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Gearbox oil ... when to change ?


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#1 steve200

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 21:13

Hi guys.

Having decided that my skoda felicia is possibly the best car ive ever owned (to date), I would very much like to make it last as long as possible.

I take good care of all my cars and she is no exception:

Ive changed the spark plugs, coolant, 4 new tyres, battery, engine oil + filter every 5000miles, new pads and discs, got valve clearences spot on, and replaced airbox with an induction kit.

Left wheels standard for max MPG.

I have now turned my attention to the gearbox.

How often should you change the gearbox oil ???
... does it get dirty at all ???

#2 Psyzygy

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 21:58

40 000 miles according to Haynes (Maybe I should change mine twice, just to be sure ;)) G/box oil doesn't really get dirty as such, it's the contact with high temp & exhaust gasses that contaminates engine oil. After time, the high pressure additives break down in g/box oil, hence the need to change it, the only contaminants usually being minute particles of the synchro cones that wear slightly in normal operation. These are expelled when changing/draining the oil.

#3 steve200

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 22:05

Thanks Psyzygy! I know where the drain plug is, so ill get on and buy some fresh oil soon.

hope you get your spark issue sorted soon, sounds like a headache. :thumbup:

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 22:14

Flush the cooling system thoroughly and use g12+ lifetime coolant mixed 50:50 with de-ionised water, you'll need about 6 litres (3 litres of g12+). This will save you the effort of changing that until a problem occurs, like head gasket failure, radiator leak etc.

Haynes says to change the brake fluid every year (for the Favorit), but the Skoda manual says every 2 years. I think Haynes expects people to maybe take longer to do the things it says than they should.

I think a common problem with these cars is the linkage wearing out, so if you have a floppy kn0b (the gear one) it may benefit from an overhaul, but I think it's more a case of whether you can put up with it or not.

I have all the bits needed to overhaul my linkage (am considering getting the gear stick incase the ball joint is worn). Just need an entire day or so to get it up on the ramps and take it out. Prefereably with longer day light hours than at present. Can't seem to get anything done by getting up at crack of dawn, without it going dark at the moment.

Gear oil is £2.49 in Wilkinsons for 2 litres, but you need about 2.4 litres for a full re-fill.

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 09:16

Thanks Psyzygy! I know where the drain plug is, so ill get on and buy some fresh oil soon.

hope you get your spark issue sorted soon, sounds like a headache. :thumbup:



A word of warning, from long experience on many cars...

CHECK YOU CAN REFILL THE BOX before draining it!!!:(

Psyzygy is spot on though-40,000 miles is average:)

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 13:51

The Felly box is filled through the speedo drive hole and the drive itself is the dipstick...

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 13:56

The Felly box is filled through the speedo drive hole and the drive itself is the dipstick...



I know... and they can be a biaaatch to deal with when you have hands like shovels!

just trying to save steve200 the embarrasment:rofl:

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 14:00

Maybe he has "ladyhands" :rofl: (No offence Steve)

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 14:24

Maybe he has "ladyhands" :rofl: (No offence Steve)


oooh! driving gloves...

Suit you, sir:rofl:

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 15:12

The oil in the gearbox, need to be up to the gear on the speedo cable, just so it covers the gear.

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 15:17

A word of warning, from long experience on many cars...

CHECK YOU CAN REFILL THE BOX before draining it!!!:(

Psyzygy is spot on though-40,000 miles is average:)


If on some cars the facility to refill the gearbox is not provided, then surely the car manufacturer does not not believe it is necessary to change the gearbox oil ?

Otherwise a facility to refill the gearbox would be provided ?

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#12 Psyzygy

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 15:26

That would seem a bit odd if the oil comes out when the reverse light switch is removed... And if it's got a drain plug!

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 18:52

Steve needs to beware of the smell - its horrible - hold your breath!

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 19:18

Steve needs to beware of the smell - its horrible - hold your breath!


I'd read this before and it didn't seem all that bad to me. Not a great smell but not all that over-bearing get me outta here.

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 19:49

Left wheels standard for max MPG.


...however the right wheels are 19" alloys for 'cruzin' the tesco car park.


Anyway, it seems as though the solution would be to purchase a technically proficient nice smelling woman and enslave her until she agrees to change my oil, thus satisfying both smell and hand size criteria.

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 20:10

The smell is rancid for sure.

I changed my passat gearbox oil at 125k, and the improvement in slickness and smoothness of change was remarkable.

I'd only consider Quantum branded oil from your local Skoda/VW/Audi dealer. :)

#17 Psyzygy

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 21:13

...however the right wheels are 19" alloys for 'cruzin' the tesco car park.


Anyway, it seems as though the solution would be to purchase a technically proficient nice smelling woman and enslave her until she agrees to change my oil, thus satisfying both smell and hand size criteria.

