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Just read that VW are introducing a football, score app, to allow you to keep up with the game while on the move, I find it astonishing that VAG can find the time for Their software engineers to develop this app when they cannot get their current software to work properly of give us an easy to use sat nav!!!! just another example of a company that goes for headlines rather than just giving putting resources into getting existing problems sorted out.

Pleased to hear you may have a solution, could still be down to Skoda not telling the dealers what they should be doing which in itself is an issue for their aftercare. A good dealer is worth their weight in gold.

I am always amazed how large companies put systems out that don’t work, do they not test them, does an accountant say that’s it you’ve spent enough put it into production. Do they only test in the lab, not with real people, I just don’t understand, is their anyone on this forum who could explain it to me, please.

Just read in auto express that the latest Volvo XC60 is getting infotainment software and maps from Google, if only VAG would do the same it would make it a much better car, I can’t help feeling that software companies should do software and car companies should make cars, perhaps that’s where their going wrong.

We had a 17 plate Yeti and although you had to press another button to use postcodes at least you could, the latest version will not accept postcodes, only VAG could tell us why and their not saying anything. Very disappointed.

Would explain why so little is mentioned in the press about this issue

Why no recall to address the issue, answer Cost. They will have done the calculations that any bad publicity and dissatisfied customers will be cheaper than having to redesign or reinstall/replace components, both of which they will have to pay dealers for plus the cost of any courtesy cars. They didn’t choose to stop using emissions cheating software and tell the world what they had done they were forced to, same old story sack a few people say we’re reformed and let’s all move on, nothing to see. Sad to see but that’s how big corporations work these days.

My apologies to Skoda, my car has got a towing eye, my boot layout is different with only only one piece of foam and t he towing eye is underneath the wheel wrench, painted black, same colour as the foam and until I took the wheel wrench out it could be seen.

Having had Skodas for many years I had faith in the German engineering of the VAG group, unfortunately not any more. I will not even look at a car from VAG next time, not because the car has a fault but because they have no interest in in fixing it. I think next time it will be Korean, my daughters Kia has car with all systems working as they should, I haven’t, why should I give a company like my custom.

It’s a shame they can’t software update the appalling unusable sat nav someone signed off as fit for purpose. I wonder if they decided not to use map info from one of the usual providers and come up with their own, and now cannot afford to fix it, leaving the customer a defective vehicle. Similar thing happened in the seventies to British leyland, come up with design, put it into production before it was ready and let the customers develop it, look what happened to them, perhaps VAG will follow. what I cannot understand is the lack of comment from the motoring press, do they not test these cars or are they scared to say anything because they fear being cut off by the manufacturer.

I alwaysthought the opposite, bigger rims increased emissions. I believe the reason the manufacturers put bigger rims on the higher spec cars is for some reason they think extra features on a car you must want bigger wheels. I have often wondered why the luxury models always come with drug dealer wheels, to me, if you want luxury you want a luxury car you want a luxury ride so a bigger more compliant sidewall is what you want.

Slightly off topic but just noticed DSLs photo on page one shows a towing eye in the tools. For some reason in the latest cars they no longer supply these. Although I don’t think you can tow a DSG car you surely need to fit one so the recovery driver can pull it onto the recovery truck. Only alternative would be to tie to winch wire to the suspension and run the risk that as the wire tightens it will cut your bumper in half. Another example of “simply clever”

I think a car has to be able to display both KPH and MPH, if the digital is in KPH but your Speedo is in MPH then you will still be legal. Most speedos have Large MPH on the outside and smaller KPH on the inner, continental cars have the reverse. If you can display one format in digital then you don’t need both on the speedo. If they have reinstalled the software and it is still faulty, to me, that indicates a hardware problem. I agree publicity is the way to go, only when it hits sales will they get really interested. Perhaps it’s time to resurrect all the old Skoda jokes.

