17" Alloy

[lucky_taz]

Just found a crack in one of the 17" alloys on a 2014 1.6TDI Rapid Spaceback and trying to find a replacement but can't seem to find what I am looking for. Does anyone know if these are OEM or after market wheels and any info that lmay help to find one.

[vwman55]

Genuine Skoda wheel, "Ray", part number 5JA601025D FL8 per Catcar. Can't see any on Ebay at the moment but if you search on the internet you'll find one. Might cost you though! 

[Ootohere]

There are 4 'Gigaro alloys' for sale in the Wheels for sale on BRISKODA.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/514277-17-skoda-gigaros-x4-£300-ono

 

Just an idea.

you keep 1 of yours as a Full Size Spare and sell 2 as Full Size Spares. 

 

 

Edited 29 July, 2023 by toot

[lucky_taz]

3 hours ago, vwman55 said:

Genuine Skoda wheel, "Ray", part number 5JA601025D FL8 per Catcar. Can't see any on Ebay at the moment but if you search on the internet you'll find one. Might cost you though! 

Thank you. I ended up having to change the front discs and pads today and checked the inside of the rim and on the back of each spoke is various numbers for white, bright, silver etc and then 5J0601025T Rim. One set of 4 on Ebay but for big money. Typically 4 new tyres were being put on the car yesterdy and it just had to be the last one that was found to have a cracked alloy.

[Carlston]

1 hour ago, lucky_taz said:

I ended up having to change the front discs and pads today and checked the inside of the rim and on the back of each spoke is various numbers for white, bright, silver etc and then 5J0601025T Rim.

 

Your 205/40R17 tyre size is too small for the Rapid and Fabia MK2. The standard 215/40R17 would have provided a little more rim protection from potholes and kerbing damage.

 

5J0601025T is a Fabia MK2 rim with a 7Jx17 ET41 specification.

 

The Rapid uses a 7Jx17 ET46 rim, which is the same as the Fabia MK3 uses.

 

The Rapid and Fabia MK3 use a 215/40R17, whereas the Fabia MK2 uses a 205/40R17.

 

7Jx17 ET46 5/100 57.1 alloy rim (for Rapid and Fabia MK3) (uses 215/40R17)

https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/cs_CZ/alu-kolo-torino-17-fabia-iii-rapid/p/5JA071497AAJX2

 

Maybe consider 205/45R17 fitted to a 6.5Jx17 ET40 rim from the Scala/Kamiq as that would provide a little more rim protection from potholes than 215/40R17 due to the slightly higher sidewalls.

 

Edited 29 July, 2023 by Carlston

[lucky_taz]

Thanks Carlston, very informative.

It sounds like there are not the original wheels on the car then (we purchased it Aug 2022) and someone has fitted these on.
Yes, the 205/40/17 really didn't look right on the wheels and seemed too narrow with them leaving the rim somewhat exposed. I thought something wasn't quite right when the tyre pressure chart in the fuel cap did not give this size tyre as an option and was 215/4/17.

It was also not a pleasant experience if you hit any defect in the road, this to me is supposed to be a family car and not a boy racer, I'm far too old for that now lol

After chacking clearance etc, we did actually fit a larger sidewall tyre for comfort, protection etc and went for a 215/50/17, so we'll do a few checks with roadside speed boards and gps just to see roughly where we are at with actual speed compared to the speedo. So far it is a lot nicer to drive and will probably have to get the cracked alloy repaired if I can't find a suitable replacement quickly without having to buy a new set of alloys.

[Carlston]

215/50R17 is a massive 7.3% bigger than the standard 185/60R15 tyre size.

 

I would be surprised it that size didn't rub on full lock, or when the suspension fully compresses.

 

More than about a 1.5% to 2% increase in outside diameter compared to the standard tyre sizes, can start to make the car feel too highly geared.

 

It's rare for the speedo to not over-read when using more than a 5% increase in outside diameter. Often the speedo will start to over-read with a smaller increase than 5%.

 

17" tyres tend to be a lot more expensive than 15" tyres.

 

For excellent comfort and a cheap tyre size, perhaps look at 185/65R15 or even 195/60R15. With the standard 6Jx15 ET38 5/100 57.1 rims 195/60R15 would probably be my choice as it's a good fit on the 6J rim width, and only increases the gearing by 2.0% compared to the standard 185/60R15 tyre size.

