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9 hours ago, Chunk11 said:
All working now Gyp some great bikes I especially love the exhaust on the triumph and like the ramp you have in your garage.
The ramp would be far more useful if it hadn't had an R65 sat on it for over 5 years!
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2 minutes ago, Chunk11 said:
Gyp not sure if it is my phone but none of the photos have loaded
Might be worth refreshing as it's taken me about 7 attempts to get them to display
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The sensible bike that's taken me from Lands End to John O'Groats in one go, and to Monaco and Spain...
The one I need to fix...
The one I bought a couple of years ago, I've spent a fortune on making just the way I like it, is poor in every measurable way but is an absolute pleasure to ride as I stopped worrying about specs ans just enjoyed being out and about. It reminded me of why I started riding and I completely love it...
Oh, and this is being collected Good Friday...
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6 minutes ago, bonelorry said:
@Chunk11 Sounds like the Salesperson is either trying it on or just plain stupid.
Either way I echo what others have said and I have done this in the past, Put something in an Email just asking for confirmation of the Deal that you have verbally agreed.Most sales people want to talk as they can be persuasive (and the sometimes scant details and a phone number for more aligns with this), whereas I much prefer doing everything by email etc as that way there's a written record of what's been offered and what's been agreed.
A clear email stating what the offer for the bike is and conditions makes it clear for both sides. If the salesman says no, and sets different conditions that may still be acceptable, but either way it's all recorded.
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2 hours ago, bonelorry said:
With regards to the admin fee, If they don't waver that and want to charge it on top of the price of the Bike I would be inclined to walk away. Atleast that should be swallowed up and your offer of £5100 should be acceptable.
Yes, I really don't get that "admin fee" charge.
I'd offer to fill out the V5 myself and write a receipt for them to sign.
...or charge them a viewing fee
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12 hours ago, Chunk11 said:
Very true that gyp not the best time for me to try and negotiate a deal :-)
Very comprehensive post I enjoyed reading it. £20k on a bike 😱 I’m very jealous....
I’ve found a Versys that I like and it is in my price range so emailed the dealer (only 30 miles away) with a few questions.
Out of interest how does it work when you purchase a bike from a distance and get it delivered. What if you don’t like the riding position or have other issues with the bike?
Would it be a case of finding a similar one more local and pretending your interested so you can try it first before looking further afield and getting one delivered blind for want of a better word?
bonelorry has covered the distance selling stuff well and in more detail that I ever could. Whilst you can reject without giving a reason, I don't think it's reasonable to consider the 14 days to be an extended test drive, but instead a period where you can unwind the deal simply if the bike is not as good a condition as described etc. Most that are doing delivery are being clear that you can reject the bike if it's not as expected on delivery, but your rights do it seems extend well beyond that.
The R1200R Sport that I sold privately to fund the new bike was all done remotely too - lots of photos and description from my side, buyer agreed the price and arranged for a courier to collect it. He's quite happy which is good news.
Whilst the showrooms aren't open, one of my local dealers was happy to roll a couple of bikes out into the carpark for me, retreat inside and allow me to sit on the bikes and give them a good looking over. I couldn't run them or ride them however. It could be worth contacting the dealer in Preston and seeing if they would do the same for you so you can sit and bounce.
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1 hour ago, Chunk11 said:
Thanks Gyp not sure if you are a Kawasaki salesman but if you were I would definitely just have bought the bike from you 😁
Your Harley looks awesome bet you can’t wait?
I know nothing about buying bikes from dealers but £1000 off sounds good to me.
I wish I was a Kawasaki salesman - the commission would come in rather useful at the moment!
From an ergonomics perspective, an adventure bike does a good job of spreading the load between bum, arms and feet, whereas the cruiser riding position puts more weight through the bum. It can feel fine for a while, but as that's doing most of the supporting it becomes waring after a while. The cruiser position is more car like, but there the weight is basically spread all the way from behind the knees right up to the top of the spine.
There is a huge difference in suspension travel between the two bikes with the Versys having almost twice the rear suspension travel than the Vulcan S. That results in the Vulcan needing much firmer suspension so it's not bottoming out all the time, but this makes the ride harsher, which puts more force through your bum, which is already where the weight is being supported. You can see where I'm going with this...
Don't get me wrong, the Vulcan will be brilliant and if you're rarely going more than 20 or 30 miles will likely never be a problem, but if you want to get on the bike and ride to the South of France you'd want to take the Versys.
I'll always remember a two bike test many years ago in Performance Bikes, where they pitched the two 250 Kawasakis against each other; the super sporty and hugely desirable 60bhp race inspired 2-stroke KR1-S against the somewhat uninspiring 45bhp 4-stroke ZZR250. The KR1-S was exciting and fun and felt fast but measured round their real-world 60-mile or so road test circuit was actually slower than the relatively gutless, softly suspended ZZR.
