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1.0 MPI Break-In (max RPMs)

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58 minutes ago, nta16 said:

 

...With these 7 gears if 1st is low do I take it 6th is direct ratio (or there abouts) and 7th is overdrive, any idea of ratios?

 

 

This 2017 .pdf file provides Fabia gear-ratio data - and  I'm guessing that current Fabias have similar ratios.

 

https://cdn.skoda-storyboard.com/2016/05/FABIA-en.pdf

 

The power/torque curves for the 1.0TSI motor are shown below

 

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It should be apparent from the graphs that (unlike the non-turbo 1.0MPI motor) there is a large chunk of torque at 1000rpm, rapidly increasing to peak at 2000rpm. 

 

Regarding JFrankMiller's comment about his car's DSG gearbox changing down lethargically from 7th to 6th when the  car was slowed from 50mph to 40mph on a motorway, I'm a mite surprised that the transmission did not remain in 7th at a steady 40mph speed, with a downwards shift only taking place if the driver pressed the accelerator pedal. 

It would be too many gears dropped when it gets to needing to 5th, or 4th if you want to actually boot it and get a move on. 

 

Anyway as Skoda (VW) call them.  S-A (Semi Automatic). You have a gear shifter, you can use it. Or paddles.

There is kick down, there is even if you need, 'double kickdown'.  Lovely with a 1.4 TSI twincharger, or even the Polo GTI 1.8 TSI DSG with 192 ps. 

With the Twincharger you are down to below 3,500 rpm, even 2,800 rpm and gave Turbo & Supercharger in 3rd. 

8 hours ago, Ootohere said:

@nta16

Sorry no, but there was a thread here with them a while back and also in the Mk2 sections.

The DSG mapping (DQ200,s) is different for the different power outputs. 

 

Surely that's quite costly, to produce different ratioed versions of the gearbox? Or is it designed to have different cogs slotted into it during manufacturing?

When Skoda built a new plant and increases the number of DQ200,s that they built for the VW group in 2015 they said they were used in 48 applications.   That is models with power output from 75ps to 192 ps, petrol, diesel, and now mild hybrids.   I would think the cost of producing pretty much the same gearbox from 2008- 2024 and not yet come up with a new version has been good value.  What a pity VW can not put a 10 year warranty on a product with no service schedule or maintenance regime.   Well other than that had to in 2012 in the like if China because they c0cked up. 

For the latest Fabia, only UK models with the most powerful 1.0TSI motor or the 1.5TSI motor can have a DSG transmission. 

 

Given the significantly higher power/torque outputs of the 1.5TSI motor (and the resultant higher on-road performance of the car) compared to the 1.0TSI, it's to be expected that the ratios of the 1.5TSI's DSG gearbox should differ from the 1.0TSI's.

 

However, despite being 'geeky' myself, I can't see this really matters as the driver is constrained by how the DSG transmission behaves and cannot affect it outside what Skoda allows. The "Automatic gearbox" advice in the Fabia Owner's Manual defines what's possible (drive or sports program, manual gear-changing  and kick-down) and that's it. 

Edited by DerekU

They are never going to recommend putting it in manual 1st and holding on the parking brake and not the foot brake then floor it and make it shift up automatically without you doing it.  Not all do it and with the 1.0tsi probably not worth bothering anyway.  Or just not with your own car, do it with a demonstrator.  

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