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You must have a different BIOS - deactivating Fast Boot just outputs the extended BIOS screen start-up messages. Can't find a "Security" option. My machine, now fitted with a re-chargeable Li-on button CMOS battery, rated @ 3.6v (!), and a mixed array of double rank and single rank DIMMS (Doubles in A-1, B-1 and singles A-2, B-2) and operating from the onboard Radeon graphics chip (MSI radeon graphics board not re-installed) is now as happy as and is starting normally every time. Looks like the fault was caused by the incorrect positioning of pairs of DIMMS during the memory upgrade from 4GB to 8GB - the machine appears not to tolerate mixed rank DIMMs when paired A1+A2, B1+B2. There were also other contributory faults:- Definite was:- 1). A depleted CMOS battery which may have been corrupting system values on start-up and losing CMOS values during power-off periods. 2).The MSI graphics card interfering with CMOS values (You recall it appeared to) - I have not re-installed it yet. Possible:- 1) Malware in the CMOS - prior and whilst this was happening I had been getting regular calls from the sub-continental "Hello Sir, there is something wrong with your computer" artists. These calls have now stopped - presumably they are now fully employed righting the BA computer system ! Anyway, if there was anything dodgy in the CMOS, the battery has been in and out so many times over the last 3 weeks, that any peculiar values will have been flushed. Nick

Back to the original question, has anybody ever had to get off a commercial airliner for this kind of reason ? N

If a vehicle hadn't been servicing that aircraft, he'd be motoring at something greater than close order manoeuvring speed and the damaged would be somewhat greater - just think of your beloved Skoda - it doesn't take much energy to make a hole like that - IMHO looks more like stone/FOD damage. I'm no expert, perhaps someone here has apron experience. If the damage is to a flap , then its to the underside, how would a vehicle damage the underside of a flap without inflicting damage on the edge ? N

Re examining the picture again, in actual fact it looks like its a trailling edge flight surface e.g. flap, that's been damaged and it looks like the aircraft is transiting from a taxiway onto a main runway. So, piccy taken just before take-off ? If that's the case then, what's he doing with the flaps down whilst taxing - I believe that best practice is to stow flaps during taxiing as this is a classic way of getting flight control surface damage by FOD. N

Point taken, from the photo taken. Lower leading edge and shot directed upward would catch it. N

Bearing in mind they wouldn't need stairs for the pax, or scissor ramp for the catering or baggage ('Cause the fuselage is so close to the groun a's needed is a mobile conveyor), the only vehicles they'd need is for the fuel, the sullage honey sucker and mobile generator (To keep aircraft systems going during turnaround (No static aircraft PSU)) - only the fuelie would need to get close to the wing and, by convention, the bowser would be positioned behind the wing trailling edge and usually the underside fuel connections are mid-chord of the wing, nowhere near the leading edge. In fact, if you look at the Quimper video, they didn't need any aircraft services during turnaround apart from what looked like a generator - pax just walked with hand luggage (Once the props had stopped rotating), driver didn't even do a walk-around - IATA compliant ? - they probably don't do walk around on the outlier leg, but what happens if its a round-robin trip schedule ? Nick

Could be a vehicle, could be runway or in-flight FOD, or even servicing damage. Something substantial, as the leading edge is usually constructed solidily. If the damage is on the underside should have been spotted by whichever flight deck officer did the walk around. The tiny aliens are probably in the BA board room - apparently they outsourced BAs IT to TATA last year !

Yet the BB Playbook soldiers on, with software updates frozen back in 2014 and manages to interface consistently with MS's own mail and calendar servers on Outlook sans problem ! N

Tinfoil hats and the plethora of other usual suspect accusations that are aimed in my direction on such occasions aside, look at the pic in this Wiki article:- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATR_72 Its a high wing monoplane, with a low slung long fuselage, and engines near the wing root - designed for city to city, quick turnaround at airfields without full passenger facilities e.g. London City and no push-out corridors from the passenger waiting area. No separate passenger stairs needed (They're built-in) - passenger entry ports and luggage stowage are well removed from the wing. And if you backed towards the wing root, you are more likely to hit the propellers first - those engine nacelles are very long. My guess, damage caused in flight or whilst aircraft was undergoing periodic maintenance in hangars - knowing people that work in that area of the industry, that's one of their occupational bug bears, dropping something on a skin or in an orifice e.g. an engine. With my "Flak damage" comment, please don't go as literal as GM - it was a term used with tongue planted firmly in cheek. N Postscript Regardez:-

