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Octavia Mk II 1.8 TSI petrol longevity

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Hi this is my first post here.

 

I'm thinking about buying a used 1.8 TSI petrol.  It was made in 2011 and has done over 120k miles  Is it possible to gauge how many miles I will get out of it?  Is it realistic to expect to get an extra 40k-50k miles, over the next 4-5 years?

 

It has full service history and I will check if the cambelt and water pump have been changed.

 

I'm aware of the issues listed on 1.8TSI and 2.0TSI engine failures, but are there any other issues that tend to crop-up with Octavia II 1.8 TSI petrols of that age and mileage.

Welcome. 

If they are they are minor compared to the engines, unless a 1.8 TSI with a DQ200 DSG so that needs checking out.

 

Re service history, 

Is the point of the engine failures not that it is a Timing Chain. so if there is a cam belt question why....

 

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What history is there with the car regarding the engine, rebuild or what ever will matter.   & get someone that knows about cars to check the stuff like, brakes, tyres, suspension and the stuff that will cost you to fix if needing doing

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The seller is a used car dealer, so not the previous owner.  BTW I'm based in the UK and as far as I'm aware, the car is not an import.

I know that it is an automatic but how would the seller know if it has a DQ200 DSG gearbox?

 

15 minutes ago, toot said:

Is the point of the engine failures not that it is a Timing Chain. so if there is a cam belt question why....

Sorry I wasn't sure if they have a timing chain or cambelt.

It will be a DQ200 DSG because that is what they have if 2 pedals.

It should have had recall action '34F7' done sometime after 2014, but matters not that was a long time ago. 

 

If you are checking Service Histories you need to know what that should be. 

 

The Car trader took it in, they have some clue if OK or not, but if not they are not telling you.

 

So some record would be nice. When spark pugs changed, look at the air filter is it fresh.

Do the 4 tyres match or match as in 2 pairs.  Is there a spare, Is the windscreen un chipped. 

 

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Does the MOT History look OK, any advisories this time or last, re-occurring.

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Do you know how to look at the MOT,s online with the Registration Number?

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Thanks for the tips.

 

Most recent MOT history include suspension pin worn but not excessive play, side repeater light and rear position lamp need replacing.

Have you seen the sticky on 1.8 / 2.0tsi engine failures. This is the car you are looking at. Two things 1. Timing chain tensioner / timing chain stretch leading to catastrophic failure 2. Piston scraper ring clogging leading to excessive oil usage and eventual failure. Oh and 3. is the dq200 @toot has referred to in addition to normal areas of attention on a 100k 12 yr old car. The first 2. Items are very hard to predict. 

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I'm also considering a manual 2.0 vRS TFSI (engine code CCZA) (2011).

 

Timing belt will need to be replaced (as it has not been done).  I will also get the timing chain tensioner and water pump changed at the same time.  Is there anything else that I should consider getting replaced at the same time as the timing belt?

 

I've seen elsewhere on this forum that it would be worth getting the engine mounts looked at, and if necessary replaced.

 

Is there anything else specific to this model that I should be aware of?

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The 2.0 vRS TFSI has done 120k miles.

I had a 2011 vrs mk2fl. They are the same ea888 gen 2 design as the 1.8 with some minor differences and variable valve timing. 

 

Neither are belt driven, except maybe the water pump.  All main timing is via chain and chain tensioner and rails. Chains are used for oil pump drive and balance shafts as well.

 

If there is no record or evidence of ever having been replaced, despite "good for life" and no interval skoda comments, that life may not be very long in your ownership!. The parts are subject to multiple revisions.

 

I don't know why, but anecdotally  the 1.8 seemed to report more cases of severe oil usage but both are susceptible aa they're the same design.

 

The fix would not be economic of cars of this type / age now.   When I sold mine at about 75k mile / 10 years it was running well. No excessive oil but not all demonstrate that.  A compression test often won't show issues until the problem advances and becomes terminal. Hence it can catch a lot of people out.

 

Only real way to know is to monitor or even better measure oil usage over decent fixed distance, say 1000km plus. You'll therefore likely be relying on your 30 day return warranty. Not many traders do 1000km test drives! Make sure they're a reputable trader. 

 

In dsg the 2.0 vrs tsi used the dq250, so a more reliable box than the dq200 but requires filter and oil changes. I realise you've said the one you are looking,at is manual. Clutch life would be one key question there.

 

Beyond that they are platform / age service life issues really that should be inspected with almost any used car purchase.  Plenty of other platform posts on mk2 / mk2fl purchase things to check. But the engine is a biggy.   

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