Aspman

I think that seems to be the same for any top flight sportsperson. You might think you're good, you might even be top 5% good, but then one of these guys comes out and you look like a toddler playing with toys

Those are bad greens. I'm finding the front less offensive as time goes on. But still offensive.

Well considering that in general a 50yr old Porsche is worth far more than it's purchase price I would suggest to the HP company that a 50yr 0% plan is, in fact, a safe bet so to speak. they may make you give them the car back in your will but tbh I think that might be a fair compromise.

Saw a few Disco 5's at lunctime today. God they have a fat arse on them now. Ruling that out on aesthetics. Range Rover Disco 5 Wrangler 4dr Toyota Landcruiser

Ford Wildtrak is allegedly much better to drive everyday. I've not driven a Hilux so can't compare. Pickup is out because the pickup bed just isn't practical without a fair bit spent on accessories. In my head the current list of things to try - Range Rover Disco 5 Wrangler 4dr Toyota Landcruiser This will vary from minute to minute. Also looking into A6 allroad, Merc E400 All terrain but the former is overpriced and the latter rare as hens teeth. VW Toureg was looking promising for a bit but they've gone and removed all the off-road gear from the current line up (diff locks etc)

Maybe you've already got the best compromise? you have a large comfortable capable car in your Superb and maybe you should continue to invest in the best camping gear you can afford? @Jars if you did all the conversion work on the interior pictures that's some outstanding work

If it's your dream then you shouldn't give up on it At some point the market will get saturated and prices will normalise again but they've always been expensive. They do hold their money so you would get a large portion back when you sell but it's locked up until then.

same at Ford in Edinburgh last week. Only spaces were disabled and this was 1pm on a Friday Hundreds of used cars on the forecourt though Jeep is offering 'free' redundancy insurance on new cars

Argh, kill the marketing people kill 'em all

I have to say the idea of a campervan often fadesaway when you look into the costs. They are very expensive. And when you park up in a site, if you want to go anywhere you have to unhook everything unless you have a smart car or motorbike on the back. The costs of a Motorhome add up to a lot of hotel rooms, and someone else cleans the bog in them. Also right now is probably the worst time in history to buy a motorhome. Demand is sky high with everyone wanting their own covid-free space on holiday. What about a Tentbox for a car?

Found this the other day Nogging the Mog https://www.unimogs.co.uk/our-stock/unimogs/noggin-the-mog-ex-military-u1300l-expedition-camper-noggin-the-mog-ex-military-u1300l-expedition-camper-u0388 they've also got a ridiculous £185k expedition camper for sale https://www.unimogs.co.uk/our-stock/unimogs/u4000-luxury-expedition-truck-u4000-luxury-expedition-truck-b3309 Less ridiculously If you're handy, my Dad's pal has converted several second hand ambulances into campers. Husband of a pal converts T5 vans into campers.

I quite like this but I'm not sure the 22" alloys and farm tracks will really mix https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006079880779 Jaguar F-Pace 2020 (20 reg) 5.0 V8 Supercharged (550PS) SVR 5dr

Shooting isn't new to me, so I know I like it. I'm up for a change of vehicle anyway. And this is just a lighhearted discussion and to see if anything pops up that I've not thought of. I'm not really relying on the internet to make my mind up about anything.

https://farm.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/claas/tractors/202008052116683

Ok so I think we're narrowing things down at home. We don't really want a 3rd car and definitely not a big one. So 3rd car options are probably down at terios as cheap and little. So concentrating on the replacment for the BMW. Things to try - I was looking at the new (ish) Jeep Wrangler 4 door. It ticks a lot of boxes, but the NCAP is awful, and it has lots of irritating quirks (lots of things to bang your elbows on) but is fun and very good off road (at least in the Rubicon trim) and not as awful onroad. It's also a convertable which could be a laugh on sunny days and SO isn't horrified by it on that front. Petrol is thirsty but about as fast as my old VRS Used RR. Expensive but probably a very nice place to be. Name your price on them really. SO likes these unsurprisingly. Land Cruiser not as crazy expensive as the RR but better built. Might bore me to death though as it's slow as a slow thing I'm not against spending a bit of money on something decent but I'd rather it wasn't worth buttons after 3yr

What about a Rav4 with decent tyres. IT's got an electronic locking diff

the only issue with some of those options is the size. I'm not sure I want sone for my main car and I'm pretty sure I don't want some huge barge taking up all the space. I think I need to keep trying stuff.

