Hi all,

 

I have a Skoda Superb MkIII 2019 (had it since new) and it has the following code on the wheels: 3V0601025AG / JX2 / Schwarz

What's confusing is the it says 'Schwarz' (black) and elsewhere I've read this code indicates 'Gloss Black' wheels - only they're not, they're very definitely silver (not even anthracite), no black on them anywhere.

 

Since I need to replace one of them, other than a precise matching code, which other codes are 'the same' ?
I've seen 3V0601025F /8Z8  and 3V0601025 AE which both look (as far as internet pics allow) the same, along with after-market code 3V0071498E / 8Z8 which also looks the same, all look about the same silver colour.

 

Can anyone enlighten me?

Thanks in advance

 

Hi,

3V0601025 is the generic code for Superb Mk3 wheels.

The last 2 letters correspond to wheel model, size and color though paint code or finish is reminded aside with another 3 letter code.

 

For a MY19, 3V0601025AG should be 18" Zenith rims in JX2 Glossy black.

For the same 18" Zenith rims, 2 other codes exist indeed:

 

- 3V0601025F with 8Z8 brillant silver paint code

- 3V0601025AE with HZ9 plantinum finish (or anthracite grey)

 

If you look at the back of your wheels, you'll find these 3 codes molded on spokes. Letter codes is just a question on how they're painted or finished (for a given model). 

 

Edited 8 July, 20241 yr by Bap33

Just a tip if you are buying a new wheel...

 

If you buy a genuine wheel starting with 3V0601025 it is classed as a normal car part.

 

Whereas if you buy a 3V0071498 wheel this is from the optional extras catalog and the wheel is the exact same - albeit with sometimes a 40% price reduction.

 

If you google the skoda catalog for accessories for this age youll find a PDF with all the wheels - find yours on there instead of the original code.

On 07/07/2024 at 17:06, Tonnch said:

I have a Skoda Superb MkIII 2019 (had it since new) and it has the following code on the wheels: 3V0601025AG / JX2 / Schwarz

What's confusing is the it says 'Schwarz' (black) and elsewhere I've read this code indicates 'Gloss Black' wheels - only they're not, they're very definitely silver (not even anthracite), no black on them anywhere.

 

Since I need to replace one of them, other than a precise matching code, which other codes are 'the same' ?
I've seen 3V0601025F /8Z8  and 3V0601025 AE which both look (as far as internet pics allow) the same, along with after-market code 3V0071498E / 8Z8 which also looks the same, all look about the same silver colour.

 

3V0071498E 8Z8 is not in the latest Skoda accessories catalogue, and no longer appears to be available.

 

If you do find one new, expect it to be much more expensive than when they were readily available.

 

The problem with the 235/45R18 8Jx18 ET44 5/112 57.1 wheels is that the tyre's sidewalls don't bulge out much...so the rims are very vulnerable to kerbing damage.

 

The actual width of the inflated 235/45R18 fitted to an 8J rim is about 236mm, and the actual width of the 8J rim is about 227.2mm...so the tyre's sidewalls only bulge out about 4.4mm each side, and that just isn't enough to offer the rims anything like good protection from kerbing damage.

 

Here are two tyre and rim combinations that offer a lot of rim protection for the Superb MK3. Note that 215/55R17 is normally fitted to either a 6.5J or 7J rim on the Superb MK3, but fitting a 215/55R17 to the 0.5" wider 7J rim will result in the tyre's sidewalls only bulging out about 12.1mm each side, ie. quite a bit less than 15mm. Hence, for lots of rim protection from kerbing damage a 215/55R17 shouldn't be fitted to a rim wider than 6.5J

 

Some tyre and rim combinations for the Superb MK3 with lots of sidewall bulge (ie. more than 15mm each side...and therefore lots of protection from kerbing damage)

215/60R16 fitted to 6.5J rim 15.95mm

215/55R17 fitted to 6.5J rim 15.45mm

 

Here's an example of a tyre and rim in size 215/55R17 6.5Jx17 ET41 5/112 57.1

 

