can anyone show me how these are fitted as i want one but don't understand were they are mounted to and what good to they do as the car has a solid rear axel. can anyone give me any details

well I aint all that up in it either but have just ordered A whiteline Rear ARB and a Front ARB, if you go on the search banner type in Whiteline or Jabba ARB and you should find what you after.

yeah i can get one but i'm lookin to know how it works, i don't see how it can benfit, surely polybushes and harder shocks are the answer

yeah i can get one but i'm lookin to know how it works, i don't see how it can benfit, surely polybushes and harder shocks are the answer

The way it hangs together....

Rear axle is far from solid. It's known as a twisting beam. And it twists, rather a lot during cornering. A RARB stiffens things up quite considerably, as has been testified by a number of members over the years.

J.

Hi.

There's some pics of the fitting of a Whiteline and discussion comparing it with the Jabba one:

http://briskoda.net/forums/fabia/whiteline-rear-arb-fitted/95923/

...and fitting of the Jabba one here: (Courtesy of VRStu)

Fabia-vrs.com - Jabbasport Rear Anti Roll Bar

As to how they work, I'm not entirely sure... but everyone who's got one raves about them so they must work...

They definitely work.

Car feels much more solid and capable around bends now, I can do silly speeds that I couldn't do before and you can even get one of the back wheels off the ground if you are really pushing it.

Taken from gti-vr6.net

Sway bars tranfer weight from the inside wheel in a corner to the outside

wheel-think about that for a minute.

At a given cornering speed a car will transfer x amount of weight from the

inside to the outside. Some of the weight will be transfered at the front,

some at the rear, depending on suspension design, ride height, weight

distribution etc... Sway bars allow you to vary the percentage transferred

at either end of the car, generally the more weight you transfer at an end,

the less grip it has. A VW has %65 of the weight over its front wheels,

therefore in stock configuration most of the weight is transfered at the

front-onto the outside wheel which quickly becomes overloaded and starts to

slide. Factor in trying to get the power down and the understeer increases

even more. Increasing the size of the front bar just makes this problem

worse. The only mitigating factor is the bar does reduce suspension

compression, therefore keeping the camber in a more favorable area of the

curve. This is why people autocrossing in stock class, where the rules

prohibit any spring/ rear bar change find that a big bar actually improves

times. The front bar has another bad effect- it unloads the inside front

tire often resulting in wheelspin (especially in V6 cars)

On a street car a big front bar just makes the car feel worse than stock. A

rear swaybar increases weight tranfer at the back of the car (and reduces it

at the front) onto the outside wheel. This is desirable since the rear tire

is not doing much work (compared to the front). By reducing the load on the

front tire you increase available grip, and the car feels much more

balanced. For people who don't want to change springs the best setup for

street driving is a large rearbar in conjunction with the stock front bar.

This gives improved overall grip, and a much better "balance".

By improving the grip you are able to corner at a higher rate of speed,

which means more weight will tranfer, which means the outside front tire

will overload, which means it will slide= understeer again. To counteract

this weight transfer and compression of the suspension we supply stiffer

springs which control the roll. With less weight transfer you can corner

faster=more weight transfer= overloaded outside tires= need stiffer

springs=less weight tranfer= can corner faster=more weight

transfer=overloaded tire etc.. This continues until the springs are so

stiff that you you lose adhesion over bumps or you are lifting both inside

wheels

We choose our street springs to offer a good compromise between ride and

handling. This is not to say that stiffer springs will always handle

better, especially on the street where there are many bumps and tires offer

comparatively low adhesion. We try for a rate that allows good compliance

while limiting bodyroll to a minimum during street

where do you buy the white line anti roll bar kit it makes more sense than the jabba one to me

Awesome GTI do them. Think they got an offer on at the mo. PM AwesomeSarah and ask. She's a top lass and knows her stuff. She'll sort you out.

Mark

where do you buy the white line anti roll bar kit it makes more sense than the jabba one to me

You get what you pay for.

Decron is correct. The Jabba one is no doubt better made and probably does the job a bit better.

It just depends whether you will make use of it or not.

If you regularly do track days then Jabba is your only option IMO.

Since I dont, I went for the Whitline and I am more than pleased.