Summary points posted somewhere else:

 

Standard range 346 miles (not epa rated yet)

Long range 423 miles (not epa rated yet)

improved suspension

8% efficiency improvement

30% improvement to reduced road / ambient noise

rear screen like model S plaid

ventilated front seats

removed stalks

traditional horn

more responsive and brighter screen

improved bluetooth and wifi

upgraded ventilation / AC system (more controls)

17 speakers, instead of 14 like prior model

about the same price

 

Text format:  https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-tesla-model-3-brings-restyle-improved-cabin-more-range

 

Good refresh, great they've managed to get more efficiency (thus range) out of the platform. Ventilated seats and rear screen are nice additions. Personally not sure about removal of stalks for driving in roundabouts.

 

Edited 1 September, 20232 yr by wyx087

Is this the 'Highland' model? I thought that will come with the new battery tech from CATL to give 10% improvement in energy density, per the Electric Viking?
 

 

It is the codename Highland facelift.

 

Ultimately, any information before today will be rumours. I think the media embargo lifts today. I read somewhere that CarWow and Fully Charged show will have a driving video tomorrow.

1 hour ago, wyx087 said:

 

Summary points posted somewhere else:

 

Standard range 346 miles (not epa rated yet)

Long range 423 miles (not epa rated yet)

improved suspension

8% efficiency improvement

30% improvement to reduced road / ambient noise

rear screen like model S plaid

ventilated front seats

removed stalks

traditional horn

more responsive and brighter screen

improved bluetooth and wifi

upgraded ventilation / AC system (more controls)

17 speakers, instead of 14 like prior model

about the same price

 

Text format:  https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-tesla-model-3-brings-restyle-improved-cabin-more-range

 

Good refresh, great they've managed to get more efficiency (thus range) out of the platform. Ventilated seats and rear screen are nice additions. Personally not sure about removal of stalks for driving in roundabouts.

 

 

More than a facelift.

 

Fundamental revision of over 20 key elements.

 

Some press saying an actual lowering of level of equipment presumably to get a lower entry price  (key in the UK that the price is below the £40k luxury tax of course).

 

Quantum leap in Autonomous driving ability, cameras, computing power.  Probably never be enough for some, well at least until the stats prove Autonomous is far safer than person driving. Bit like EV fires versus ICE fires.  Some just will use the tiniest scrap of a story to discount the new tech despite the evidence.

 

 

CarWow video said same computer underneath, so presumably HW4 we've seen in US MY with same Ryzen CPU as HW3 cars. Price is currently said to be same as out going model, but I'm sure it'll go down next few years to duck under £40k mark.

 

There is rumour that there will be a front bumper camera to help with parking. But I can't see anything in the video.

 

Apart from removal of stalks, it doesn't feel like lowering of in-car equipment. Better noise isolation and suspension upgrade, plus ventilated seats, should make the car feel more premium than existing cars.

 

You can configure the new car now on their Australia configurator. Estimated delivery is Q1 2024, so I think UK will be similar.

https://www.tesla.com/en_AU/model3/design#overview

 

Edited 1 September, 20232 yr by wyx087

2 hours ago, wyx087 said:

CarWow video said same computer underneath, so presumably HW4 we've seen in US MY with same Ryzen CPU as HW3 cars. Price is currently said to be same as out going model, but I'm sure it'll go down next few years to duck under £40k mark.

There is rumour that there will be a front bumper camera to help with parking. But I can't see anything in the video.

Apart from removal of stalks, it doesn't feel like lowering of in-car equipment. Better noise isolation and suspension upgrade, plus ventilated seats, should make the car feel more premium than existing cars.

You can configure the new car now on their Australia configurator. Estimated delivery is Q1 2024, so I think UK will be similar.

https://www.tesla.com/en_AU/model3/design#overview

 

 

The cameras are going from the original 1M pixel camera to now 5M pixel cameras and the data processing, following Moore's law is considerable.

Of course late ie 2022 Model 3 have much more powerful chip sets than the first 2017 Models 3s.

 

From the rumours circulating it is the battery pack chemistry, density etc that to me is going to be the key change but it is nice to see the aero changes which has generally made the TESLAs standout as the motorway car of choice compared to other EVs and well done for TESLA for extending that advantage even further.

 

Be interesting to see how battery supplier CATL, and BYD too, cosy up to other car companies which will help them close the widening gap with TESLA.  There is already concern that they is too much battery manufacturing capacity in the world but there is plenty of places, like mega pack and home battery systems these batteries can go as well as in to EVs.

 

Too much battery manufacturing capacity? 🤯 it's no where near enough! May be enough to support current dip in EV demand, but, as you said, there's many other applications.

 

Model 3 will be the new wind-knife, with battery capacity to make it a useful long distance machine.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, wyx087 said:

Too much battery manufacturing capacity? 🤯 it's no where near enough! May be enough to support current dip in EV demand, but, as you said, there's many other applications.