Continental AllSeasonContact 2 215/55R17 94V (Euro label B B 70dB)

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m140b0s8825p220589/Continental_Tyres_All_Season_Car_Continental_Conti_All_Season_Contact_2_215_55_R17_94V_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_B_Wet_Grip%3A_B_NoiseClass%3A_B_Noise%3A_70dB

 

6.5Jx17 ET41 5/112 57.1 alloy rim (for Superb MK3) (3V0071497 8Z8) (5789CZK is about £194.25)

https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/cs_CZ/alu-kolo-triton-17-superb-iii/p/3V0071497++8Z8

 

Edited 8 July, 20241 yr by Carlston

On 08/07/2024 at 01:05, Bap33 said:

Hi,

3V0601025 is the generic code for Superb Mk3 wheels.

The last 2 letters correspond to wheel model, size and color though paint code or finish is reminded aside with another 3 letter code.

 

For a MY19, 3V0601025AG should be 18" Zenith rims in JX2 Glossy black.

For the same 18" Zenith rims, 2 other codes exist indeed:

 

- 3V0601025F with 8Z8 brillant silver paint code

- 3V0601025AE with HZ9 plantinum finish (or anthracite grey)

 

If you look at the back of your wheels, you'll find these 3 codes molded on spokes. Letter codes is just a question on how they're painted or finished (for a given model). 

 

Hi,

Thanks for this, but I already understood that - what I'm saying is that the code on the wheels, on the back of a spoke, it is clearly embossed with 3V0601025AG / JX2 / Schwarz
But the wheels are silver.  Always have been, since brand new.

That's my original question - the wheels are marked as black (Schwarz) and have a part number people tell me is for black, but they are most definitely silver.
And that's why I'm confused!

I have since seen a couple of (too knackered for me) wheels online with the same code that are also silver, not black.

Because everyone says the part number on my not-black wheels is for black wheels, I am unclear on what part number to go looking for, original or after-market - as I really don't want to get a black one!

Can anyone shed any light on this?

Thanks

Edited 12 July, 20241 yr by Tonnch

looking on rrr, i see the other way around - https://rrr.lt/en/used-part/cmp4277-3v0601025f-skoda-superb-b8-3v-r18-alloy-rim?_gl=1*1az7lhc*_up*MQ..*_ga*NjIyMDM5MTQ2LjE3MjA3ODc1Nzc.*_ga_09YZB474KL*MTcyMDc4NzU3Ni4xLjEuMTcyMDc4Nzc3Mi4wLjAuMA..#gallery-6 

 

that's definitely black, but the spoke says silber.

 

I assume these are the Triton rims? I suspect they have been superseded by a version for a different model; 17s seem to be with a Karoq part number (57A...) and 18s with Kodiaq (565...)

 

Can you find them on kopacek?

 

5 hours ago, Tonnch said:

Thanks for this, but I already understood that - what I'm saying is that the code on the wheels, on the back of a spoke, it is clearly embossed with 3V0601025AG / JX2 / Schwarz
But the wheels are silver.  Always have been, since brand new.

 

I expect VAG will often cast all of the OEM part numbers for all of the colours in that style, otherwise they would have to make castings for each colour.

 

Edited 12 July, 20241 yr by Carlston

On 12/07/2024 at 12:12, Tonnch said:

Hi,

Thanks for this, but I already understood that - what I'm saying is that the code on the wheels, on the back of a spoke, it is clearly embossed with 3V0601025AG / JX2 / Schwarz
But the wheels are silver.  Always have been, since brand new.

That's my original question - the wheels are marked as black (Schwarz) and have a part number people tell me is for black, but they are most definitely silver.
And that's why I'm confused!

I have since seen a couple of (too knackered for me) wheels online with the same code that are also silver, not black.

Because everyone says the part number on my not-black wheels is for black wheels, I am unclear on what part number to go looking for, original or after-market - as I really don't want to get a black one!

Can anyone shed any light on this?