BA's IT services are getting are real hammering from knowledgeable contributors on that Pprune thread. Worth a glance. N

What type of turnaround service vehicle would damage the top of the leading edge of wing root ? De-icing peut-etre ? Most of the turnaround service points are underneath the wings and fuselage, for obvious reasons. N

B.A. Just a cover story for delaying flights so that extended luggage searches could be conducted ? N.

Number of people using laser pointers and reckless use of drones on the Heathrow approach would justify use of this term. N.

No. But I'm not a fan of the emerging "Kosovo" lite trend down here. Unless you've lived in London for the last 15 years you wouldn't know. N.

You'd know what the game is, mate, if you lived round here now. N

As usual, it gets even better, this week, in a Victor Meldrew sort of way. Earlier this week I attempted to re-book a GP appointment j(My usual GP) that I'd had to cancel the week before due to a conflict with an unexpected and urgent Hospital appointment. This was a recall by the GPs blood -testing service on an annual cardiac blood -test, so not exactly niff-naff and trivia. So, I noticed last time I signed-on to my account on the GPs web server that they'd enabled the account for making GP appointments (Previously it had just been prescriptions only) . I thought, this'll save time. When I logged-on, I found that my GP wasn't listed as an available option. Not to worry, I thought, I give them a call on my landline. But they'd changed the automated call system, so that after selecting appointments by key depression, instead of going directly to the receptionist, I was taken to another menu., but there was a fault with the voice recording telling you what the options were - you could barely hear it and it was breaking-up. I tried randomly pressing buttons to see if anything happen, nothing. Tried the same on the mobile and by putting the phone close to my ear, I could just about hear the menu options under the appointments menu. So, I selected speak directly to the receptionist . . . . and I think I made her afternoon . . . . . . somebody fiddling the system to make patients take a new doctor ? Why not do it the easy way ? N

I think that would be a bit of over reaction in the circumstances and current conditions. Somebodies playing annoying ******'s incorporated . . . and its not me for. a change I'm retired and this guy is at home all day. Soon as any van draws-up, and its usually for me, he is like some over-active pooch harrassing the postman and is at the front door attempting to take the parcel before the delivery agent has knocked on my front door. Eventually, today, after knocking on his front door a couple of times, I retrieved my parcel and warned him off doing it again. What a curry basher would need with a bottle of Madeira is anybody's guess - hardly their taste. Care in the Community has a lot to answer for. Nick

Love the Modus Operandi - wait 'til 22 dead, 60 injured, some with life limiting injuries, then sweep-up the whole network in a week - how about doing it before the event - "Because we're worth it". Seems to me that HMG are placing the rights of socio/pyschopaths above those of the ordinary population. If you havem't got the intelligence in advance, for the known 3,000, just pull - 'em randomly for detention - somewhere nice like Gruinard. N

I don't know why the installation was successful this week when it wasn't 2-3 weeks ago. Part of the MS commitment to well engineered, robust & consistent software to the "Code complete" standard . . . . err . . . err not ! This has got all the hallmarks of the BT and their attempts to force me on to "Unlimited use" Infinity service, make the service as unpredictable and flaky as possible, in the hope that users then say "****-it", I want reliability, I'll pay a sub. In this vein, I've also noticed, in the last two weeks ,a mass movement amongst main-stream web sites to deny access to users who don't accept cookies - basically, they are reacting against the most recent version of Opera (Which I have been using as my prime browser for the last year) which is configured so as to deny all the embedded advert crap on websites. Consequently, last four weeks, I've had to use IE, with all the embedded HD video advert crap which slows down my machine and jacks-up data usage by 10-20%. No wonder BT wanted to get me on to "Unlimited". It makes some of these U.S. websites which are most heavily afflicted virtually unusable unless you've got a machine in the top 25th percentile of performance. IMHO, different model needed for development of the web. N