:rofl: :thumbup::p

#18 steve200

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 21:49

it ok because i DO have little girl hands :saythat: :D

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 01:26

If on some cars the facility to refill the gearbox is not provided, then surely the car manufacturer does not not believe it is necessary to change the gearbox oil ?

Otherwise a facility to refill the gearbox would be provided ?

:confused:


I Meant that you should check that the refill hole/plug can be opened so that you don't end up wi a box that's drained,but can't be refilled.

Sorry if I wasn't clear:thumbup:

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 06:50

I love my Skoda Felicia too and will prob get the gear oil changed as it crunches gears sometimes.

My uncle drove my Felly whilst his Vectra 1.8 went in for a winter service, new front tyres and brake pads. My Uncle didn't like it that much saying the brakes felt weak and that the skoda badge lacks "prestige" when I said I'd replace my Felly with the Fabia VRs or an Octavia

Don't think he was driving it economically either as its just nudged 150 and its on a half tank.


But he has hi Vectra back now and my Skoda is no longer being "abused" :D

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 10:31

I love my Skoda Felicia too and will prob get the gear oil changed as it crunches gears sometimes.

My uncle drove my Felly whilst his Vectra 1.8 went in for a winter service, new front tyres and brake pads. My Uncle didn't like it that much saying the brakes felt weak and that the skoda badge lacks "prestige" when I said I'd replace my Felly with the Fabia VRs or an Octavia

Don't think he was driving it economically either as its just nudged 150 and its on a half tank.


But he has hi Vectra back now and my Skoda is no longer being "abused" :D


The only prestige a Vectra has is that most people who drive them are Sales reps or uninsured ch*vs.

Sure skoda doesn't have much prestige, but FFS man, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. In this instance a Vectra is definitely a glass house.

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 15:26

True.
When he bought it off the garage he gets his car serviced at it was an ex courtesy/rental car changing from a M plate Cavalier

(A 51 Reg Vectra 1.8 LS by the way) befor the "square lights" model
Been in a front end shunt and you could tell it was repaired.
Was back in that garage quite a few times after as the a/c didnt work and some other minor things. everything works now but the engine still sounds "gruff"

Just bought after I got my Skoda and he thinks he got it cheap.
I have driven said Vectra and I didn't like it as the Cav felt better imo.
In fact the 1.8l Ecotec engine may be the cars best feature!
He wants a Merc next. :rolleyes:
His main arguement being Girls don't like Skodas
Granted a "Skoda" badge doesnt have that much prestige compared to other brands. But quite a few girls on here like and drive Skodas ;)

A little off topic! but there you go

#23 richardsfavorit

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 19:04

Rubbish that girls don't like skodas - my ex never minded mine, and my mates ex wanted to drive his alot (Felicia Fun)! My sister has had two and loves the Felicia 1.6!!

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 23:15

tindocat has some photos to prove that the birds love the felly!

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 23:24

It's the man, not the machine and we all know that Skoda driving men are REAL men :D

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Posted 21 December 2007 - 16:28

It's the man, not the machine


Going by your car history, you must really believe it:eek:

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Posted 21 December 2007 - 16:31

Going by your car history, you must really believe it:eek:


Apparantly you haven't seen tha latest news? The girls of East Midlands might have gone unmolested lately, but now he's up and running again...:D

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Posted 21 December 2007 - 16:38

Apparantly you haven't seen tha latest news? The girls of East Midlands might have gone unmolested lately, but now he's up and running again...:D



Just replied to it! we need to find somewhere else to postwhore...

:D

I have to say though that I fear that ladeeys running in the east midlands should be able to dodge him.. spi aint the way forward:rofl:

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Posted 25 December 2007 - 21:42

My Uncle didn't like it that much saying the brakes felt weak and that the skoda badge lacks "prestige" when I said I'd replace my Felly with the Fabia VRs or an Octavia


I'm beginning to think the soft brake pedal is a Skoda trait. But slam your foot to the floor and the brakes are definitely there :)

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Posted 25 December 2007 - 23:41

I'm beginning to think the soft brake pedal is a Skoda trait. But slam your foot to the floor and the brakes are definitely there :)



:)If you've got VW rear drum brakes [which every Skoda with rear drums from and including the Mk2 Favorit does] and you want a better, firmer brake pedal try this:

Slacken both handbrake cables right off [2 10mm nuts under the lever]. Remove rear drums, knock down the adjuster wedges [that are meant to adjust automatically but never do] till the drum just fits over the shoes. Obviously while the drums are off check the shoes, cylinders, springs and clean out the dust ect. Refit drums, reset cables and try the pedal and handbrake lever. You'll find that the cables won't need to be tightened as much, the handbrake will be better, and best of all the pedal will be firmer. Don't overdo it and end up with binding rear brakes though.:thumbup:

Basically it's pretty rare for any automatic shoe adjusters to work, no matter which make or model!;)




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