Thanks

Do you have only one P/N (for black) on the back of the Spoke?

 

Anyway, I don’t really undrestand what’s your issue if you have these from new, there is now way they can’t be Skoda wheels.

 

They exist in 3 colors. If you need the OEM P/N for Silver ones, you have it previous posts. 
 

🤷‍♂️

Edited 13 July, 20241 yr by Bap33

On 12/07/2024 at 13:42, brettikivi said:

looking on rrr, i see the other way around - https://rrr.lt/en/used-part/cmp4277-3v0601025f-skoda-superb-b8-3v-r18-alloy-rim?_gl=1*1az7lhc*_up*MQ..*_ga*NjIyMDM5MTQ2LjE3MjA3ODc1Nzc.*_ga_09YZB474KL*MTcyMDc4NzU3Ni4xLjEuMTcyMDc4Nzc3Mi4wLjAuMA..#gallery-6 

 

that's definitely black, but the spoke says silber.

 

I assume these are the Triton rims? I suspect they have been superseded by a version for a different model; 17s seem to be with a Karoq part number (57A...) and 18s with Kodiaq (565...)

 

Can you find them on kopacek?

 

Yep, it's all very weird.  I have also seen an actual gloss black one (just the one) with the same code as mine, but never seen that in any new or old Skoda catalogue.

They're Zenith 18" rims.  I think I saw something similar-looking for a Kodiaq but from memory (so don't quote me) they were only available in 19".  Something like that.

I'm reluctant to replace all the wheels as none of them have been kerbed, just a pothole has bent one a bit out of shape on the inner edge.  I'll see about getting it rolled out but not entirely sure I'll trust a wheel that's been bent out and back into shape.

So my hunt for a replacement goes on.  I've found a few on mainland Europe but no one that would deliver to UK 😞
 

On 13/07/2024 at 18:49, Bap33 said:

Do you have only one P/N (for black) on the back of the Spoke?

 

Anyway, I don’t really undrestand what’s your issue if you have these from new, there is now way they can’t be Skoda wheels.

 

They exist in 3 colors. If you need the OEM P/N for Silver ones, you have it previous posts. 
 

🤷‍♂️

lol I know they're Skoda wheels - that isn't the question.  It was looking for the right part number for a replacement that was the question.
If they have only ever existed in 3 colours, Silver, Anthracite and Platinum (as per latest catalogue I have that they were in, anyway), why have others said they also come in gloss black?
And why do mine state black ... makes no sense at all, unless the colour embossed on the wheel is nothing to do with the colour of the wheel itself and it's the machine that made them or something.

If I could be sure, then the search might be easier - I can go find a silver one, with one of many different codes (I think I have 4 or 5 different codes for ' silver Zenith 18" ' now).
They still seem to be like hen's teeth to find, in any colour!

On 15/07/2024 at 21:46, Tonnch said:

...If they have only ever existed in 3 colours, Silver, Anthracite and Platinum (as per latest catalogue I have that they were in, anyway), why have others said they also come in gloss black?
And why do mine state black ... makes no sense at all, unless the colour embossed on the wheel is nothing to do with the colour of the wheel itself and it's the machine that made them or something.

 

The Zenith 8Jx18 ET44 5/112 57.1 alloy rims come in at least four colours, but not all colours are in both the Skoda parts catalogue and the Skoda accessory catalogue.

 

In case you're not familiar with the Skoda accessory catalogue, it's Skoda's attempt to compete on price with aftermarket alloy rims because they tend to be priced about 60% less than similar alloy rims listed in the Skoda parts catalogue. Often the only different is the part number, eg. 3V0601025F 8Z8 is the same alloy rim as 3V0071498E 8Z8 (although 3V0071498E 8Z8 is no longer available to order from Skoda).

 

Some colours are exclusive to the Skoda parts catalogue and some colours are exclusive to the Skoda accessory catalogue. However, over time some colours are added and dropped from the Skoda accessory catalogue. For example, the 8Z8 DiamondSilver/SilverMetallice version of the ZENITH 8Jx18 ET44 5/112 57.1 alloy rim is no longer available in the latest Skoda accessory catalogue.

