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Ah, I see, thanks for clarification. Tesla trip computer never counts stuff outside of driving. 4 mi/kWh is more like it. If they were using sentry mode or doing anything that keeps the car awake, it will use energy. Even opening the door will fire up the AC. I drove in congested for very few miles but sat in the car waiting one whole morning, it used more than double what trip computer said. When there is no pressure to innovate, the products made available by the encumbent stagnates, the market can only buy what is available. Thus the market cannot be always right. Now when there are pressure from government and far east, we get this kind of shenenigan from established players: 2021 blame chip crisis: Vauxhall Motors: 100 Luton jobs to go due to chip crisis - BBC News 2023 blame Brexit: Fears for Vauxhall Luton van plant's future due to Brexit - BBC News 2024 blame EV's: Vauxhall's Luton plant to close with fears over 1,100 jobs as production moved - Mirror Online Can we really trust the root cause is their latest blame victim? This view that people don't want them is not right though. Even now, Skoda doesn't have sub £25k EV. Ford, who recently asked for handouts, are just making rebadged mid-size VW SUV's. The available models are still not across every company's full product stack, people cannot buy the EV in the size and shape they prefer or they used to buy. So it's a bit early to say the market has decided when the availble products cannot fully satisfy every segment of the market. Main dealers are also not doing their job. It is hardly a difficult bit of computer-eering to create a sales system that pushes a certain type of vehicle. Customer; 'I want that large ICE car'. Dealer; 'Sorry, sir, we have no allocation today for that vehicle, but I can put you on a list. I cannot promise when you might get an allocation. Or you can have that similar sized EV, it is available today.' Customer; 'Meh. OK, I'll take the EV, I was thinking about one, anyway, you've made the decision for me.' Dealer; 'A good decision, sir! You will be pleased with it, I am sure.' I don't believe main dealers are having this sort of conversation.

Tesla have said they will keep V2/V3 open and upgrade payment system (to comply with regulation): Source seems credible, the person is in charge of Tesla Supercharging northern Europe. Hopefully that means replacing the short cables with V4.

Yep, that's the direction with cars. Debatable whether it's a good thing or not. When it all works it works beautifully, thankfully I've not personally experienced any failures in any area. But I'm always willing to spend more to buy into the best software ecosystem: Tesla, Apple (phones), nVidia (computer graphics card), DJI (drones), Steam (handhold gaming), etc.

So electricity also use computer words now? 🤣 I “downloaded” 35 kWh according to Octopus app, adding 4 half hour segments on usage graph, data from smart meter via Octopus home mini CAD. Blue car up by 20% 7.4 kW charge point Red car up by 50% via 5 kW V2H Battery up by 55% Also done dish washer and oven clean cycle. Max EV charger allowed was 19.5 kW before it de-rating itself. So when oven turns on it slowed momentarily.

35 mpg, why is it so bad? Similarly, only 2.6 mi/kwh in the Model Y? Are they driving like racing drivers all the time? Let’s be brutally honest, over those 1000 miles, the 10min refuel time is no where near enough of comfort breaks. The realistic way is to record all comfort breaks for solo car driver, taking it as best case scenarios. Comparison should be made whether driving an EV made the trip longer, if so how much is due to charging.

That's great, more charging options. Also, nice site, I didn't know about this site! Interestingly the V4, Tottenham service centre on N Circular, has disappeared off the charge-other-EV screen. It was rammed with taxi (initially lots of e-niro, later ID4 and Mercs) every time I drove past. I guess they are actively tweaking demands and the rumour about closing off are not true.

By my calculation: - Blue car: 14 kWh - Red car: 9 kWh - Home bat: ~8 kWh ~30 kWh for free, stored for later use. May run a dishwasher clean cycle this time, done the washing machine last time. I was just thinking it'd be good to have one such session to measure temperature on the electricity wiring after battery install to ensure everything is safe when everything were drawing their maximum (7 + 5 + 5 kW). 70 amps out of 100 amps 🥵

Haha. I do find a full setting blast initially helps with (p)leather seats on both cars. The big blue one has auto setting, and slowly dials back bum heat until cabin reaching temperature, perfect. Tyres are everything. I don't get why UK doesn't switch to only fit all-season tyres on cars now. There's new Hankook ion all-season for EV's I see people fitting on their MY on UK Tesla forum. Seems to fit better than CC2 on Tesla wheels, slightly less stretched look and a bit more rim protection.

How's my efficiency yesterday 0 c around here. Sat in the car pretty much the whole morning as I taxi around my wife to different shops. The net is when it is out of Park, not sure why it's always slight worse than in-car display, the gross is all energy used divide by distance.

Clean energy generation and transmission installs must be put up. "Not In My Back Yard" (NIMBY) mentality is stopping progress. Your story is a valid reason for NIMBY at extreme close proximity to wind turbine. Octohere is presenting the other side of arguement where infrastructure install and discruption are necessary for model lives.

Hopefully things like Octopus Fan Club will kerb NIMBY-sm. A breezy bargain: Octopus launches first ever offshore ‘Fan Club’ tariff | Octopus Energy

In 10 years time (end of 2034, not 2030), you can still buy a brand new vehicle that is re-energised in exact same way as you do now, at petrol station. Probably will have similar amount of range. So government policy is not forcing everyone who drives to change their behaviour in the next 10 years for brand new vehicles, or next 20 years for people who buy used. EV right now isn't for everyone. Who is to say EV in 10 years time won't be? Do you have a crystal ball?

Was it charging overnight? Li-on prefers around 10-30c, lower = worse performance, higher = more degradation.

