I could put this in several places, but i feel like this will reach more people who may need the information.

Just saw a video on Tiktok that Tesla is facing another class action lawsuit in the US, for essentially clocking their cars.

Turns out the Odometer reporting on some/ many Teslas have been using AI and driver "analytics " to alter the odometer reporting to increase the displayed distance travelled. Why would they do that? well because its another way to invalidate the warranty - by exceeding the warrantied distance faster.

a guy noticed that the drive reporting was showing his very regular 25 mile commute was showing as erratic and varied driving up to 76miles. but after the vehicle went over the warranty covered 50k, the reporting normalised to it being a 25mile drive consistantly.

Dumb bstards if it's true. Seems even more likely to be discovered than VW's NOx emissions dodge.

Why do you think Elon is slowly trying to gut all the US safety administrations and consumer protections are being stripped by Donny...

Apart from the warranty aspect, that would also indicate an inflated range per charge.

Is there such law suit? I can't find any non social media news reporting this.

Rated range (or MPG) figure in any vehicle, ICE or EV, Tesla or VW, has always been inflated due to test cycles not reflective of real world driving.

For my Model Y I owned since new, 4 miles on odometer. I started using TeslaMate at around 100 miles on the odometer. It has record of every single drive, both GPS updates every second and odometer reading. I have never seen any data discrepancy.

GitHub

GitHub - teslamate-org/teslamate: A self-hosted data logg...

A self-hosted data logger for your Tesla 🚘. Contribute to teslamate-org/teslamate development by creating an account on GitHub.

Edit: I searched through the open source repository, no report of odometer inconsistency.

Edited 14 April, 20251 yr by wyx087

13 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

Is there such law suit? I can't find any non social media news reporting this.

Rated range (or MPG) figure in any vehicle, ICE or EV, Tesla or VW, has always been inflated due to test cycles not reflective of real world driving.

For my Model Y I owned since new, 4 miles on odometer. I started using TeslaMate at around 100 miles on the odometer. It has record of every single drive, both GPS updates every second and odometer reading. I have never seen any data discrepancy.

GitHub

GitHub - teslamate-org/teslamate: A self-hosted data logg...

A self-hosted data logger for your Tesla 🚘. Contribute to teslamate-org/teslamate development by creating an account on GitHub.

Edit: I searched through the open source repository, no report of odometer inconsistency.

Lawsuit filed on Feb. 7 in California, reported on Newswire, published 9/4/25 - action involves a 2020 model Y.

its on thestreet.com classaction.org

and carcomplaints.com

its not getting media coverage because, well, lets face it the current US new media sphere is being very quiet about most things even loosely connected to Elon or Trump 🤷‍♂️

if i had more details than that i would them, but its all i have at the minute.

Im sure it doesnt affect every vehicle, these things rarely do, and it may be a jurisdictional thing - ie its only been done in certain places. but it may be worth tracking for anyone with a tesla

29 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

Rated range (or MPG) figure in any vehicle, ICE or EV, Tesla or VW, has always been inflated due to test cycles not reflective of real world driving

from what i have read, the issue isnt with it altering the range, but with manipulating the total odometer mileage until it reads over the warranty cover distance in a shorter time period than it should reach that limit.

range manipultaion was a different lawsuit a couple of yrs ago 😆😆

Edited 14 April, 20251 yr by mac11irl

Found it:

Tesla Lawsuit Alleges Automaker...

Tesla Lawsuit Alleges Automaker Manipulates Odometer Read...

A class action alleges Tesla has manipulated odometer readings in its EVs to display greater distances than were actually driven in an effort to dodge repair obligations under mileage-capped warran...

Seems fishy (for Tesla), it is certainly something I would similarly watch out for when near the 50k warranty limit. But I sure hope the plaintiff kept a driving log.

But can't see how it could possibly relate to range per charge claims. (as claimed by @Warrior193 )

from what i saw the plaintiff said the onboard driver log had recorded his 25mile standard commute as a 75mile journey on a number of occasions.

i dont think Warrior was necessarily making a claim about the range per cycle discrepancy, more so putting it out there as a possibility it could impact on it.

Surely there is something on X or Truth Social.

Just now, mac11irl said:

from what i saw the plaintiff said the onboard driver log had recorded his 25mile standard commute as a 75mile journey on a number of occasions.

How does it stand in court of law (excuse my lack of knowledge on that front) to make the claim that his driving does not equal to recorded odometer?

Tesla will likely produce GPS logs of driving, as they did with other lawsuits such as those regarding brake pedal. Therefore, the plaintiff must be able to counter that with some hard evidence.

4 minutes ago, mac11irl said:

i dont think Warrior was necessarily making a claim about the range per cycle discrepancy, more so putting it out there as a possibility it could impact on it.

Again, can't see how it could impact range per charge. Rated range (and MPG) has always been standardised by WLTP or EPA. Nothing can be done by manufacturer.

Edit;

This is what I see in TeslaMate for one drive session (from out of P to back into P) odometer reading comes from the vehicle, miles comes from GPS log of driving. The Tesla mothership must have similar in their database.

Edited 14 April, 20251 yr by wyx087

Lots will come out if the Proposed Action gets to the courts.

TESLA will have to defend but those bringing the case will not just have GPS or cars data but likely to have to provide from their phone or other devices their times and places as and when is relevant.

Amazing that if this was going on that fleet operators, hire, and commercial or private drivers were not aware or caring.

I had an EV that lost lots and lots of miles from the dash display but surely not from its ECU after an over the air update and a dealership carrying out software updates.

31 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

How does it stand in court of law (excuse my lack of knowledge on that front) to make the claim that his driving does not equal to recorded odometer?

Tesla will likely produce GPS logs of driving, as they did with other lawsuits such as those regarding brake pedal. Therefore, the plaintiff must be able to counter that with some hard evidence.

Again, can't see how it could impact range per charge. Rated range (and MPG) has always been standardised by WLTP or EPA. Nothing can be done by manufacturer.

Edit;

This is what I see in TeslaMate for one drive session (from out of P to back into P) odometer reading comes from the vehicle, miles comes from GPS log of driving. The Tesla mothership must have similar in their database.

Fiddling the Odo reading on a trip could affect the range per charge by stating that the vehicle has travelled 76 miles per trip, when it was actually only travelling 25 miles. The inflated cumulative distance would make it appear the vehicle was achieving a much greater distance between charges.

Many a BEV driver would notice that the car had supposedly done 3 times the distance expected for the electricity used.

Surely it is not as simple to cheat as it is with e-Bikes. Change the total diameter of the wheels on the software and you get a higher speed while pedalling or assistance.

I can see people cheating down the miles covered with lease cars etc, save paying over miles.

Then there was the Car Trade 'Clocking up' to 3,000 miles for the Demonstrator Tax Breaks in the UK.

Back in the day the HIRE CARS still in plastic and grease from the Channel Isles that came to the UK to besold having done 3,000 miles.

FORDS...

Edited 14 April, 20251 yr by Ootohere