of XL’s because they tend to be louder and harder while many tyre depots will simply fit them if they have them in the right size rather than source the proper 95 load factor tyres.

Other factor is that I got the car new from Skoda fitted with 16” wheels and higher profile (60) tyres, these undoubtedly provide a more cosseting ride than the standard 17” wheels with lower (55) profile tyres. My wife has a back problem hence the need for a more comfy ride. Some say 16” wheels with higher profile tyres provide less ‘feel’ but I am not an “on the edge” driver and haven’t had a moments concern with roadholding or anything.

Comfort or an apparent softer ride might be what many want and not fitting XL tyres for higher loads.  There can be an advantage though which is the stronger / reinforced sidewalls that might just reduce the chance of sidewall damage on bad roads that you are after a softer ride across.  So location location location might apply. 

 

As to the compound difference of All Season / All Weathers / Cross Climate tyre tyres.

Different compounds, but also more tread depth when new, 7,8 maybe 9 mm. 

That does not mean the sidewall compound is softer / more compliant.

 

You can have Summer Tyres in the same profiles that are for Sportycars /drivers, supposedly, or wet weather and as all cars including SUV's or Cross over vehicles come OE from VW Group, ECO tyres, as in less rolling resistant, or actually less grip / friction / traction.   As with tyres at an Eco pressure.

Edited 30 January, 20233 yr by toot

2 hours ago, toot said:

Comfort or an apparent softer ride might be what many want and not fitting XL tyres for higher loads.  There can be an advantage though which is the stronger / reinforced sidewalls that might just reduce the chance of sidewall damage on bad roads that you are after a softer ride across.  So location location location might apply. 

 

As to the compound difference of All Season / All Weathers / Cross Climate tyre tyres.

Different compounds, but also more tread depth when new, 7,8 maybe 9 mm. 

That does not mean the sidewall compound is softer / more compliant.

 

You can have Summer Tyres in the same profiles that are for Sportycars /drivers, supposedly, or wet weather and as all cars including SUV's or Cross over vehicles come OE from VW Group, ECO tyres, as in less rolling resistant, or actually less grip / friction / traction.   As with tyres at an Eco pressure.

You are probably right about compounds but it is generally accepted that All Season tyres provide a slightly ‘softer’ ride than summer tyres. A quick look around motoring web sites confirms this but how much difference it makes is questionable. All I can say is that the Michelin Crossclimate definitely give a softer ride than previous summer tyres, whether that is down to the fact they are newer with more tread than the older summer tyres is an unknown!

So there are CrossClimate, CrossClimate +, CrossClimate SUV and CrossClimate 2.   Then different sizes have different tread when new.   It all matters when talking about comfort and comparing to tyre types of the same size.    Near the tread limit for a tyres wear might not be that that comfortable anymore or much good in adverse road conditions.   Possibly still preferable to a comfy summer tyre though. 

In my experience all season tyres are more comfortable than summer tyres. That seems to be the general experience of most motoring press and drivers I know.

That generally can be true when you swap like for like sizes and speed / load rating.  As the OE tyres are more based to being ECO.