Bloke next door keeps on intercepting my home deliveries before I can get the front door. A card always get shoved through the door by the delivery agent, but when I knock on the front door he either doesn't answer or has gone out in the interim. Its only when her in doors comes home that I get a proper response. Seems that some of the delivery agents are misstating where the items delivered. I was in the house at 14:00 on wards in the lounge, not 6 feet from the door, heard no knock, but at 14:29 got an e-mail from Amazon saying that the item had been delivered to "Reception" (This is a residential premises). The card in the letter box said "Delivered to your next door neighbour at number 5". Knocked twice on the door - no response. The same was attempted the other day but I beat him to the front door - same MO delivery agent knocked very softly on front door, I only just heard it being 6 feet away in the front room and by the time I got to the front door, my neighbour had already got his front door open, which, when I opened mine and took delivery, was slammed. This is getting a regular feature now. Worth reporting to the cops (Abstracting/attempted theft ?) and the Delivery companies ? Or do I just bust down his front door and get my goods back ? Nick

Place your bets, now. Nick

A commercial airliner, with "Flak" damage, deemed fit to go by crew, but not by passengers . . http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/595103-pax-point-out-hole-air-berlin-aircraft.html Any of the frequent flyers/other transport mode users on here been in that position ? N

Awhh crap ! I didn't realise that W10 Calendar had a separate set-up process to W10 mail - Being used to the Outlook set-up process, I just set-up W10 mail alone, thinking that did calendar and, of course concluded that the calendar wasn't working !! Duh ! So, I've corrected that, first deleting the old W10 mail and then setting-up new W10 mail and calendar accounts. And, with the added bonus that this time round that both mail and calendar were set-up as referencing an MS Exchange server so I'm getting full syncing here too ! - previously MS Exchange wasn't appearing in the list of account types at set-up time, only Outlook.com. Me thinks, that may be MS have been sprinkling some fix-it pixy dust. Anyway, I prefer using Outlook, because of the format/appearance and because it provides mail receipt and delivery notification whereas W10 mail doesn't - that facility is useful to the Home user, even if its just on an occasional basis. N

On your advice, I thought I'd have another go at setting up a MAPI account in the Outlook 2010 client in place of the IMAP+SMTP temporary fix , despite it failing when I first attempted to set-up a brand new MAPI account three weeks ago on. It worked ! E-Mail + Calendars, all OK ? - I removed the IMAP+SMTP account, re-started the machine, then created a MAPI account using the automatic log-on process, which involved downloading and installing Hotmail connector. It took a couple of cycles of starting the Outlook app,but it worked ! And the Microsoft Exchange server icon appeared at the bottom line of the Outlook window. Huh ? But I did exactly that 3 weeks ago and it didn't work. / Just out of interest, I took a look at the server it was using - Outlook.Office365.com/mapi/emsmdb/?Mailbox (Followed by loads of alpha-numeric). Great full mail + calendar functionality restored. As usual, with malfunctioning MS Software, I don't know what I did or whether some MS pixy fix dust has been sprinkled on my account in intervening period, but all seems OK. May be connected with the problems I was having at that time with the CMOS battery and system memory (Since resolved) ? Nick

Not really, but could be. Doesn't have to be Exchange centric. What I'm looking for is any mechanism to get calendar information from outlook.com into the Outlook 2010 client. Just want the E-mails and calendar info in the same app. I suppose I could just simply use the web interface of Outllook.com, but its not as nice as the client interface. Is their another type of Microsoft server that's on the distribution list for Hotmail/outlook calendar info that the Outlook client, perhaps with a mod, could use ? I was hoping that it was just the case that W10 was blocking access to the "For Free" exchange servers, as they still seemed to be available when I was running W8.1 as dual boot with W10. It may be that Microsoft have either withdrawn and closed down the "For free" exchange servers or converted them exclusively into "Pay-for" services within Office 365. The BBP is the low power draw "Always-on" machine sitting on the dining room table. All new calendar entries are input to the BBP which then automatically syncs them with Outlook.com - but that calendar info goes no further (Although it used to be drawn down into the Outlook Client when Exchange was selected as the server.). N