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It is true. Dumb chargers to become illegal to sell at end of this month. The main goal is to sell chargers that delay a random amount of time to start charging so the grid doesn't get hit by thousands of EV all start charging when off-peak time starts. This makes sense, but it drives up cost of chargers. I've been trying to get hold of a 7kW untethered dumb EV charger for my parents' new house for ages without any success. The price to install nowadays is shocking, was quoted £1100 for a standard install Rolec, just before the £350 grant ended. Now we've decided to just install an outdoor 3-pin regular socket for my Leaf's granny charger. Hopefully in 2-3 years time when they get an EV, charger install cost will come down. My EV charger was free for 3.6kW or £99 for 7kW, thanks to Nissan contribution. It's smart in the sense I can fully control it in their app or in Home Assistant. it's not latest standard of smart as per gov guidelines where it reduces charging according to home load or do the random delayed start.

Another analogy is perhaps BBQ: charcoal vs gas vs electric? Similar to manual petrol vs auto diesel vs EV? We still have a charcoal BBQ, it's smoky and slow to get going. Getting it going and finding hot spots is part of the experience (also burnt food). We have also recently bought an electric smoke-less indoor grill. Although I personally think it's great and food from it is 90% there, my wife (who's a foodie) dismisses it as a fake imitation of cooking on coal. Exactly this. EV's should not be seen as death to ICE by enthusiasts, it should be seen as a way to filter out the everyday and elevate the hobby into something more recognised and organised. Each to their own, I think many car enthusiasts will have this mindset. And I think it's absolutely okay to not love a white good

Very nice analogy. Each to their own. I own a really nice auto-winding full mechanical Omega, and smart watches. I can see the attraction of those watches, it's very nice bit of kit. But ultimately functionality of smart watches won me over from very early Pebble smart watch to Apple watch now. You could say I'm a tech-head. My hobby are in PC gaming, VR gaming, home automation and photography. Did you say fridges? Now let me talk about all the things I'm researching on heat pumps and home battery For automatic gearboxes, it was absolutely fine when driven with moderation and with it in mind. But ever since gotten used to driving EV, my right foot no longer have any filter, I expect the car to behave the exactly reflect my right foot. That means I have many times forgot to account for gearbox downshift (and with DSG, very slow down shift 2 gears a few times from cruising at 50mph) when trying to slip into faster lane. This usability deficit became frustrating and thus developed into my undesirable to drive it (among other things such as running cost).

The only thing I associate with ICE is 2000's Top Gear. But soon after I passed my driving test, I got fed up changing gears in traffic and started driving automatics. Now I associate ICE with loud, vibration, slow to react and polluting. The first few points are especially obvious when jumping between EV and Octy 2.0 TDI DSG, a great motorway cruiser, shame about the DSG...... I loath driving it every single time on local roads, now only ever use it for long trips until I can change to a modern long-range EV (Tesla Model Y on order). EV, on the other hand, I love the feeling driving it. Mainly the effortless instant and non-stop torque and refinement from lack of noise/vibration. It just feels like I am directly controlling the car. This may reads like blasphemy, but I'm really looking forward to ever increasing levels of autonomy with cars. I heavily rely on ACC whenever possible. So do I love EV's or its powertrain? No. I'm staying in a Skoda forum because I found there are like-minded people who want to save money while motoring. So I suspect you may get a different answer on a car enthusiast forum, less people that thinks like me, where more people may see maintaining mechanical parts of cars as a hobby and EV are totally closed off blackboxes.

Is that 33 miles to and then 33 miles back? I call BS on not able to do 33 miles. I regularly do 58 miles return trip as my commute in a 7.5 years old first-gen Leaf. Leaf came out in 2011, my one is a 2014, but still 24 kWh battery.

Excellent counter video, unlike the TEDx talk, this one contains many data source references, just as a factual based video should be. This video talks about how the TEDx speaker has a vested interest in fossil fuel, how the speaker appeals to common believes built up by other fossil fuel FUD, and also looked at the horrible stats presented in the TEDx talk. Someone works at institute for fossil fuel and getting paid by the fossil fuel giants is giving talks to convince you to continue relying on that stuff? Hum.... 2020's version of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt

205/55 R16 is the way. After I bought my Octavia with 18 inch OEM wheels from private seller. I rang around a few dealers asking if they want to swap out their 16 inch wheels on their advertised cars for the upgraded 18 inch. No one was interested......

You have to remember there's 2 types of charging, and due to their vastly different use-cases, overstay are different: - Destination charging: they are like car parks, it would be nice for people to move their car, but there shouldn't be an expectation. This is sometimes free, but at train stations, for example, it is unrealistic to expect people to move. - En-route rapid charging: they are like petrol station pumps, but only needed when driving en-route beyond regular home range of your EV. They MUST NOT be blocked and people are expected to move their car as soon as they have enough juice (not charge all the way to full, depend on their car). In these instances, people are expected to stay nearby and sometimes expensive overstay fee apply. It is unfortunate many single rapid charger are installed at random locations, making them pointless. I try to plan my en-route charging around rapid charging hubs, where queues, blockage or broken charger are not much of an issue.