The Harley? Yes, looking forward to it and have bought many bits and bobs for it already. You will of course note that it's a cruiser with all my weight on my bum and only half the rear wheel suspension travel of the Vulcan S (HD 54mm, Vulcan S 89mm, Versys 145mm) and my first ride will be over 300 miles. but it is definitely a bucket-list purchase rather than a sensible one.
Oh and yes, £1000 off is ok, but it's a lot easier to achieve that buying a £20k used bike in December in the middle of a pandemic than it is buying a £5k used bike in the spring nearing the end of lockdown.
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1 hour ago, Chunk11 said:
Thanks for your input bonelorry I think realistically with me wanting to use it everyday to commute a sportsbike will be out of the question😢
Good to hear your experience of the Versys I think I need to go and test both as they aren’t in the same bracket really the Vulcan S is a cruiser and the Versys an adventure/sports tourer.
I'll admit that I've not ridden the Versys, but can say that adventure bikes, especially the mid capacity ones, make excellent every-day bikes. Comfortable, sensible riding position, well suspended and luggage to bring home some shopping if need be. Surprisingly, adventure bikes are generally quicker than sports bikes over traditional British A and B roads because of the better visibility and ability to cope with the road conditions
If I was sensible, I reckon the Versys could well be the one bike I'd actually ever need.
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21 hours ago, bonelorry said:
If you are happy to pay it and feel its worth £330 then fair enough!
That said the last BMW I bought in 2019 from a Dealership who did their own Delivery, It was around a 250 Mile round trip and they said it would be £149 additional cost. I didn't haggle on the price of the Bike so said take the £149 out of the profit in the Bike or I will offer you £149 less than the asking price for the Bike, I didn't really care how they did it but I wasn't paying anything for Delivery when other Dealerships offered it free. Needless to say they didn't charge me and did the Deal.
As for this Year, With Distance selling due to COVID Dealerships are desperate to get Sales. I have just bought another BMW and had it Delivered Free of charge. It was only a 70 Mile round trip this time but I had been dealing with Dealerships up and down the UK during my search including BMW Motorrad in Plymouth which is around a 600 Mile round trip to Sheffield for Delivery. The only reason I didn't buy from the Plymouth Dealership was that the Bike wasn't upto my standards condition wise so walked away. At the point of enquiry though I told them where I was located and they said they would deliver the Bike Free of charge if I paid the asking price.
Personally I would walk away from the deal but that would be my choice.I'd already negotiated over £1000 off.
I'm sure if I'd paid the asking they'd have delivered for free.
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6 minutes ago, bonelorry said:
£330 Delivery Fee?
That's a bit extortionate?From the dealership it's about a 600-mile round trip.
Because they do their own delivery rather than an independent transporter, they deliver directly rather than collecting and delivering round the country. With the 10 hours plus driving and then the loading and unloading they were budgeting for 2 days with an overnight stop.
Looking at it that way it sounds like a realistic charge; 2 days labour, 600 miles on the van and a night in a Premier Inn (allowed as the delivery is a commercial activity)
The lad and myself will have to do the round trip in a day as COVID rules do not yet allow us to have a hotel room or stay with friends, but it'll be an adventure...
Even doing it ourselves with a fairly economical car it'll cost about £150 in fuel, and with a couple of detours we're taking on the way back we'll be driving about 1000 miles that day between us. Actually, all of a sudden the £330 doesn't seem that bad!
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On 21/12/2020 at 07:41, Gyp said:
Not sure this was the right week to add a large capacity touring motorcycle to the fleet.
Delivery in Jan
OK, as we got the Kent variety of the virus announced on the day after I slapped down my debit card and we then went into lockdown, delivery didn't happen in January. Nor February. And not March either.Now planning to collect from the dealership (saving £330 delivery fee) on Good Friday.
If it's snowing at Easter, I apologise. It's my fault.
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1 minute ago, Westbury63 said:
Well, there wil be someone somewhere thinks that they have spent their £750 well. For me, I would have used it to pay for three years servicing, tax and insurance!
I own motorcycles and have spend a fortune on unnecessary trinkets (and unnecessary whole bikes to be fair) so I'll not criticise too loudly :-)
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3 minutes ago, jelly18 said:
Hi Gyp I dare say someone out there will buy it. It seems more style than function and you're right about the braking and front/rear balance.
I expect so, and might make sense if being done in addition to a front brake, suspension and wheel/tyre upgrade but on their own not necessary.
You also hit the issue of modified car insurance, which I remember was a headache when I wanted to upgrade the brakes on my Yeti.
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1 minute ago, Westbury63 said:
Agreed. The Citigo has plenty of breaking power. A rear disc conversion is adding complexity for no advantage other than relieving you of the best part of £500 !!
plus the cost of the specialist pipes (or are they cables) that need fabricating then the fitting cost so likely nearer £750 all in.
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It looks like a nice enough kit, but my main question would be "why?"
The Citigo/Up! doesn't feel underbraked and there's no noticeable problem with front-rear brake balance. Unless I'm mistaken even the Up! Gti has drums.