 

Skoda parts catalogue (note the xxx061xxx format, which means they are listed in the standard Skoda part catalogue)

2	3V0601025F	Aluminium rim	8Jx18 ET44	4	PR:CJ2
	3V0601025F 8Z8	Diamond silver			ZENITH
2	3V0601025AE	Aluminium rim	8Jx18 ET44	4	PR:CL7
	3V0601025AE HZ9	platinum			ZENITH
2	3V0601025AG	Aluminium rim	8Jx18 ET44	4	PR:45S
	3V0601025AG JX2	black-glossy			ZENITH

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/851/6/601/601080

 

2021 Skoda accessory catalogue (note the xxx071xxx format, which means they are listed in the Skoda accessory catalogue)

3V0071498E 8Z8 silver metallic ZENITH (this is the same alloy rim as 3V0601025F 8Z8)

3V0071498D HZ9 platinum matt ZENITH (this is the same alloy rim as 3V0601025AE HZ9)

3V0071498C HA7 anthracite metallic ZENITH

https://www.skoda.co.uk/_doc/639a0118-4da5-446b-a786-86e1f789b57b

 

Edited 16 July, 20241 yr by Carlston

1 hour ago, Carlston said:

 

The Zenith 8Jx18 ET44 5/112 57.1 alloy rims come in at least four colours, but not all colours are in both the Skoda parts catalogue and the Skoda accessory catalogue.

 

In case you're not familiar with the Skoda accessory catalogue, it's Skoda's attempt to compete on price with aftermarket alloy rims because they tend to be priced about 60% less than similar alloy rims listed in the Skoda parts catalogue. Often the only different is the part number, eg. 3V0601025F 8Z8 is the same alloy rim as 3V0071498E 8Z8 (although 3V0071498E 8Z8 is no longer available to order from Skoda).

 

Some colours are exclusive to the Skoda parts catalogue and some colours are exclusive to the Skoda accessory catalogue. However, over time some colours are added and dropped from the Skoda accessory catalogue. For example, the 8Z8 DiamondSilver/SilverMetallice version of the ZENITH 8Jx18 ET44 5/112 57.1 alloy rim is no longer available in the latest versions of the Skoda accessory catalogue. It might still be available in the Skoda parts catalogue, but expect to pay about two and a half times more compared to similar alloy rims in the Skoda accessory catalogue.

 

Skoda parts catalogue (note the xxx061xxx format, which means they are (or were) listed in the standard Skoda part catalogue)

2	3V0601025F	Aluminium rim	8Jx18 ET44	4	PR:CJ2
	3V0601025F 8Z8	Diamond silver			ZENITH
2	3V0601025AE	Aluminium rim	8Jx18 ET44	4	PR:CL7
	3V0601025AE HZ9	platinum			ZENITH
2	3V0601025AG	Aluminium rim	8Jx18 ET44	4	PR:45S
	3V0601025AG JX2	black-glossy			ZENITH

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/851/6/601/601080

 

2021 Skoda accessory catalogue (note the xxx071xxx format, which means they are listed in the Skoda accessory catalogue)

3V0071498E 8Z8 silver metallic ZENITH (this is the same alloy rim as 3V0601025F 8Z8)

3V0071498D HZ9 platinum matt ZENITH (this is the same alloy rim as 3V0601025AE HZ9)

3V0071498C HA7 anthracite metallic ZENITH

https://www.skoda.co.uk/_doc/639a0118-4da5-446b-a786-86e1f789b57b

 

Thanks for this, I was aware of most of it, but sadly, it doesn't really resolve the quandry.
As per my original question, on the back of a spoke on my wheels is a very clear '3V0601025AG JX2 Schwarz' which the catalogue says is black-glossy, but the wheel is and has always been Silver.
So I remain unclear - are the physical parts of my car incorrectly marked, or is the catalogue incorrect?  Either way, it doesn't really help me find a replacement by exact part number.

