After a little key accident and an annoying dead lock that could not be opened by 3 different door catches....  I need to replace my window. 

 

On the picture below the last number 9 is that important? What does it mean?

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1px_BzhIo_MjD6fDxV_C_BUIlDNQh9NxO/view?usp=drivesdk

 

As I have found glass on ebay with the number 5 at the end, and wondered if it was compatible. 

 

 

Cant answer your question but I hope that you dont mind if I ask one myself.

 

Did breaking the window actually assist you in opening the door/getting in the car or was it collateral damage from replacing the latch?

 

If the former how did you get the door or any door open?

 

Regarding the number 9, does your other window have a different number or any number come to that? Could it be a code for semi tinted glass?

 

 

My keys were left inside and I must have accidentally pressed the lock button somehow. When shutting the door I was locked out. I tried wedging the door open and using a long rod to open the doors...but the deadlock was engaged - so pulling handle did nothing.... 

 

Once I had my keys no issue at all - apart from needing to replace glass... 

23 minutes ago, J.R. said:

Cant answer your question but I hope that you dont mind if I ask one myself.

 

Did breaking the window actually assist you in opening the door/getting in the car or was it collateral damage from replacing the latch?

 

If the former how did you get the door or any door open?

 

Regarding the number 9, does your other window have a different number or any number come to that? Could it be a code for semi tinted glass?

 

 

 

Could you describe your problem please? 

 

 

The problem was almost certainly a failure of the door locked microswitch, you un(dead)locked the door with the keyfob, opened the door which the vehicle did not recognise, put the keys inside even in the ignition switch, stepped out and closed the door to get something, the body control module not having been informed that the door had been opened then deadlocked the car again after the time delay locking the keys inside.

 

I made up the scenario details but I bet it was something like that, you are not alone if that is any consolation.

8 minutes ago, J.R. said:

The problem was almost certainly a failure of the door locked microswitch, you un(dead)locked the door with the keyfob, opened the door which the vehicle did not recognise, put the keys inside even in the ignition switch, stepped out and closed the door to get something, the body control module not having been informed that the door had been opened then deadlocked the car again after the time delay locking the keys inside.

 

I made up the scenario details but I bet it was something like that, you are not alone if that is any consolation.

Oh I misunderstood I thought you had a problem you needed resolving... lol. 

 

Now I just need to learn how to code keys on vcds so to lessen the chance of breaking a window in future.... 

Answer:

 

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/technical-stuff/175069-automotive-window-glass-codes.html

 

According to this post it's the year of manufacture... (label 7)

16 hours ago, Davidmb said:

My keys were left inside and I must have accidentally pressed the lock button somehow. When shutting the door I was locked out

 

If you unlock the doors and then just do nothing (such as putting the key in the ignition or better still, turning it) the doors will deadlock automatically after about 10 minutes. Same happens if you only open a door with a failed microswitch (no door open indication on the display). Basically that is what JR said. The open door with the microswitch problem will lock when you close the door.

 

It doesn't need to be a failed microswitch, just the signal not getting through: for example a broken wire in the body to door flexible conduit.

7 minutes ago, pikpilot said:

It doesn't need to be a failed microswitch, just the signal not getting through: for example a broken wire in the body to door flexible conduit.

Thanks for insight...

 

Broken wires on flexi a very common problem on cars this age. Mine included (especially when relying on solder versus buying a new loom segment...)

 

A worst problem still is when the latch seizes shut or cable breaks and then I guess it's time for the grinder and a new door. 

 

Looking into key coding now. 

Good point re the door loop wiring, I decided that the microswitch must be wired to the lock module and the comms to the body control module would be via the twisted pair canbus (or Linbus?) wiring and that a fault there would manifest itself with several other door and window related problems.

When you get to install the new window glass, you will see that the glass is held in place by two plastic parts, one inside the other that go through a hole in the glass. When your glass was broken the plastic parts probably ended up in the bottom of the door.

For once this proceess is described well (with photos) in the Haynes manual.

10 minutes ago, pikpilot said:

When you get to install the new window glass, you will see that the glass is held in place by two plastic parts, one inside the other that go through a hole in the glass. When your glass was broken the plastic parts probably ended up in the bottom of the door.

For once this proceess is described well (with photos) in the Haynes manual.

 

Thank you so much just ordered the window from a local scrap yard. Waiting on this and a steering position sensor. Christmas Post.... 

 

In time being as I have to get to work fasioned this with perspex... 

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qFHWs2IsZnNGLLUNJMBvFUaNiCYUD6uV/view?usp=drivesdk

 

 

Update to this. Fitted window now. On reflection I should have bought new grommets as reusing old brittle ones made install a total pain (one was ok but the other I got like 75% in and decided that was enough...)

 

Also buy the right rivets from Skoda as they are huge and not standard. 

 

The official manual was pants....

 

I recommend taking speaker out so you can hold the grommets at back when pushing in the insert. Skinny hands will help the far one.

 

Use a few bolts or rivlets to secure panel rather than fitting rivets completely back as easy to push grommets into door recess and then have to start again at the beginning... 

 

Hope this helps anyone stupid enough to lock keys in car or not to have glass insurance....