The only issue I have is that the pads can get stuck to the drums if parked with the handbrake on for an extended period.
If it 's for style when looking through alloys then fair enough, but it seems to be trying to solve a non-problem
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22 hours ago, e-Roottoot said:
Perfect.
Then if that happens and any remedial work needs doing i would buy a Skoda Warranty as the work they do under the Manufacturers Warranty is not covered longer than the life of the manufacturers warranty.
Unless you pay some pence towards it.
But once they have fixed under warranty, then there are no 'known issues or faults' So a Warranty purchased is on a vehicle that is fault free with the DSG.
Sorry if that sounds contrived, but then Skoda UK and the Warranty Provider are the ones that can be 'at it', so you play the game the way they do IME.
I previously got caught with their 12 year (IIRC) anti corrosion warranty - I got rust, it got repaired under the warranty, the rust reappeared but was no longer covered as the repair was only covered for a year...
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6 minutes ago, e-Roottoot said:
Good.
Be aware that others that have taken out Skoda Warranties at the end of the Manufacturers warranty have had claims knocked back because it was said they had talked to Skoda Dealerships before buying the warranty and then they claim 'Known Issues'.
Obviously this is ridiculous,
so if any issue in the next 4 weeks be sure to get onto Skoda Assist and have the car uplifted 'as you feel it is unsafe to drive' incase there is loss of drive.
As Skoda have been involved in the process - dealer called skoda to ask advice on how to resolve problem - I'm comfortable that I can push skoda to resolve if the problem recurs
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7 minutes ago, e-Roottoot said:
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Is it still under Warranty so reported before that expires?
Hopefully all is well now, but if not then that will hardly be a surprise as Skoda have not exactly advanced technology over 10 plus years of DQ200's,
and you never know how things are after 3 years until 3 years passes.
Yes, still under warranty for another 4 or 5 weeks.
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15 minutes ago, e-Roottoot said:
@GypWhat age of car with how many miles on it.
EDIT. If this is a 1.4TSI then it is a DQ200 DSG as i posted about below. Sorry, i thought it would be a 2.0 TDI,
The Fabia / Yeti & Octavia section DSG's with MCU issues are liable to be 7 speed twin dry clutch DSG's so DQ200's.
They have a World Wide Recall excluding Europe in 2012, a Service Campaign on them up to 2012 in Europe, another 2013-15, then again a recall in Australia in 2019.
It's a 2018 car with about 25,000 very gentle miles on it (perhaps that's the problem)
Yes, it's a 1.4TSi so it would be the DQ200. I'm guessing that it's fairly rare in a Superb as most go for the larger engine with the different gearbox
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Having had a "gearbox in emergency mode no reverse gear" message and fun at the dealership last week I thought I'd pop in here to see what the mood was. Seems like there's a lot of discussion about the Mechatronic in the Octavia/Yeti/Fabia subgroups but not in the Superb group.
Odd.
No idea why, anyway, having had the car for a few days, the dealer nor Skoda found anything to replace so did a gearbox reset and sent me on my way.
Glad it happened and was recorded with Skoda just before the warranty ran out rather than after, so if it happens again I can go and give them my best Paddington stare.
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12 minutes ago, Gizmo said:
1. Yes they are
2. Not sure what you mean.
3. No.
- Great news, thank you
- I alway like having Driving data -> Range displayed on the Maxidot. When using adaptive cruise and stop start, every time the engine restarts (in stop start traffic), the maxidot moves to the next one of the driving data displays; range -> av consumption -> consumption -> speed ->avg speed -> distance -> travelling time -> range
- Pity
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- Does the bumper/tailgate have captive nuts for the numberplates? I'm looking to change my plates and want to know if it's a 2 minute job or a half day scrabbling around in the cold.
- Can I stop the vehicle information display changing when using the adaptive cruise? Every time I stop in traffic and restart it skips to the next display.
- Any way of showing the ODO rather than the trip when cruise is on?
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Not sure this was the right week to add a large capacity touring motorcycle to the fleet.
Delivery in Jan
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Confirmed this morning - drove to work and within a mile or so the oil temp gauge started to move above 50C and the water temp gauge on the digital display didn't move even though the water temp on the clocks rose happily to 90. A quick flick from the dials to the (ridiculous) lap timer and back and the water temp was then showing 90.
Driving home after lunch, I fiddled around with the gauges after starting the car, and within 2 miles the water was at 90 and the oil was about 60.
So I now know the oil and water both warm up nice and quickly but the fancy display doesn't work reliably. Ho hum.
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Battery drain
in Škoda Citigo
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I'm a great fan of Ctek battery chargers and, in particular, their "comfort" connectors.
If you connect a comfort indicator to the battery you can see at a glance if the battery needs to be charged and connect up the charger.
In the UK, they are very popular in car dealerships where they can check on the condition of the car batteries in the showroom and keep them topped up.
I don't use them on the car as it is in regular use, however I do have the connectors fitted to my motorbikes so i can check on them easily