............, thats why rain water doesn't leave water marks, its clean and pure.

Not quite bengie.

Water droplets will only form if water vapour makes contact with a dust particle.

Condensation occurs and eventually it falls to the ground.

If the particles are big enough, Sand etc... (Not uncommon with a Southerly wind) then they will leave a fine covering behind.

So its not that clean and pure at all

Back on topic.

Ionised water is very good BUT its not really needed if youre going to wipe off the water or sheet it with a hose.

If youre lazy and cant be bothered to dry the car, then get an ionizer

Caravan Centres sell a product called (Bobby Dazzler) this is a rinse aid, you put it into your rinse water, and then pour it over the car with a watering can etc. The water just runs off and leaves the car almost pefectly dry.

No runs or streaks or water marks

Not quite bengie.

Water droplets will only form if water vapour makes contact with a dust particle.

Condensation occurs and eventually it falls to the ground.

If the particles are big enough, Sand etc... (Not uncommon with a Southerly wind) then they will leave a fine covering behind.

So its not that clean and pure at all

Back on topic.

Ionised water is very good BUT its not really needed if youre going to wipe off the water or sheet it with a hose.

If youre lazy and cant be bothered to dry the car, then get an ionizer

thats not what they taught me at school :confused:

they said water droplets formed as the water cooled and condensed over the colder air :confused:

but that was many years ago and i have never looked into it since

Bengie walks off towards wikipedia.......................

just googled it, seems school was right

Rain | Scholastic.com

Rain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

holy crap wikipedia has a lot of big words about rain :confused:

Rain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

holy crap wikipedia has a lot of big words about rain :confused:

Found out about acid rain though, yet ?

Acid rain occurs when the dust particle that the water vapour condenses upon is made from a toxic chemical, such as Sulphur Dioxide and other gases such as nitrogen oxide from burning fossil fuels, mixes with the water to form an acid (Sulphuric Acid etc...

SWMBO is taking the mick out of me big style over this

I panicked and bought up stacks when I saw them 99p BOGOF for the filters and £1.99 for the shampoo. Yet whenever I see them cheap (Poundstretcher and their sister store In-Store still have them) I have to just "buy a couple more"

We have stupidly hard water here, a cartridge lasts 4 washes instead of 10 :( I also find it doesn't work without the flash soap. Instead of sheeting the water off it just seems to bead up and the non filtered water sits on the paint.

I think I've got enough soap and cartridegs for around 75 to 100 washes in the garage :P

I remember a few years back flicking through the channels and seeing a hose attachment on QVC that was meant to eliminate water marks, not sure if they were any good or if they are still available.

When it gets to new boiler time I'm seriously considering a water softener for the house.

I fitted a softener a few years ago, not specifically for the car though. At £450 to £1000 depending on type, its far cheeper to buy a chamois!

Phil

I fitted a softener a few years ago, not specifically for the car though. At £450 to £1000 depending on type, its far cheeper to buy a chamois!

Phil

Yeah they aren't cheap, my thoughts were that it would be an investment as I'll get it fitted when I swap my boiler to a combi at some point in the future. Will help stop the new boiler, pipework, washing machine, shower etc getting scaled up. Getting it just for the car would be an extravagance :P

FWIW hard water is supposed to be good for your heart I believe. Whether that's due to the extra exercise involved in wiping water marks off your car or not the report didn't say...

Has anyone got or tried these magnetic water conditioner things? Water Conditioners

They involve wrapping a coil around the inlet pipe...

Water conditioners don't remove the hardness from the water so I doubt it will make much difference when washing the car.

They alter the structure of water impurities to prevent them from precipitating as readily as usual. You need an ion exchange resin bed softener that uses salt on the regeneration cycle to really soften the water.

You also need a non softened tap in the kitchen because drinking softened water is seriously not recommended.

They are expensive but well worth it in the long run as it will last about 20 years if looked after. I am considering one for my house because the water is a joke around here.

The hard tap thing isn't such an issue. Independant studies have shown that there is no real increased risk of health issues, and was actually found to slightly reduce the risk of heart disease, IIRC. Anyhoo, we haven't got the hard tap, and were advised that we needn't bother. I'd recommend a mechanical twin tank type, rather than the electronic single tank type, as they are more efficient, don't need power, and don't interupt water supply.

Now hows that for a thread hijack!! (Sorry)

Phil

I much prefer using a bucket to rinse, then soapy water, then rinse and a chamois and then a full waxing session and then a polish.

I just want to wash the car, not make love to it.

I just want to wash the car, not make love to it.

:orb_lol:

They are expensive but well worth it in the long run as it will last about 20 years if looked after. I am considering one for my house because the water is a joke around here.

In the Chilterns the water comes out in lumps!