Potential issue of a 2012 Yeti 1.2 TSI with DSG

[WKH]

Dear all,

 

Just join the forum and hope to tap into the community knowledge base in order to shed some light on a baffling issue with my 2012 Yeti (registered and driven in Austria).

 

I'm a second owner of the Yeti since 2018 and have had 60k trouble-free KM with it so far (the car is currently at 90k KM). Starting about 2 months ago I started to notice a very subtle change in how the car behave at highway speeds (the majority of my driving is in the city under 50km/h when the car is behaving completely normal). When I accelerate in high gears (D6 or D7), for example trying to merge into highway traffics from an on-ramp, I would feel a subtle vibration through the gas padle and steering wheel. The vibration feels almost like there are pebbles stuck in the tyres ("stumps" or clicking at regular intervals depending on the speed the car is travelling in). It most often occur, probably more linked to my driving style than anything else, at around 2-2.5k RPM.

 

This has happened when I still have the summer wheels/tyres on and right before the mandatory switch to winter wheels/tyres on the 1st of November. My first thought was that the summer wheels may have been unbalanced so I will reserve judgement until I made the swap. Last weekend was the first time I took a long, highway drive since the wheel swap and the symptoms are still there, if not worse. In fact, I've experience 3 occasions in which the DSG actually briefly sliped out of gear (from D7 to D on the Maxidot display) during the trip on the highway. However, these occasions does not always happen when I was accelerating so may not have been linked.

 

The car has been served regularly by myself with annual oil change or every 10-11k KM. I have also just changed the plugs, wires and ignition coil this summer as the 1.2 TSI seems to wear them down every 30-40k KM (typical symptom which triggered the last replacement was hesitation when accelerate at high gear, which felt very much like clutch slipping; however, that was completely different to the current symptom/issue).

 

I am not sure what I should do next. The latest symptom, i.e., slipping out of gear, seems to point the issue to the DSG, but I cannot rule out that there are other engine control issues which could have triggered the weird DSG behavior. The rational next step is to send the car to the local Skoda dealer to diagnose, but I fear that I may not be able to replicate the problem with them (I've scanned the car using OBD 11 and there was no fault stored). The skiing season is coming and I'd hate to have my family stuck on the mountain road when the DSG (or something else) gives up...

 

Many thanks in advance for any advice/help!

 

Kai

[Ootohere]

Welcome.

Best have an Automatic Gearbox Specialist check out the DQ200 DSG as it has not been serviced and does not get serviced.

 

Possibly replacement clutch pack time.    (Not by a main dealership, if you put it into them they might even farm out the job.)

(There can also be an issue with the selector forks. a less expensive fix.)

See the Pinned thread at the top of the Fabia mk2 section on DSG,s and look at the last pages. 

 

 

(Not relevant, but It might have had the Recall Action since 2014 that was an Oil Chang from Synthetic Oil to mineral & a software update.

that was '34F7' on 2009-2012 DQ200's bit just to ones built before the summer shut down.)

Sticker in the Spare Tyre well if done.

Edited 29 November, 2023 by Rooted

[WKH]

Hi Rooted,

 

Thanks for the information. It is pretty much aligned with what I've learnt the past few days combing the internet for anything related to my Yeti's symptom. I remember the DQ200 oil recall action but I don't think it applies to European Yeti (I remember that I did an online VIN check using a Skoda link and it yielded no recall action).

 

I would also like to not jump to the conclusion of a faulty DSG. Perhaps what I should do is to get on the highway at a quiet hour, accelerate at high gear, e.g., D6 or D7, to replicate the vibration then quickly shift into neutral to see if it goes away. This could be a sure-fire way to isolate it to DSG. However, I am not sure if I will do any damage to the gearbox if I do this, i.e., shifting from D to N at 80-100km/h...

 

If it does turn out to be the DSG, i would probably have to ask an Austrian VW/Skoda owner forum to see whether there are DSG specialists in my area (Graz).

 

Thanks again for the support.

 

Kai

 

 

 

 

[Ootohere]

You are right the World Wide / Global recall did not apply to Europe / EU,  but then VW Group had to start a Service Campaign in the UK in02014 on the 2009-2012 DQ200,s because they are little cheats and thought they could get away with things.  

(Europe can have exactly the same climatic conditions as New Zealand had and the DQ200,s were built in Europe not just in China.

In China and other regions they had to put a 10 year / 100,000 mile warranty on them.) 

 

The 2012 cars late 2012 were not part of 34F7 the first Workshop action, or 34H5 on the 2013 to 2015 DQ200,s, just a service campaign.

But that was and is an issue because many of those had premature failures.

 

In Australia there are 3 recalls covering the DQ200,s from 2009-2016.

The 3rd one because so many were missed in the first 2 Recalls that is an issue when Australia had the Lemon Laws, 

 

 

Edited 30 November, 2023 by Rooted

[WKH]

Hi Rooted,

 

That's very enlightening. Thank you for the info and I'd certainly bring this up if and when I take the car to the dealer.

 

Still very much want to test out the idea about shifting into neutral at highway speed to pin point it to DSG. Do you think that is a good idea or would I likely damage the DSG further?

 

Cheers!

 

Kai

[Ootohere]

If all is well with the engine and the brakes i would not mess about too much withe the DSG and chance losing Drive.

 

It should be going up the gears, D1, D2, D3 etc,  and the same in S, S1, S2 etc, and coming down the gears.

Do not try to many accelerations or manual down shifts.

Best have a Auto Specialist drive it, as long as they are familiar with DQ200.s.

[WKH]

Thanks for the suggestion. Am hitting the German-speaking Skoda forum now for recommendation of a specialist locally...