EV may also need number plate heater 🤣

Hum so 250-300 miles. ICE drivers' sentiment here seems to suggest that's not enough range. 😜

Would you call USB 2 high speed these days? Would you call 7 kW fast charging? Unfortunately names become non-descriptive as tech moves on. Giving a moving number names are destined to fail. Just call it what it is, 50 kW DC is perfect I think, keep it simple. Then as we move beyond 150 kW voltage will come into play as charging capability depend on vehicle. So something like 400v 500a might be better. For example 350 kW Ionity are limited to just over 400 amps, so 400v Tesla max out at 180 kW on it. Whilst Korean cars can do over 280 kW on 800v chargers but max out below 200 kW on Tesla 400v 250kW capable Superchargers. Speaking of which, Tesla have just announced V4 cabinets which will 800v charging at speed of 500 kW. So those 800v cars can benefit at locations they are installed. 250 kW for 400v cars. Updated design also focused on faster & cheaper deployment, hopefully we'll see more of them everywhere.

This is on PlugShare map with "pull-through" and 50+ kW filter applied: It is missing South Mimms, so there's more out there. Of course, it's not dense enough and there are areas of countryside that is a complete desert (Wales).

I've regularly seen lots of pull-through charging by Tesla and Ionity in Norway by Bjorn. Gridserve forecourt are also mostly petrol station style when space permits. (unsure if Gatwick one is pull through, it's space constrained there) Newer installs at motorway services are at middle of the car park, allowing pull through. I've seen them at South Mimms, one of midlands service on my way up, I'm sure there are more.

As the saying goes, 80% of statistics are made up on the spot. Also, AI answers are not to be trusted. For London, many will happily use public transport and car share schemes. So it is very reasonable to say that the percentage of household that actually need driveway for EV charging is lower than driveway statistics (whatever it is) suggest. Extend this thinking to whole country, many flats are located in city centres where car ownership is often not necessary. Of course, as you can all clearly see, same as my previous post, my assumptions are all stated and wording are carefully considered so that it is in no way can be read as factual. Unlike some other poster.

How many people without driveways actually drive EV's? Are those without driveway a minority or majority within the EV driving population? Thus currently most EV drivers do charge at home. Finance dictates people's behaviour. No one who can charge at home will go and do public charging. Even for free, rapid charging weekly is just not convenient, wastes time. The door handle is no problem after freezing rain. Just turn on pre conditioning and press the smaller side a few times. The smaller side can be pressed in a tiny bit for breaking the ice on the larger bit. https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_tw/GUID-F907200E-A619-4A95-A0CF-94E0D03BEBEF.html In my experience, I've had more problem opening ICE car door than EV's due to no way to precondition. Ice build up on the door seals for all cars. The green wrapped Model S plaid has many problems from day 1, it's a lemon. Totally agree, stop thinking the petrol station model. EV batteries are an asset to grid with renewables, need to get people into the mindset that a parked EV not plugged in is a wasted resource.

Some V2/V3 are open to all. For example all of Scotland ones above the Glasgow/Edinburgh belt. Octohere regularly charges at a V3 from his photos. All V4 are open to all. Sounds like V2/V3 will revert back to Tesla only avoid this regulation, which is rumoured to happen before year end. https://www.speakev.com/threads/first-tesla-v4-superchargers-in-uk.179536/page-31?post_id=3688531#post-3688531

You might be waiting a while..... most EV owners can charge at home. There's still 10 years to go though. So it's not a really a worry for now. Now is about the time you only put in concentrated screen wash. I start in September just to be safe. Then only switch to summer mix ratio in March-ish time. Tesla vehicles actually have a "heated wiper park" button. I always turn it on when it gets slightly cold. Can't see anything happening even when snowing, but never had frozen stuttery blade. https://teslanorth.com/2022/02/10/tesla-model-3-y-heated-wiper-park-heats-up-to-100f-shows-test/ It says: "Proprietary networks that open their charge points for public use will have one year from the date that the charge point becomes public to offer contactless." I wonder if by not opening or even closing V2/V3 to other EV, Those old Tesla locations doesn't fall under this regulation?

Gotta have that foresight to have driveway as a hard requirement when moving (2014 last moved, EV was already a thing, it's hard). Also play the market, both in financial and energy. I must acknowledge currently EV have a vast difference in experience between those who have driveway and those who don't. This is obvious. But at the very least I am sharing my real world experience, and it is easy to replicate for those who have. Unlike some people who only parrot other people without any real world experience.

£67 credit on Electroverse Over £400 in credit with Octopus Energy Over 55,000 points on Octopoints (equivalent to £68) May be I should start using expensive electricity (aka public charging) to make those numbers go down a bit Or decrease my direct debit further down from £50 to £30 per month. Winter gas bill will probably use up most of the credit, I really ought to get a heat pump........ The truth with Tesla ownership is that I just don't use public charging at all. This car has only seen 1 non Tesla CCS in Portree. I do charge at AC destination chargers if they are price competitive though, this is the power with EV: they can charge while parked, effortlessly ready for the next drive.

Correct. Tesla LR vehicles with NMC recommend charging to 80% and standard vehicles use LFP does not have this recommendation. But NMC battery can charge and discharge faster than LFP for higher performance and dual motor applications. Also weighs less for better overall vehicle feel. LFP have a very flat mid band voltage, ideal for longevity but battery management perceived state-of-charge will drift over time. So LFP vehicles actually have recommendation to charge to 100% every week (or is it month?) for calibration. NMC have a completely linear voltage to state-of-charge correlation, so could go many months without touching extremes. May be a 100% charge once a year to ensure cells are completely balanced. As with all things in engineering, there's trade offs. Of course, the 80% thing is only a recommendation, the end user could charge NMC to 100% all day every day and manufacturer will still honour warranty. It is may only add small amount of accelerated degradation. If it really affects degradation to trigger warranty, manufacturer wouldn't putting it as a recommendation.