 

Model 3 will be the new wind-knife, with battery capacity to make it a useful long distance machine.

 

 

Chinese battery firms on slow running and multiple battery plants planned all over Europe, one here is Somerset and several, even two massive one planned by the Chinese in US to meet US origin rules and keep those EV grants, like the ones we use to get in the UK but do not any more hence the lagging UK car industry and being behind on the target to net zero.  

 

 

 

 

On 01/09/2023 at 14:43, wyx087 said:

Too much battery manufacturing capacity? 🤯 it's no where near enough! May be enough to support current dip in EV demand, but, as you said, there's many other applications.

 

Model 3 will be the new wind-knife, with battery capacity to make it a useful long distance machine.

Bloody hell those things have a fully rear end.

 

I saw a Lynk & Co 01 the other day. Not too bad looks wise but Chinese I believe.

 

 

The manual is available online if anyone's interested:

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_eu/

 

I had a quick flick through.

The PRND override physical buttons are on the roof and requires pressing 2 scroll wheels to enable. They really don't want you to use physical buttons. 🤣

There is no front bumper camera.

There's a new active hood, I don't remember seeing this page when reading MY manual.

UK Configurator is now online: 

https://www.tesla.com/en_gb/model3/design#overview

 

Under £40k for RWD, apart from battery and motor config difference, I can't find any other difference between trim levels. 

If they had not removed wiper /indicator stalks I might have considered one. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

M3 LR Highland achieved 4.5 mi/kWh.

Merc EQC said to average 2.4 mi/kWh in the drive back.

I'd estimate my MY LR would average 3.5 - 4 mi/kWh. 9c is not that cold, I was getting around 270 Wh/mi (close to 4 mi/kWh) yesterday's commute at ~10c.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hum..... which one would you choose? 

 

The speaker downgrade is not too bad, everything else interior seems like the same. Performance of RWD is probably similar to LR in chill mode. RWD already got bags of range. It's also LFP battery means charge to 100% every day. 

 

£10k is huge price gap. I'd choose the standard RWD. I'd have chosen the standard RWD MY if the price difference was that big. 

14 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

Hum..... which one would you choose? 

 

The speaker downgrade is not too bad, everything else interior seems like the same. Performance of RWD is probably similar to LR in chill mode. RWD already got bags of range. It's also LFP battery means charge to 100% every day. 

 

£10k is huge price gap. I'd choose the standard RWD. I'd have chosen the standard RWD MY if the price difference was that big. 

 

No luxury VED on the RWD models as RRP is less than 40k.

 

Tough choice though Astra e or model 3 Highland RWD, not.

 

I am due to drive the Scenic next weekend at an open day but that is 41k, 87 kWh battery though.

 

Want to avoid luxury VED as I always plan to give uk government as little tax as possible.

 

I know he has all the scores on the doors but with stuff i disagree.

 

A wet road when it is not raining but has been like a cold road might not and often does not use more fuel in an ICE or use more energy from a BEV.

 

Less grip / traction is basically less friction.   Also warmed up ICE vehicles especially a turbo likes cooler denser air.  Maybe tiny affects and Lights, wipers etc means poorer efficiency.

 

As to rear wheel drive and the improved feeling of steering. Well maybe sometime, as long as the back does not squat and the front goes light.

Tesla may not.

 

0-62 mph times.  Really, 2 seconds quicker up someones back end, and do they really do it when nobody to be impressed?

 

Accelerating out of a roundabout.  I wish more with Tesla or any RWD car would. 

Funnily any i see are usually dilly dallying.    

Up you jacksy though if they want to show you they Can take you like a king, then let them go they are Road Kings stopping you get on up the road and on your way. 

 

Must be a 'Counting the miles thing'.  

Edited 13 February, 20242 yr by Rooted

The only Tesla Ive been in a friend demonstrated the acceleration (Dual motor) for about 3 seconds (then ran out of road)

 

I felt physically sick, a feeling of intense nausea that took a good hour to get over. I cannot see the point and I can see this could be very dangerous in the wrong hands. I'm surprised that insurance is affordable.

 

I did not like the minimalist interior at all, the fake wood trim reminded me of the stick on vinyl wood trim on my base 1976 Polo.

4 hours ago, lol-lol said:

No luxury VED on the RWD models as RRP is less than 40k.

 

Tough choice though Astra e or model 3 Highland RWD, not.

 

I am due to drive the Scenic next weekend at an open day but that is 41k, 87 kWh battery though.

 

Want to avoid luxury VED as I always plan to give uk government as little tax as possible.

Luxury VED for EV comes in next April. All BEV registered before then, regardless of price, will only need to pay regular price from 2025. 

 

Got until March 2025 to buy a EV above £40k   

Or avoid £40k+ list price second hand cars from 2025.