Just want to know if the box engages drive when you put it D like an auto, therefore being able to "hold" for hill starts or, whether the drive only takes up when you put your foot on the accelerator. Is there any build in creep for example or do you pull away by keeping he box in D or S, hold the handbrake on, put foot down, feel the clutch engage and so on.

Heard good things about this box but shudder to think of the cost if it goes bang. haven't had a chance to drive one yet. Ha.s anyone bought one and missed a manual? I have heard that it is so smooth and detached that it takes the fun out of things

If you dont apply brakes on uphill, it will SLIP clutches and that might mean overheating.

It can hold some, but it is possible to slip it backwards. So answer is no, it wont hold.

Handbrake can do same thing (overheat with slipping), if you dont press brake pedal while on gear.

Indeed.

The newer ones have hill assist though to help things along.

In our May 2006 Octy 2 when you put your foot on the footbrake the clutch disengages. Foot off and there is a short (about half a second) delay before the clutch engages. If you're on a hill you'll briefly go backwards. Different on the latest Octys?

There is a "creep" when in D. As above I would not advise using this as a "hill hold" as the clutches can slip - however I believe there is a proper hill hold facility now available, but not sure if is standard on anything apart from the top range model.

Never ever misses the manual box, and this is my first auto. Thought I would use the manual shift facility more but the car works so well in auto mode that I only uses this very occasionally ( usually if I find the car is holding a lower gear for too long on a long incline)

Mine has hill hold - remove your foot from the brake and it holds for a few seconds or until you press the gas pedal, whichever is the sooner.

Never hold the DSG in drive using just the handbrake and no foot brake - the box can over heat and disengage to prevent further damage (I think, or it just disengages as the clutches burn into a molten mess!). Either move into N or keep your foot on the brake whilst in D.

On a steep hill in traffic, once on the move the engine keep enough revs to keep momentum if you can't go much faster.

Great cheers for this everyone. May try a DSG when I replace the Fabia. Do you get the thottle blip on the diesel on the downchanges in both auto and manual mode or is this just on the sporty Golf petrols?

Hold the car with your left foot on the brake.

Incidentally, if, when stopping at traffic lights on level ground, you put the car in neutral and take your foot off the brake (in order not to blind the person behind on these dark evenings), you can feel the click of a switch below your hand on the gear lever and a light comes on the dash to warn you that you've got to "engage" your foot on the brake before engaging D.

Marvellous - its all so well thought out. Love it.

dill

When doing a hill start, I use the handbrake, as I would driving a manual.

At a normal halt, I put the handbrake on then slide the shift into the "N" position.

Keep my eyes on the lights then foot on the brake, into drive, then drop the handbrake.

I have to admit (when I was new to DSG) I found it hard not to play with the lock button on the gear shift. :eek: Bet I have scared the poo poo out of people at the lights with my reversing lights :eek:

If you have been behind me......."SORRY":D

Mine has hill hold - remove your foot from the brake and it holds for a few seconds or until you press the gas pedal, whichever is the sooner.

Never hold the DSG in drive, no foot brake but using the handbrake - the box can over heat and disengage to prevent further damage (I think, or it just disengages as the clutches burn into a molten mess!).

On a steep hill in traffic, once on the move the engine keep enough revs to keep momentum if you can't go much faster.

I'm confused about the above - The clutch (clutches?) only disengage in D when the car is held on the foot brake. Never hold the car in D on the hand brake as it does not disengage the clutch. The hand brake should only be used if the car is in N or P. If the clutches do overheat they will temporarily disengage and you won't go anywhere until they cool down.

BTW the hill hold facility on my L&K is excellent

I'm confused about the above - The clutch (clutches?) only disengage in D when the car is held on the foot brake. Never hold the car in D on the hand brake as it does not disengage the clutch. The hand brake should only be used if the car is in N or P. If the clutches do overheat they will temporarily disengage and you won't go anywhere until they cool down.

BTW the hill hold facility on my L&K is excellent

Just re-read what I wrote - must have been tired! I know you can't hold the car in D with just the handbrake but that didn't come across in my post so I've done an edit!

Hill hold is good, I agree.

The only thing with DSG is there is no immediate creep like a traditional auto - makes driving into my garage interesting when I need to make minor adjustments whilst creeping up to the end wall! At least with a traditional auto you can feather the brake easier than DSG but you get used to it like all things.

Just re-read what I wrote - must have been tired! I know you can't hold the car in D with just the handbrake but that didn't come across in my post so I've done an edit!

Hill hold is good, I agree.

The only thing with DSG is there is no immediate creep like a traditional auto - makes driving into my garage interesting when I need to make minor adjustments whilst creeping up to the end wall! At least with a traditional auto you can feather the brake easier than DSG but you get used to it like all things.

:thumbup:I'm glad we got that sorted - I was a bit worried there for a moment!

cheers, Bert

There is a creep on the DSG!!, I can't compare it to a "normal" auto as I have never driven one but ot works a treat when parking in a tight spot or crawling forward in queues.

Hill hold is good, I agree.

So am I right in thinking that DSG + ESP = Hill Hold?

So am I right in thinking that DSG + ESP = Hill Hold?

I'm not sure to be honest.....hill hold is probably an add-on Skoda charge a few quid for, although it is standard on my L&K. I'm sure another fourmee will be able to confirm!

Yes, hill hold is an extra that you have to pay for, it's not automatically included if you have DSG + ESP.

According to the handbook (page 181) Uphill-Start off-Assist is part of the Electronic stability programme (ESP) but is shown as an option.

On page 186 more details are given, but again it's shown as an option so it's anyone's guess as to what models it's fitted to. It's certainly on my 2007 DSG L&K. If the code 1AT is present in the vehicle ident sticker this indicates ESP is fitted.

There is, of course, a simple way of finding out - go to a steep hill, make sure there's no-one behind you .......