 

There's a good choice of secondhand alloy rims with the standard 6Jx15 ET38 5/100 57.1 rim size, because the Golf MK4 and the various clones used this size around the years 1998-2003. However, the Golf MK4 used a bigger outside diameter 195/65R15 tyre size.

 

Outside diameter of tyres

185/60R15 603mm

185/65R15 621.5mm (+3.1% compared to 185/60R15)

195/60R15 615mm (+2.0% compared to 185/60R15)

195/50R16 601.4mm

195/55R16 620.9mm (+3.0% compared to 185/60R15)

205/45R17 616.3mm (+2.2% compared to 185/60R15)

215/40R17 603.8mm

215/50R17 646.8mm (+7.3% compared to 185/60R15)

 

Examples of 185/65R15 and 195/60R15 all-season tyres, which could be fitted to the standard 6Jx15 ET38 rim size. Notice how much cheaper they are than the 17" tyre sizes.

 

Vredestein Quatrac 6 185/65R15 88H (£57.05+shipping)

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m138b0s7990p202115/Vredestein_Tyres_All_Season_Car_Vredestein_Quatrac_6_185_65_R15_88H_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_C_Wet_Grip%3A_B_NoiseClass%3A_B_Noise%3A_70dB

 

Vredestrein Quatrac 6 195/60R15 88H (£62.90+shipping)

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m138b0s7993p202144/Vredestein_Tyres_All_Season_Car_Vredestein_Quatrac_6_195_60_R15_88H_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_C_Wet_Grip%3A_B_NoiseClass%3A_B_Noise%3A_70dB

 

Examples of 195/50R16 and 195/55R16 all-season tyres, which could be fitted to a 6Jx16 ET35 5/100 57.1 rim from the Scala/Kamiq.

 

Vredestein Quatrac 6 195/50R16 88V XL (£87.60+shipping)

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m139b0s8824p202112/Vredestein_Tyres_All_Season_Car_Vredestein_Quatrac_6_195_50_R16_88V_XL_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_C_Wet_Grip%3A_B_NoiseClass%3A_B_Noise%3A_70dB

 

Vredestein Quatrac 6 195/55R16 87H (£79.55+shipping)

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m139b0s7952p202114/Vredestein_Tyres_All_Season_Car_Vredestein_Quatrac_6_195_55_R16_87H_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_C_Wet_Grip%3A_B_NoiseClass%3A_B_Noise%3A_70dB

 

Examples of 205/45R17 and 215/40R17 all-season tyres.

 

Continental AllSeasonContact 205/45R17 88V XL (£116.80+shipping)

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m140b0s7953p165266/Continental_Tyres_All_Season_Car_Continental_ContiAllSeasonContact_Continental_Conti_All_Season_Contact_205_45_R17_88V_XL_FR_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_C_Wet_Grip%3A_B_NoiseClass%3A_B_Noise%3A_72dB

 

Continental AllSeasonContact 215/40R17 87V XL (£130.20+shipping)

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m140b0s8783p188385/Continental_Tyres_All_Season_Car_Continental_ContiAllSeasonContact_Continental_Conti_All_Season_Contact_215_40_R17_87V_XL_FR_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_C_Wet_Grip%3A_B_NoiseClass%3A_B_Noise%3A_72dB

 

Alcar 6664 6Jx16 ET35 5/100 57.1 steel rim (from Scala/Kamiq) (actual photo of rim, ie. not generic)

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rims/details?vehicleId=1206402849694839908&rimCode=ALCAR6664

 

Wheel trim for 6Jx16 ET35 5/100 57.1 steel rim (from Scala/Kamiq) (about £49 for a set of four)

https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/cs_CZ/poklice-lhoste-16/p/658071456A

 

6Jx16 ET35 5/100 57.1 alloy rim (from Scala/Kamiq) (about £149 each)

https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/cs_CZ/alu-kolo-nanuq-16-scala-kamiq/p/654071496B+8Z8

 

Edited 30 July, 2023 by Carlston

[lucky_taz]

Thank you very much for all the time and effort you have spent compiling information for me Carlston, certainly some future options to be thought about.

The car is not our main one for long and loaded journeys, but for a test, four adults and not the smoothest of roads with a good dip compression was used to double check any fouling issues and no visible scuffs were seen in the arches or any representative noise. But something that we will certainly keep a check on and deal with if necessary.

[DunDunFather]

@lucky_taz I have a set of 17" Ray alloys for sale as I upgraded to 18s if you're interested? LINK

[lucky_taz]

Thanks for the link, got the cracked one repaired and hopefully all stays good with it.