looking at buying a sub for the boot and i'm torn between these two which one would be best

Blaupunkt active subwoofer THb 200A. 140W amplifier on eBay, also Sub-Woofers Tubes, Speakers, In-Car Entertainment GPS, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 27-Jan-08 17:21:32 GMT) or

KENWOOD KSC-SW1 POWERED AMPLIFIED SUBWOOFER on eBay, also Sub-Woofers Tubes, Speakers, In-Car Entertainment GPS, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 21-Jan-08 13:50:28 GMT)

tbh i would pick a sub in a wooden box and a seperate amp as these are made of plastic and dont sound very good,i would opt for a fli

FLI 12 TRAP ACTIVE SUB 1000W + BUILT-IN AMP + WIRING on eBay, also Sub-Woofers Tubes, Speakers, In-Car Entertainment GPS, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 03-Jan-08 23:56:28 GMT)

but if i had to choose it would probably be the blaupunkt

All depends what you want out of a sub.

They first two aren't gonna sound great at any sort of volume, but anything else wil take up more room.

And then, you've got the different sizes that all give different types of sound, as do the different types of boxes.

Think about what type of bass you're after and then post back for a bit more advice:thumbup:

righto i only want a small sub as i don't want my ears to bleed !!! and i don't want a big daft box in the boot ,and as for sound i like sharp clear punchy bass, i have seen this one also just to throw another in the mix PIONEER TS-WX22A 20CM SEALED POWERED CAR SUBWOOFER on eBay, also Sub-Woofers Tubes, Speakers, In-Car Entertainment GPS, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 03-Jan-08 13:34:40 GMT)

I'll be frank and say that all the subs mentioned will sound pants.

You'll be better looking at a propper sub woofer and seperate amp.

If space is an issue look towards something like an ed 10" SQ.

eDaudio.com

Combined with a 300W rms mono amp for around £100 or so you'll have a sub setup that will be very musical and blow any 'all in one' system out of the water.

These can work in ridiculously small enclosures that you should be able to fit in many places.

We have one on the other halfs car and it sounds superb.

I'll be frank and say that all the subs mentioned will sound pants.

And I tried being so tactful.

And I tried being so tactful.

No point in beating around the bush :P

It took me years of discreetly telling mates that amping 437 speakers on the parcel shelf will never be as good as some components up front and 1 sub in the boot before they finally realised, so now I go for the direct approach

ok i understand what you are saying and if a job is worth doing its worth doing well!!! i took a look at the link twonks the sub looks great , but what about a box to put it in, i could make one in mdf to fit where i need it to go (were the cd changer was in the boot,in my octy ) but would it be the right size for the speaker or dosen't that matter as long as its mounted in something solid, plus can you give me full details of what i need ,speaker / amp (a small one ) plus which wiring kit ,i'm new to this but if its explaind to me what i need i'm quite capable of putting it all together ,also i have no pre outs on my hd for a sub so i will have to use speaker level inputs for the amp

cheers

The sub will need ideally a sealed enclosure between 0.4 and 0.9 cuft, which isn't a lot.

Something like a 12" square on the front by 6" deep made from 18mm MDF will be ok.

The best thing you can do is have a look over on talkaudio for advice, as there are some very knowledgable people there.

I've got an infinity basslink II and its good doesnt take up too space either

bass link 1 appears to be on offer at car audio security

http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/1538.html

I've heard they are good for their size

They arent the loudest of course but they do pack enough of a punch.

The Basslink II has an addon 4 channel amplifier which I'm using to amp the front comps... completely compact solution

were do you have it fitted i want to put mine in the boot of my octy were the cd changer went i think the bass link might be to big

apoligies for the mess in the boot

Looks good that, still have plenty of room in your boot minus the mess :P

Wish I got one of those instead of the active pioneer one that I have..

http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/products_id/2528.html

Mine looks like a drink despencer

I’ve got just the thing if you want to fit a decent sub box and retain your boots space – I spoke to Paul Godden at Auto Acoustics (http://www.autoacoustics.com/ 01403 823628) who made me a stealth box (pictures attached) and shelf.

Auto Acoustics specialise in custom-made sub boxes and acoustic parcel shelves, designed to match the interior of the vehicle. Two trips later I had a compact box which was contoured to fit behind the nearside wheel well in the boot, constructed of fibreglass and MDF, and covered to match the boot interior, looking like a factory-installed option and barely taking up any boot space. The shelf is similarly impressive, being carpeted in acoustically transparent cloth so you cannot see the speakers from above and making it blend in with the car’s interior.

My box is fitted with a cheap 12” Kenwood sub, currently a weak point in my system (arguably along with the 7x10s in the rear shelf J ), hopefully to be replaced with a JL audio 12W3 at some point. This set-up still sounds pretty good, as they are paired with a decent set of component speakers up front, with the rears providing fill.

I’ve been working on the install for sometime now, and have been meaning to do a full write-up of my experiences, but was delayed by family illness – hopefully I’ll get around to it soon! If you do contact Paul, please mention my name (Mark Everett), as I promised him the write-up as part of the deal – this was some time ago.

As for amps, I’d highly recommend the Genesis Profile series. I have 3 installed, including a Profile Sub amp which puts out a genuine 350W RMS into 4ohms at 0.1% THD, 20-200Hz. I don’t play it massively loud, but what the power does give you is control – I have the gains turned almost to the lowest level and listen to a wide variety of music – the bass always sounds tight and controlled. All the profile amps have fan cooling, and I’ve had no problems having them hidden under the floor.

The Profile Sub amp retails at around £400, but can be picked up much cheaper on ebay, new or second hand. I’ve bought six of the Profile range second hand and they’re pretty much bomb-proof, being handmade and British. You can usually pick one up for around £100, but if that’s too much I have a Kenwood 4x100w amp built into a custom housing to fit in front of the net pocket in the boot – keep meaning to advertise it for sale here.

If you need any further help or advice, I’m happy to share with you what I know.