Right clutch is knackered and slipping like a polar bear on an icerink.

I have two options a Sachs clutch or a Helix clutch

My car is running a star performance remap, so im assuming around 180bhp and 300lb of torque,

I want something that is going to be able to cope with this for a good few years (basically as long as the car is on the road) i do like to give my cars a fair bashing.

Will the sachs one suffice or would i be better to go full measure and get the Helix one, dont want to be in the same postition in a years time and be kicking myself?

what you guys think?

No contest.....................................................SACHS all the way. But then i would say that as i work for them and have tested them out on my allard tuned ibiza fr tdi before i wrote it off.

are the Helix ones not rated for more torque??

Basically i do hash cars about and is the sachs going to be upto the job?

are the Helix ones not rated for more torque??

Basically i do hash cars about and is the sachs going to be upto the job?

it will cope with 180 bhp all day long matey. I had a full stage 3 spec allard conversion, which got driven to within an inch of its life daily and was also up santa pod on many occasions. Not once did i have clutch slip.

Yes the helix ones are rated higher possibly, but with the helix, if you go for the full kit you need to go for a SMF if i recall correctly.

yeah i heard that too about a SMF! bit noisier too, the sachs would be ideal, price wise and if it can cope great.

My stepdad says i should get a Helix one and then i know i can give it the beans, suppose i would feel safer with it too!

see what the mechanic says, he is into rallying and knows the WRC skoda boys, so might end up with a Group N clutch for much cheapness

The Sachs organic is rated to 350lb/ft, and that's believed to be fairly conservative figure anyway. It tends to be the torque that will kill a clutch in a remapped diesel, not out and out BHP.

I have one combined with a Jabba custom map and I'm very pleased with it. Day-to-day driveability is hardly affected at all and the clutch pedal retains a lot of the OEM feel, albeit with a slightly higher biting point. You get used to it in no time...

It cost me £580 fitted; a GB price combined with Jabba fitting before my custom map was applied.

Steve

Yes - you do need a SMF with the Helix setup. I retained a stock DMF with my Sachs setup. I personally thought the SMF route a bit too extreme, for day-to-day driving with the added harshness and vibration.

Steve

The Sachs organic is rated to 350lb/ft, and that's believed to be fairly conservative figure anyway. It tends to be the torque that will kill a clutch in a remapped diesel, not out and out BHP.

I have one combined with a Jabba custom map and I'm very pleased with it. Day-to-day driveability is hardly affected at all and the clutch pedal retains a lot of the OEM feel, albeit with a slightly higher biting point. You get used to it in no time...

It cost me £580 fitted; a GB price combined with Jabba fitting before my custom map was applied.

Steve

£580 fitted :-o thats a good price, i got mine for £250 from work then about another £200 for fitting at JBS :ashamed:

hmm £580 aint a bad price, i dare say i could get it a slight bit cheaper than that..

will phone mechanic tomorrow and see what he says. good lad and knows his stuff. Goes all round the world as a mechanic in the WRC, can change a WRC gearbox in 7 minutes (think) so im in good hands, i'll let him get what he thinks as he knows how i drive.

1.2 corsa - hole in radiator from a bit of offroading

306 hdi - sump smashed, brake caliper snapped.

lol

vrs - new clutch

i wonder when they will invent a car that will stand up to my abuse

Yeah, I thought it was a good deal. A £400 GB price and then fitting at Jabba.

Steve

Yes - you do need a SMF with the Helix setup. I retained a stock DMF with my Sachs setup. I personally thought the SMF route a bit too extreme, for day-to-day driving with the added harshness and vibration.

Steve

Thing is my stock DMF may be fubar as the clutch seemed as if it had given up the ghost in a major way

hmm £580 aint a bad price, i dare say i could get it a slight bit cheaper than that..

If you can get a fitted Sachs organic for less, I'm sure there would be plenty of people interested

Other setups maybe - but I wanted something good quality, that would reliably stand up to remapped performance, while maintaining standard driveability. It perhaps the last bit that you'll find hard to find

Steve

Thing is my stock DMF may be fubar as the clutch seemed as if it had given up the ghost in a major way

DMF = £89+VAT

im pretty sure i could get it fitted for less, you boys go to jabba etc and pay top dollar, whereas i go to a self employed mechanic who knows his stuff and i mean really knows his stuff.

Might not even get either i will just ask him to find me a suitable clutch, he will probaly say helix i guess

DMF = £89+VAT

hmm thats okay

Try and find a sach clutch for less than £450 with out fittin, i think you wont be able to

/\ i was talking about the £580 fitted price, suppose i'll report back tommorrow with what im going for.

I dare say it will be helix, so the potential for FMIC uprated turbo etc is there in the future

Try and find a sach clutch for less than £450 with out fittin, i think you wont be able to

spaniels /\ above got his for £250 from his work, i will get a discount of the book price if i go for a sachs i can guarantee it

I wouldn't say Jabba were top dollar at all, that's saved for the dealers. Personally, I find them extremely good value for the services and expertise they offer.

But to each their own....

Steve

in some cases the dealers or stealers should i say aint bad!

how much do jabba charge per hour lets say?

£50/£60 thats the going rate isnt it?

Sounds the right ballpark - I think 3-4hrs is quoted for a clutch change, so you're in the right area.

Steve

fooking hell!

i pay £25 an hour! for a WRC approved mechanic

Then the WRC mechanic should really charge more!

Surely he should be out working on WRC cars at this time of year anyway?

What company/garage does this WRC mechanic work for? Or is it work he does on the side?

Chris

He has his own garage, works by himself, was good friends with the late colin mcrae. im not sure on which rally team he helps out with, he's always away to foreign lands, corsica and what not, he doesnt go to all of them.

He has his own rally car also

the garage is called craigiebank garage