A tin can opened up, some pop rivets and lots of undersea, worked for me. Seriously technology is only good if it works. Apple stormed ahead of the competition because their phones just worked. If they can’t get it right they shouldn’t use us as development mules.

Why couldn’t they just give us a sat nav that works, watched a you tube video of a Karoq review from an owner from a year or so ago. He demonstrated the sat nav, put in the postcode, up came three route options, he selected one and pressed start. Done. I was so jealous, his was MIB2 I presume, stupid me I assumed the new updated system would be better than the system it replaced, should have remembered the old saying about never presume.

Perhaps cars have just got too complicated, never had these issues with my Morris minor, all it had was a Speedo and a fuel gauge.

Slightly off topic but just noticed DSLs photo on page one shows a towing eye in the tools. For some reason in the latest cars they no longer supply these. Although I don’t think you can tow a DSG car you surely need to fit one so the recovery driver can pull it onto the recovery truck. Only alternative would be to tie to winch wire to the suspension and run the risk that as the wire tightens it will cut your bumper in half. Another example of “simply clever” Slightly off topic but just noticed DSLs photo on page one shows a towing eye in the tools. For some reason in the latest cars they no longer supply these. Although I don’t think you can tow a DSG car you surely need to fit one so the recovery driver can pull it onto the recovery truck. Only alternative would be to tie to winch wire to the suspension and run the risk that as the wire tightens it will cut your bumper in half. Another example of “simply clever”

I found these on my 21 plate Karoq, just pushed them back into hole, I assumed they are for something not fitted like a power tailgate or the virtual pedal for opening the tailgate.

It would be interesting to know if we had a ‘Lemon’ law like California where a dealer has three attempts to rectify a fault and if unsuccessful you can ask for your money back the manufacturer would be more active in finding a solution. It seems to me manufacturers these days are only driven to take action when forced to, either by publicity or court action. Let’s face facts VW didn’t confess on their own accord and offer compensation when they fitted emission cheating software to their cars. Seems bizarre that their software engineers can come up with emission cheating software that works perfectly but cannot develop software that just works in normal everyday situations.

I think all sat navs use lat and long for positioning it’s just that all other sat navs convert the post code you put in to the Lat and long without you knowing. It’s a bit like windows when you click an icon on the desktop it converts it to command line within windows to carry out the function.I wonder what the reaction would be if Microsoft updated windows and did away with the graphical user interface and went back to manually inputting command lines. Well done VW!

Would be interesting to know why Skoda don’t want you to use postcodes like every other sat nav and would be good if they could put that in the instructions so that you know. Pretty poor show really and not what you expect from a company like VAG.

I did look at some non U.K. forums but apart from getting that there was a problem I couldn’t understand them. Regarding map updates I don’t think it will solve the problem as is not the maps but the sat nav software that’s at fault, it needs uninstalling and replacing with something that’s fit for purpose. Possibly this is the reason VAG haven’t issued a over there air update as it’s something that might have to be done at the dealers, and they don’t want to pay to have that done.

I have checked for updates but there doesn’t seem to be any, one would hope that as part of the PDI the software is updated so that it doesn’t leave the showroom running anything that is of date.

There is no doubt the the BMW system is the best on the market, I don’t understand how a company as large as VAG can get it so wrong and actually go backwards on ease of use, that’s not progress as you would expect updated versions to be better than previous versions. I am sure this could be sorted but for some reason VAG don’t want to which says volumes for their customer care.

I think it will take you to the address, problem is unless you know the 12 digit map coordinates you will not know if it’s the correct address. Every sat nav I have used over the last 20 odd years has used the post code, with my 15 yr old Garmin you enter the full post code and it gives you that road, then a list of house numbers to choose, my 2019 Mercedes did the same, as do all BMWs, also all of my previous VW And Skoda sat navs. The latest MIB3 system is utter rubbish and I am very disappointed that they should fit such a system. Wish I’d known before I bought the car, may still have bought it but at least I would have known It wouldn’t have functioning navigation system and I’d have to use google maps.