I have looked around for Panda but they seem to be in the "rocking horse doo-doo" level of availability. I'm not sure they'd have the ground clearance either. Haven't looked for the Secici tbh. SX$ much cheaper than Jimny. Vitara might be an option.

Cars are funny things. When you drive them your perception changes. Not quite the same league but back in 2002 I did not like the Ford Focus. I thought it was a weird blobby car. Then I drove one and I was so impressed by how nice it was (I had a Mk3 Vauxhall astra) that all of a sudden I quite liked the car. Maybe the M4 will be like that. Or maybe it's just too ****ing ugly for anyone normal to love

TBH it's not awful but it lacks class. BMW seem to be pandering to those with money but not taste. Which as a business makes total sense, however, as someone who will probably never buy one of those cars I'm grossly offended.

I think they are known to be pretty reliable and well made. The complaints come when you do have problems as parts sometimes have to come from Japan and they are expensive. I knew someone with a Legacy (lovely car btw) and when his wing mirror was smashed to bits it was over £1k for a replacement. My mates car is some oddball performance version and came with an active exhaust. When it went he couldn't replace it, since the part was from some Subaru skunkworks (can't remember the name). So now he's got a non active exhaust which works fine but he's sad to lose the noise. Efficient they are not. All scoobies like a drink. I think it's one of those car brands, if it scratches your itch you'll probably be a Subaru driver forever.

I should pop in, Port Edgar is only 20min away.

Bit of a car quandry right now. I have been invited into the world of field sports. I'm getting licensed for a boom stick and will need to buy various green coloured bits of clothing (but not cammo that's uncouth). Getting to the shooting spots involves a bit of off-roading. Not Rubicon trail extreme off roading but some fairly poor farm tracks. Certainly nothing the BM or the Mini could handle. the 335d has just been serviced, full set of brakes, Aircon recharge and is going totally fine at just under 60k. It does everything I need except skip down a farm track. I can either get a cheap 3rd 4x4 car or I can spend a bit more and get a 4x4 as my main car. I don't really want a 3rd car but neither do I really want a 4x4 as my daily driver. Car swap - I considered getting something interesting like the new Ford Ranger Raptor. I actually drove a Ranger Wildtrack on a demo at the weekend. It was surprisingly decent. Quite car like and the acceleration was ok. I could live with it as a car probably. Downside was that a flatbed might be good for lugging bails of hay but not so good for a week's shopping at Tesco. I could look into used Range Rover or Discoveries since they could be a pleasent enough family car as well as handling a rough track. Downside is they are fearsome exensive unless ancient, and hardly have the best reputation for reliability. The new Defender is crazy expensive. Other things like Landcruisers or Shoguns might just feel too boring inside and out to live with. Soft roaders are no use, we'll go thorugh a lot of mud so a locking diff is a must 3rd car - Jimny - not that cheap, not that reliable, not that great in mud apparently Terios - cheap, nasty to drive. TBH a 4x4 Terios is probably top of my list for a 3rd car despite being the worst car I've ever driver Jeep Wrangler - Rare at low prices. Would actually be quite fun to go to the beach in as well. Old Defender - expensive, unreliable money pit bt a classic and probably won't lose much money Unimog - Might need to get a truck license Just lookisng for thoughts or suggestions

If it's good enough for a Zonda....

Honestly you shouldn't make a big purchase without seeing and driving. Now we did late last year put a deposit on a car without having seen it. But we knew exactly what we wanted (the JCW countryman) and there were very few in the UK at that time. Also this was an ex-demo car with very low miles and a verbal guarantee that the car was mint inside and out (it was) We still drove it before signing. any other used car, I just think it's too much of a risk.