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where to get bio diesel from in brum

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anyone got any ideas:confused: i cant seem to find anywhere, i live in solihull and want to give it a go, ps if anyone is using it what is the cost compared to the norm ?

thanks

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no worries found one now about 5 miles away :rolleyes:

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talked to the petrol station in question and they have 100% bio at the pump and the cost is 77.9p per ltr wow so much cheaper.

Care to share the location with a fellow Brummie? Not actually done any research, but are there any benefits besides price to running a car on BioDiesel? It's probably more environmentally friendly, but is performance not compromised?

Whats biodiesel? first iv heard of this

77.9p! Gimmie some of that. Can we use it in the newer BLT engines?

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taken from www.biodieselfillingsstations.co.uk

The single purpose of this site is to provide a list of places in the UK where people can fill their diesel vehicle with Biodiesel. The list therefore includes all outlets not just conventional filling stations. The term “Biodiesel” has come to mean 2 things in the UK: either a mix of biodiesel (Eg. 5% blend with 95% normal diesel) or 100% pure biodiesel. Unfortunately this dual meaning can be misleading and lead to misunderstandings. The availability of 5% biodiesel is becoming common now as the government’s Road Transport Fuel Obligation (RTFO) requires that the UK has 5% of biofuels across the nation soon. The RTFO has within it measures to ensure that all oil is sustainable sourced. This is to be welcomed and hopefully will evolve to have even stricter controls and lead to higher blends across the nation later. As the RTFO secures a 5% blend by law, this site will only list outlets which supply biodiesel of blends higher than 5%.

The Main Environmental Advantage is that Biodiesel is carbon neutral, so using 100% Biodiesel in your vehicle means you are not adding to the global warming crisis. Biodiesel does not add any carbon because it utilises the amount of carbon which naturally circulates between the atmosphere and the biosphere (photosynthesis). Conventional fossil diesel however, does add to the overall level of carbon by extracting carbon deposited in the geosphere (mineral deposits) and releasing it into the atmosphere. Unlike any other available and easily accessible fuel at this time Biodiesel also has the potential of being 100% carbon neutral in its lifecycle too

Biodiesel, in theory, can go into all diesel engines as the diesel engine itself was designed to run on plant oil. However it is the parts attached to the diesel engine which could potentially cause problems – although the vast majority of diesels on the road are fine running on 100% biodiesel. In reality, the rule of thumb is you can use 100% biodiesel in any diesel built between 1990-2004, but be aware that a one-off fuel filter change will be needed after you first make the transition (and any mix of biodiesel and fossil diesel is OK too). I would recommend that cars built after 2004 should run on a 50% blend not 100%. Be aware too that biodiesel made from waste cooking oil will freeze in winter and so from November to April one should blend that kind of Biodiesel at 50% as well. However, Biodiesel made from a Rapeseed crop (RME) will not freeze and can be used at 100% all year round in the UK. Please note that it is advisable to purchase biodiesel with EN14214 specification, that gives you some guarantee of quality. In short – to be safe, use RME Biodiesel at EN14214 in a car built between 1990 and 2004 and then you can be carbon neutral all year without problems!

In terms of official compatibility, despite the majority of diesel vehicles on the road being fine on 100%, only a handful of companies will officially approve their vehicles for 100% use. The companies that have approved 100% biodiesel are VW, Audi, SEAT and Skoda. They have approved all their cars built between 1996 and 2004 on 100% use of ”RME” Biodiesel (Biodiesel made from Rapeseed) providing it meets the specification DIN41606 (which was later replaced by EN14214). These companies can still provide some brand new cars warranted on 100% biodiesel but one has to request it (best to get the official letter from German Base as some UK agents aren’t fully aware). As these companies have officially approved 100% biodiesel I urge you to use your consumer power to support them in supporting the environmental movement.

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so from reading this and the price is good, however for me its the 100% carbon neutral that swings it :rofl:

anyway decided after reading posts on here some good and some bad that i would take it upon myself to fone skoda and ask,

their reply was yes you can run biodiesel if it meets EN14214 specification and that we would advise you to change your fuel pump every 10k MILES if you do so.

so for my thinking if i run say 50:50 mix (max) and not 100% then all is good will help cut my co2 and helps on the pocket

what are your thoughts??

Im well up for this, I have a 2005 vrs, will it be ok in this? Does it effect performance at all? Has anyone else used this?

How much are new fuel pumps gunna cost with fitting?

Sorry to steal your thread!

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sorry not fuel pump my mistake fuel filter lol pumps are expnesive filters about £6

just spoke to my mech as he has vag cars and he actually has a mate who runs a company that produce distribute biodiesel and do the convertions for straight veg oil etc, he is asking him to call me today regarding this topic but according to my mech no worries at all.

think top gear did a test a while ago and found it to be better than norm i think not to fused though as 30mph and 70 mph are the same in any car lol

Im interested i must say, keep me posted on your progress with it. Does it smell like chip pan tho?!

My mate has just started using this in his Seat Leon and he said he has noticed no difference in performance but the car takes a bit longer to start in the cold.

Is your mate using 100% mix or 50/50?

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fabia built upto early 2006 are fine to run on 100% bio as long as it conforms to EN14214 standards, there is an email someone had direct from skoda about this on a previous thread.

Please do a search on Bio as it has been discussed at length on here and many other forums.

It is not a panecea and it needs to be used under advice as getting it wrong will cost you a lot of money.

Is your mate using 100% mix or 50/50?

He's got the 150bhp Leon TDi and he had a ¼ tank of diesel left which he topped up with bio diesel so a 25/75 mix I'd say... it's a bit spluttery on starting also... Any tips for him? I'm not tempted to start using it in my vRS just yet, although the price of diesel is getting stupid.

He's got the 150bhp Leon TDi and he had a ¼ tank of diesel left which he topped up with bio diesel so a 25/75 mix I'd say... it's a bit spluttery on starting also... Any tips for him? I'm not tempted to start using it in my vRS just yet, although the price of diesel is getting stupid.

Yeah, thin it down more especially at this time of year. You will put too much strain on the pump and you risk getting wax in the filter.

I would be using 25% max on the Bio in a PD.

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yep am going to get some this afternoon and start off with 25% bio see how it goes

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