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Too long, won't read version: Totally false graph made up to promote his narrative. Tesla Model 3 has around 300 miles of range. "The manufacturing process of a Model 3 currently results in slightly higher GHG emissions than an equivalent combustion engine vehicle. However, based on the global weighted average grid mix, a Model 3 has lower lifetime emissions than an equivalent ICE after driving 5,340 miles." https://www.tesla.com/ns_videos/2020-tesla-impact-report.pdf Based on that graph, 400 miles EV manufacturing is equivalent to around after 120k miles. How is there such a HUGE difference between the data? That is because the EV 400 miles starting point is calculated based on extrapolation from 125 miles range EV (looks like 13t for shorter range EV - 5t for conventional = 8t difference, multiply by (400/125=) 3.2 distance factor to get 25.6t). But the truth is that the 125 miles range EV data is also false or based on very outdated data. This article (a very quick google for "battery electric vehicle lifetime emission cumulative graph", no biased wording) claims 6t for conventional ICE car and 10t for a "new Nissan Leaf in 2019", I'd take that was the ~150 miles 40 kWh variant. Somehow, this graph is now showing EV emits less lifetime-CO2 after just 2 years. https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/electric-cars-vehicles-transport-emissions-carbon-footprint-public-transportation/132958/ One has to remember there is a HUGE amount of variation for manufacturing data. For example, Volvo paper https://www.volvocars.com/images/v/-/media/market-assets/intl/applications/dotcom/pdf/c40/volvo-c40-recharge-lca-report.pdf This paper presents ICE to have initial carbon footprint of ~16t, vastly different all other data we've seen. Whilst the 400 miles EV starting value does look close to Volvo's data, but the ICE one isn't. Volvo's paper also doesn't say how are their batteries for the EV are sourced, whether it is made in factory powered by renewables, etc. (we know Tesla uses renewables to power their factories). And that's only analysing the manufacturing emissions, starting points on the graph. A quick glance at lifetime emission near the end, we also see massive differences between all sources, including the fossil fuel one, which you'd think should be very similar. So considering the whole argument from the TED talk presenter is based on that single graph, but gave no references to sources and thus it is probably fabricated to fit his narrative. I would not trust anything coming out of this man. That is, ignoring the elephant in the room, following along with 400 miles EV narrative. We don't need equivalent range for batteries-on-wheels that we could be recharge whenever it is parked, over 80% of a regular car's lifetime is parked up. MUST BE green hydrogen. All other "colours" are completely pointless.

Totally agree, for some unknown reason, people (mainly Chargemaster/Polar/Pulse (same company)) seems to think plunk down a rapid charger middle of nowhere is okay. Mid-journey rapid charger hubs really need to be built like petrol stations, for example: Gridserve forecourt https://www.gridserve.com/2020/12/06/gridserve-opens-uks-first-electric-forecourt/ For slow charging, it'll be same as regular car park, I don't see any need for worry. Dwell time at those locations will be minimum, very little difference to currently.

Thanks, registered. Looks like it covers all the networks I don't have accounts with. Though it would be better to declare that you also get £15 refill payment, I'd always declare any benefits I'd get if other people use my referral code.

Whereas Golf R with 4s acceleration is "just" £42k. If we are just looking at performance numbers as justification against mass adoption of EV's, it doesn't really make any sense. There's always faster cars and slower cars. Only difference is that EV's can apply the torque instantly so it feels quicker off the line. Mach E is ridiculously expensive for a Ford on non EV platform.......

Just like e-scooter trial at eye watering £1 to unlock and 15p a minute! I have recently bought a second hand one for £130, that's equivalent to 20 odd 30min goes on rented ones, 10 days of commute on it gets you a second hand one that's less beat up. No wonder commuter still prefers to risk getting caught. But anyway, I digress. Acceleration numbers doesn't really distract from their main purpose: to transition transport to renewable energy. You have to remember, just like standard hundreds of 1.6l Golf vs 1 Golf R on the road, you won't get standard Enyaq/ID3's with that kind of power. The headline 3s acceleration numbers on this Ford truck is also the special expensive edition. Nothing have really changed in that aspect. Not everyone is going to be driving around in 3s cars. But if you can't beat them, join them. If you switch to an electric bike, however......

Turning you off buying a product for you to use responsibly, base on the off chance it may be mis-used by other people? Sorry, I don't follow your logic. Agree 3T truck doesn't need this level of performance. It's show-off for show-off sake.

