OK I have read alot of the posts and think I have the answer or well on the way but,....
After 4 days of heavy rain and not using the car I attempted to do a 25 mile journey and halfway had to stop as something was not right, it trned out the OSF wheel was well hot , too hot to touch and the front wheel when jacked up was hard to turn, brake caliper sticking right! Well after 139K the week before the car passed the mot but i had a low front pad advisory so bought some new disks and pads , i just attempted to do the job but it started raining hard and I had to reassemble the old parts I could not quite get the outside pad in propelry it appered to be a very tight fit, even the old pad was a bitch to get in and was seized in that position , I cleaned up the sliders and they looked smooth , the carrier was tight and the piston moved back but not quite enough to get the new pads on the old disk, so i probbaly needed a few more mm of piston movement .
I guess when i do the NSF I will answer my own question but should the outside pad be a smooth fit in the slider or does it just sit there tight , I have experience with MTB , motorbike brakes and expect its the former. If so any ideas why the problem has arose , I admit to not doing any brake maintenance in the past but why should the carrier suddenly change shape, could it be it warped slightly from the heat , the sliders were removed from the carrier and the carrier cleaned with a wire brush removing some surface rust but it still looks useable , mmm confused!!!!
Thanks guys , great forum and appreciate any advice ......I changed the rear disks at about 110k and they appear fine.