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Wiring help.... live for central locking

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Hi there guys.

Just need some help as to where i can find a wire thats maybe under the glove box or easily accesible that's live when the central locking is activated.

So basically a wire that feeds into the central locking motors when the doors are locked/unlocked.

The reason being is that i have a unit that automatically turns my headlights on when its dark and i would like to get a feed from the central locking so that when its dark and i lock/unlock the car the lights will come on using a relay and timer circuit.

Thanks for you help guys.

Phil

wow that sounds rather um ...intresting. u going to have a red beam that moves frm side to side on the front of ur car (kightrider!)

let us know how it goes, kinda wanna know more about this :D

If you haven't got one already, have you considered getting an alarm? I recently got myself one of these Clifford Arrow 5 - Dynamic Sounds UK £87.98 delivered, after finding the neighbours messing with my car all too-often. They use the Clifford alarms on pimp my ride, and you'll see those remotes if you watch the old episodes on TMF. It's an oldish model but it's cheap, I think the new version is the arrow 5.1. If you can understand the wiring diagrams at the back of the Haynes, and are able to remove the instrument panel and glove box and switches, and have a good level of electrical knowledge it shouldn't pose much of a problem to fit yourself.

Benefits. Assuming your central locking is compatible (it should be I imagine), it will lock and unlock when the alarm is armed/disarmed (effectively remote central locking - unless your car already has it). You have the option to auto-lock on ignition and auto unlock, and there's also an option to automatically lock after 30 secs after ignition off and the door closing but that sounds dangerous to me if the keys end up left in there somehow.

Another benefit is there is an output to turn on the interior light on disarming and alarm sounding (needs a relay). You also get an earthed wire (needs relay) that can be switched by the remote or even activate on arm/disarm (hence lock/unlock) and I think that can be timed as well so you could probably activate the lights with that, and get all the benefits of the alarm.

I have just installed one so if you go for it I'll try help in any way I can, but I put it in a Favorit.

Here's mine being set off YouTube - Skoda Favorit - Clifford Arrow 5 alarm loads of crazy sounds.

It's a thought anyway, I'm quite amazed with all the features packed in it. :) I could e-mail you the installation manual if interested to see what options there are.

IIRC ther is a plug under the dash, just to the left of the radio that is the main connector for the c/l

Thats wicked lol! :D Was it quite straightforward to install?

Just done a bit of searching on the net for the installation manual and here it is http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/clifford/N909595_08-04.pdf

It was relatively straightforward I would say. (But not as straightforward as the all in one cheapies from argos where you fit 2 wires). Main difficulty was passing wires through to the engine bay, I used the rubber bit where the headlight level adjuster thing passes through. I punctured a hole with a nail and managed to pass one wire through by taping it to a nail, then managed to pass others by duct taping wires to each other. I attatched the siren using double sided no more nails removable tape across the entire length and a bolt, nut and 2 washers using one of the holes already on the suspension turret thingy. I guess you're supposed to use two holes but it seems to keep it in place.

So I managed to do it all without any drilling which was my biggest concern really, but I suppose I will have to drill for my central locking kit when I come to try fit that. The earth point on the offside wing had plenty of room for another nut so cleaned that up and used a big ring terminal there and another nut for the earth connections.

As for the aerial, I found a nice cavity and mounted it in the centre underneath the dash (just above the air vents) and although it mentions reduced range when mounted horizontally, the remote still works from one end of the supermarket car park to the other - so I can't imagine that anyone would need to mount it behind the mirror like they say.

But in general it's a good idea to study the wiring diagrams in Haynes and planning how you are going to wire it in before going for it so you can do it all in one go. A soldering iron and heat shrink with heat gun is the proper way auto electricians are meant to install things like this (not that I did).

On the alarm itself it's probably not quite so loud as I would have expected and the shock sensor seems to need to be on full sensitivity, but those are the only bad things I have to say about it. I have ordered a proximity sensor from America via ebay for £25 which should set the alarm off when someone stands closer than they should.

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Don't really think i want the hassle of installing an alarm to be honest at the moment.

The car used to have the original skoda alarm system in but the previous owner had it removed!

Its still got the remote locking though which is linked to/controls the immobiliser.

Will try and find the connector by the radio and test which one is live when the doors are locked/unlocked.

Then i need to find a time delay relay... had a quick look last night but couldn't find too many of them.

Cheers

Phil

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Id seen that before but got confused with pause and pulse time...

Ive just read the FAQ's on the site now and understand... the pause time is how long it stays switched on....

Would require building but it would give me something to do i suppose.

I'm going to hull at the weekend too so could pop in and grab one then!

Maplin > Universal Timer Kit seems possibly more appropriate.

Although I wonder if it needs a constant output rather than the single pulse on lock/unlock the central locking might give

:think:

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