It's a Ford, but it's not at Ford prices. Though better than the Mach-E. Where is our £10k Fiasta EV's? If they hadn't killed the Focus EV and given up on EV in early 2010's because "there's no demand". Typical Ford: It's run by number crunchers and let's not forget "Safety doesn't sell" https://faculty.ksu.edu.sa/sites/default/files/ford_pinto_ethical_case_study_apr16_16.pdf

Thanks for that. Here's a list in case anyone needs it: https://www.speakev.com/threads/tesla-opening-uk-super-chargers-to-all-from-today.169485/ Adderstone NE70 7JU Aviemore PH22 1PN Dundee DD2 5JT Manchester Trafford Centre M17 8AA Flint Mountain CH6 5QG Aberystwyth SY23 3TL Banbury OX16 1LX Wyboston MK44 3AL Trumpington CB2 9FT Thetford IP24 3TP Wokingham RG41 5DG Uxbridge UB8 1QJ Thurrock RM20 2ZP Folkstone Eurotunnel Terminal CT18 8XX Would be interesting to see if there are going to be problems with cars blocking Tesla cars from charging when busy. I'm glad I've only spent £100 for a reservation rather than just bought a Tesla now. I'm going to wait and see feedback before deciding whether to splash out on a MY. I've asked them to delay until I can get a German built one anyway, I'm aiming for 4680 battery car. Otherwise other brands are looking pretty good now.

Out of interest, after 30min, what was your car's state of charge? How fast was it charging for the second 30 minutes? Could it have achieved similar on a nearby AC post after initial 30min rapid? I understand it's still early days and you may need close to 100% to get to next charger. But one has to remember many cars at near top SoC will slow down by a lot, possibly wasting other people's time. End of the day, as I've always said, a time-based fee structure will throw the whole argument out of the window. It works for everyone in all cars without arbitrary limits. People waiting and people charging are fully aware of the costs of overstaying beyond the fastest charging period of the car. Everyone is treated equal for the amount of time they spend on the rapid chargers. I would argue in that case, the EV isn't suitable if they can't charge at home or the EV can't charge at faster rate. Sitting around for an hour every single day waiting for charge is totally wasteful of a working resource.

Well, rapid is means rapid charging. After 30min most EV's would be near 80%, enough to drive on to next charger. Taxi are problematic, they sit on chargers during their break to get as high SoC as possible, charging very slowly a lot of the time. I, for one, like the 30min max stay. It makes splash and dash a lot easier.

I can't find anything on this, mainly interested in Applegreen pricing and payment method. Also MFG putting in eight 150kW chargers on A10 at "Buntingford, Herts just off Ermine Street (A10). " https://www.speakev.com/threads/mfg-new-chargers-at-buntingford.169104/ Makes possible to drive my Leaf to Royston or Cambridge

There is no consistency. Some EV charging spots are marked with different colour paint, some are marked with no parking slashes, some only have signs up top. So it's understandable people thought the slash lines are for charging. But instead of shaming drivers ignorant behaviours, we, as EV drivers, should really push for chargers absolutely everywhere. That means no more dedicated EV bays if they can blanket the whole car park with minimum of each charging post (2 sockets) in the middle of 4 parking spots. Everyone wins.

Ah okay, You must have mentioned this and I forgot there are 7kW posts nearby. Agree if going to park for a long period of time, use the slowest charging method.

That looks like a 22kW AC charging posts, I don't see any problem using it as parking spot...... I see this as improvement, from mis-use (a couple posts above) to ideal usage. It is on the rapid chargers that people must move on as soon as finished charging. It doesn't help to have rapid chargers built into parking spaces, next to AC chargers in a car park. No different signage or marking. These days multiple rapid chargers should be built like petrol stations forecourt.

I'm always happy to pay for high availability, but 2 chargers is no longer enough to use for planned stops these days. As mentioned, only installing chargers is not ideal. They need to start installing batteries alongside chargers. I'm happy to pay the same or even higher price to support more battery infrastructure as batteries can help the grid, whereas sole rapid chargers are a large burden on the grid. Also sites with batteries tend to have more rapid charger installed, which increases chance to get quick charge. So Instavolt's recent price increase meant they need to evolve into a battery powered hub-like business model to get my money. Like the past year, I'll continue to plan my stops at sites with as many chargers as possible. Single or 2 rapid charger locations are the very last resort for me.

It is the same thing. My 2013 water pump also failed and started leaking, Skoda dealer basically said to pay Skoda's fixed timing belt + water pump price of £489 at the time. That was late 2017, so my timing belt is due replacement by end of this year if according to Skoda's 5 yr recommendation. Something I don't plan to do as it has seen such low mileage (<40k). It'll only need to last until end of this year when it will be sold on, eagerly awaiting my Model Y.