If I go by colour alone, is that good enough?  Will all the 'silver' Zenith wheels match colour-wise, even mine with their 'glossy black' part number?
If so, then 'a silver one' is what I'll aim at - clearly matching a replacement by part number is 50/50 whether it'll be black or silver!

5 minutes ago, Tonnch said:

are the physical parts of my car incorrectly marked

Maybe they're simply incorrectly painted... Since P/N and colour don't match. 

1 hour ago, Tonnch said:

As per my original question, on the back of a spoke on my wheels is a very clear '3V0601025AG JX2 Schwarz' which the catalogue says is black-glossy, but the wheel is and has always been Silver.

 

Are you sure all three OEM part numbers (one for each colour) aren't on the back of the rim? This would enable Skoda to make one casting for all of the colours. The colour is applied after the alloy rim is cast.

 

OEM part numbers for 8Jx18 ET44 5/112 57.1 alloy rim ZENITH (from Superb MK3 parts catalogue)

3V0601025F 8Z8

3V0601025AE HZ9

3V0601025AG JX2

 

Note that the below alloy rim has 3V0601025AG JX2, 3V0601025AE HZ9, and 3V0601025AD HA7 cast into the back of it, even though it's just a 3V0601025AG JX2 alloy rim. This shows that Skoda makes just one casting for a range of different colours.

 

3V0601025AG JX2 8Jx18 ET44 5/112 57.1 alloy rim ZENITH

 

3V0601025AG JX2 8Jx18 ET44 5/112 57.1 alloy rim ZENITH (note the 3V0601025AE HZ9 cast into it)

 

3V0601025AG JX2 8Jx18 ET44 5/112 57.1 alloy rim ZENITH (note the 3V0601025AD HA7 cast into it)

 

Edited 16 July, 20241 yr by Carlston

On 16/07/2024 at 22:30, Carlston said:

 

Are you sure all three OEM part numbers (one for each colour) aren't on the back of the rim? This would enable Skoda to make one casting for all of the colours. The colour is applied after the alloy rim is cast.

 

OEM part numbers for 8Jx18 ET44 5/112 57.1 alloy rim ZENITH (from Superb MK3 parts catalogue)

3V0601025F 8Z8

3V0601025AE HZ9

3V0601025AG JX2

 

Note that the below alloy rim has 3V0601025AG JX2, 3V0601025AE HZ9, and 3V0601025AD HA7 cast into the back of it, even though it's just a 3V0601025AG JX2 alloy rim. This shows that Skoda makes just one casting for a range of different colours.

 

3V0601025AG JX2 8Jx18 ET44 5/112 57.1 alloy rim ZENITH

 

3V0601025AG JX2 8Jx18 ET44 5/112 57.1 alloy rim ZENITH (note the 3V0601025AE HZ9 cast into it)

 

3V0601025AG JX2 8Jx18 ET44 5/112 57.1 alloy rim ZENITH (note the 3V0601025AD HA7 cast into it)

 

To be honest, no I'm not sure they don't have all 3 part numbers - they're still on the car and it's pretty hard for me to get under there lol

I can understand one casting for the three as it is just a different colour, but it seems a bit dumb to apply 3 part numbers to the same item in my view (for anything!).
They could easily have used another process to etch the correct part number at the point of painting.

I'll maybe have another bash at getting under there and see what I can see.

It sounds like 'silver' is all I'm really looking for though, thanks
 

22 minutes ago, Tonnch said:

I can understand one casting for the three as it is just a different colour, but it seems a bit dumb to apply 3 part numbers to the same item in my view (for anything!).
They could easily have used another process to etch the correct part number at the point of painting.

 

Another process would add cost, and they can hardly have thousands of alloy rims coming out of the casting process and being transported to perhaps another building without some identification number on them.

 

Some owners get their alloy rims refurbished, so if the OEM part number wasn't cast onto the rim this number could get lost when it's sandblasted and repainted, etc.

 

Edited 19 July, 20241 yr by Carlston