On my Felly (1.6 AEE engine) I've noticed a ticking sound when taking off from home or work, i.e. when the car has been parked for some hours. Both at home in the morning and at work in the afternoon my jorney starts with slow navigation from my driveway/parking lot and on minor streets, so I seldom go over 2,000 rpm the first 2 minutes or so, and that's when I hear it. After that the ticking disappears.

I found an old post

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/felicia-fun-forman/piper-schrick-camshaft/84292/#post971156

where TeflonTom wrote:

"the oil gradually escapes by seeping out through the sides of the pistons and through the feed hole whilst the engine is running and also if the engine is left standing for a while without running. on some engines they can loose all of the oil whilst standing which manifests itself as a rattling on startup hence the phrase 'tappety' which soon goes after the oil pressure has built up."

To me this sounds both reasonable and reassuring. But maybe Tom meant that that the tapping should go away in just a few seconds? In other words, should I worry (and have a word with my garage) or should I just relax and turn the radio up a bit?

:wave:

how long it takes for the rattling to go away depends on what grade and the condition of the oil...

the best way to test the hydraulic lifters is to leave the car standing over night, remove the rocker cover, turn the engine over till the lifter is on the back of the cam lobe, then push down on the lifter, if it moves more than about 0.5mm before touching the top of the valve stem then the lifter is probably knackered

Thanks, TeflonTom, you're a brick!

I'll get my toolbox out next weekend if it's not raining (for some reason the garage over the years has become occupied by bicycles, old toboggans, mattresses and a weaving loom, hence useless for DYI projects. High time for a jumble sale).

Thanks, TeflonTom, you're a brick!

i'm a what???

Oooops - try to keep my English up through reading so maybe I catch up the odd outdated phrasing now and then...

so I googled to be on the safe side and found the following:

"I assume it is an English idiom because I see nothing unusual about it.

To me it means you are really great because you are reliable, helpful, and solid.

There is a similar sounding word which is a lot ruder, but it doesn't have a b in it."

I think the last time anyone in Britain called anyone else 'a brick' was about 1940!

Still, my Swedish stretches to, er, um, nothing at all, so big up yourself for trying!

There is a similar sounding word which is a lot ruder, but it doesn't have a b in it."

yeah that's me.... the one that begins with p

I'll check my spelling next time, TeflonTom!

1940's :eek: ... seems as if I'll have to catch up with things, I'm not that old!

By the way, ap0gee, you probably know more Swedish than you know, there has been a few Scandinavian words nestling themselves into English during the last 1000 years or so. The latest, I think, is "gravadlax" which surprised me a lot when I first saw it in England.

'gravadlax'

never heard of that before

probably cause i don't eat cured salted salmon :chef:

Oh but you should try it! One of the few dishes from the Scandinavian kitchen that deserve international praise. And it's not that salt either (with more salt in the salt/sugar mix it becomes "rimmad lax"). Served with fresh potatoes and a sauce of sugar, vinegar, mustard, oil and dill.

Oddly enough something happened when the word was adopted in the UK - in Swedish it's either "gravad lax" (two separate words) or "gravlax".

There's a "Laxey" (Salmon Island) on the Isle of Man, sure sign of Scandinavian influence.

:)The ticking could be a leaking exhaust manifold or gasket.

"*****" is the word your were after!!!!!!!!

:sofahide:

:)The ticking could be a leaking exhaust manifold or gasket.

Thanks for the suggestion, David I'll take a look at the exhaust too while I'm at it.

There's a "Laxey" (Salmon Island) on the Isle of Man, sure sign of Scandinavian influence.

:agree: While we're on a bit of a Time Team tip, IIRC any place ending in -by is a sure sign of Norse influence. I used to live in Lincolnshire where there were loads:

North Rauceby, South Rauceby, Welby, Oasby, Haceby, Braceby, Humby, Hanby, Silk Willoughby, Spanby, Kirkby-la-Thorpe (bit of a Norman thing going on there too!), Ewerby, Ewerby Waithe, Old Somerby, Ashby-de-la-Launde (more Normans!), Naveby, Colby, and of course the original Boothby Graffoe!

(Sounds a bit like the beginning of Trumpton - the extended 12" remix, perhaps? :P )

Yes, Lincolnshire is part of the old Danelaw I think? By is "village" Kirk (Danish "kirke", Swedish "kyrka") is "church", so "Kirkby" is "Church village". "Boothby" probably the village with a lot of shops/sheds ("bod").

:)The ticking could be a leaking exhaust manifold or gasket.

that's a good call dave.... that could explain it, :rubchin: after the engine has warmed the gap in the gasket is sealed up

Yes, Lincolnshire is part of the old Danelaw I think? By is "village" Kirk (Danish "kirke", Swedish "kyrka") is "church", so "Kirkby" is "Church village". "Boothby" probably the village with a lot of shops/sheds ("bod").

Just in case you missed the reference to Boothby Graffoe: clicky linky Why he chose that name, I don't know! Kind of Royston Vasey in reverse! Oh God - I'm ruining this thread!

that's a good call dave.... that could explain it, :rubchin: after the engine has warmed the gap in the gasket is sealed up

I guess this means that it's a tiny gap that cannot be spotted from the outside unless with some kind of sophisticated gas probe? Which means that the proper thing to do is to get new gaskets and see if the problem disappears, right?

Oh God - I'm ruining this thread!

Far from it, just a bit of expanding/restructuring You're welcome!

a good way to test it for leaks is to get a bottle with some water in, and start the engine from stone cold and pour water round the mating surfaces and see if the sound dissapears at any point, dont do it when the engine is hot though, could cause the manifold to crack

A handy tip, thanks There's more in heaven and on earth than can ever be read in a Haynes manual...

I'm grateful to have a felicia where I at least can find the exhaust manifold and not just have to look at a f***ing big plastic cover when opening the bonnet...