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Tbh I've been with admiral for 4 out of the last 5 years and I have no complaints with them at all, they handled a claim for me really quickly and were very helpful. Re the auto renewal thing, I don't really have a problem with that either, they send you a renewal price through a month before it's due and it says to cancel it just ring this number, it takes a few minutes but job done.
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Chris Gilbert does driving days. He's a former class 1 and hendon instructor. Also taught william and harry to drive.
I wouldn't be advertising myself as a hendon driving instructor since the met often don't follow the CoP curriculum. The met always do things their own way.
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Read Roadcraft first.
It's a great cure for insomnia!
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I accept that and am trying to learn something here. My point however relates to lone civilians using police marked vehicles for police enforcement duties such as setting up speed traps, not police staff accompanied by police officers or otherwise using vehicles where they are not actively engaged in police enforcement duties. Can you point me towards the legislation which enables lone civilians to actively carry out police enforcement duties whilst manning marked police vehicles? I'd be interested in that not because I want to argue the point but because I am unaware of the enabling legislation and like others here, consider it unconstitutional. I would have a serious issue with the fact that any civilian could covertly pass themselves off as a police officer. Of course most of us realise that since 2002, laws have been changed to allow more civilian staff to undertake what were formally official police duties. I was unaware though that in the case of speed camera vans that the evidence presented by a lone civilian member of staff was de-facto since there is no corroboration for the judgement that someone must have been speeding in order to video them and similar such issues. Perhaps with modern tech and trained civilians there doesn't have to be, in which case it is a sad state of affairs where police employees are now carrying out official police enforcement. I am sure that the police would argue that safety partnerships free up their trained officers for more serious crimes and again, that is a reasonable argument. It's the lone staff issues which most concerns me, the corroboration of judgement and correct operation of the kit etc.
Firstly, the law generally states what you cannot do, not what you can do. So just because if no legislation states you can do something this makes his actions illegal. To my knowledge there's no legislation that states you may eat drink and breathe yet these are all legal!
Secondly, he is not carrying out enforcement duties, only evidence gathering, and even that is debatable as he is just a camera operator, it's the camera that collects the evidence, so do you also think the civvie staff in debenhams that operate the CCTV should be unlawful and should be carried out by fully paid police officers? The evidence gathered from the camera and will be put before the police (as in officers) to decide whether or not to summons or ticket.
All police services use civvie staff in one role or another that will drive marked police vehicles on their own at times, this does not make it illegal.
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Because the Police Reform Act of 2002 enables uniformed PCSOs to operate under the jurisdiction of the Chief Constable and that includes driving marked police vehicles.
I think you misunderstand the legislation a little. Which legislation prohibits pro lice staff from driving police vehicles? I'll help you out a little there isn't any, police staff are even permitted to drive with all the same exceptions as police officers, hence why most police driving instructors are retired police officers who are now civvie staff.
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Back to the OP and the whole affair is frankly quite Ridiculous.
The police in that film were a disgrace....very embarrassing. The catalogue of misguided decisions and frankly unlawful actions on the part of the police ought to have been taken as a complaint to the Chief Constable and to the local MP. The guy was not altogether right about his right to film the police in the manner that he did. The way the law stands, the gentleman was correct in that the chap in the marked police van should have been accompanied by or should have been a trained police officer. No civilian has any authority to operate in a police vehicle on the highway unless a police officer, a pcso, or a Special. That chap operating a police vehicle on the public highway and the apparatus inside may have been just doing his job but I would call into question the legality of it. At best, anyone caught that day could appeal and on a technicality might get their convictions quashed. Civilians operating un-marked traffic partnership vans, properly trained and using calibrated kit can operate jointly with the police and its for the police to then decide whether the motorists captured should be prosecuted or given a fixed penalty based on the evidence. No civilian has any authority to impersonate a police officer or to carry out independent speed checks for the purposes of gathering evidence for a prosecution...unless a new law has been passed?
The collection of that evidence has to be beyond reproach so I'd argue that a lone civilian using a police van doesn't pass muster. Furthermore, the van was parked in a position likely to cause a moving traffic obstruction and was clearly a hazard to oncoming vehicles as it's location created the need for vehicles to cross the carriageway to pass it. That was compounded by the damp conditions and average visibility, so it was as likely for the van to have created an accident as it was a speeding motorist. A case of revenue generation methinks. Nuts.
The guy did right and there's nothing that the police can do...that policewoman had no right setting foot in his house and that constitutes trespass which is a civil tort, not a criminal offence. It would have been a criminal offence had she forced her way into the house without reasonable cause, which she most certainly lacked, along with any brain cells, politeness and civility. She also tried it on and was about to use his "mental state" as grounds for entry (which the police can do if they believe the occupant is a danger to themselves or likely to be to others) but had second thoughts and had to do some back tracking rather quickly. Pathetic. The attitude of the chap is completely irrelevant. Apart from being a bit of an armchair expert with one or two flaws in his reasoning, he did nothing unlawful that I could see nor was he rude or disrespectful. Respect has to be earned and the police officers in that video didn't exactly qualify in that respect.
Why is it unlawful for police staff to be in a police vehicle yet not unlawful for a PCSO?
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Not on the car but on the kayak.
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What's up with the smax? We use them as our main patrol vehicles and they are spot on for us.
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That does kind of depend on your point of view, to play devils advocate.
If a normal citizen setup a white van with police livery and started to film motorists then they'd probably get a firm visit with the words 'impersonating a police officer'. And if that stands, then how (legally) grey is the line when you're doing it, with permission, on behalf of the police? (Rhetorical, but I have no idea on the word of the law in this case anyway).
If impersonating a police officer is and offence, and travelling above the speed limit is an offence - then the only difference is motive really. If you've just got 3 points for doing 32 in a 30 then pedantry may be uppermost in your mind.
But he's a member of police staff, not just some joe blogs off the street. The old police employed traffic wardens used to drive marked police vehicles, CSI and detention officers still do.
As for the mental state issue, it is up to the police to refer you to dvla if they think you are not of sound mind, who else is going too if they don't and you'd all soon by crying on if they didn't and a person suffering mental issues killed one of your family members and the police had been aware and did nothing. All that said, I don't agree with interpersonal skills of the female officer but then again we only have a snapshot of what actually went on, no one knows what happened before the heavily edited video.
Also the guys law knowledge is nonexistent (much like the forum members here).
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It's not that big to be honest much smaller than a satnav
It still looks cheap and big, maybe I'm just being picky but I want one that will fix to the rear of my rear view mirror and so that you can't see it that it's there from either inside or outside the car.
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It's just a pitty it looks horrible, I'd never have that big thing in my windscreen, id want something small and compact that wouldn't block out the sun.
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Which Major or Minor UK Cities have already banned Diesel Vehicles?
That would be none George. Can't see it happening either.
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Wasn't that long ago that the govt was encouraging diesels due to better emissions. But as others have said, wants to go into London anyway, the Lake District is so much nicer and have everything anyone needs.
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I didn't realise the saab was a petrol, I'd probably still go for it, if you don't mind the mpg figures it's a bigger car and will probably be better equipped as most had heated rear seat etc. and they are just as well screwed together.
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How old is the 95?
At those prices and mileages I'd go for the saab no question!
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I'm looking for a volvo too, I'm wanting a V70 D5.
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Am I missing something here, or did FUBAR post a video of an actual murder/execution?
It certainly looks like it.
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My mates golf at 7 years old had rust on both front wheel arches and the boot.
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On a side note, why would someone fit a horn to their push bike?
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Pesonally as both a cyclist and a driver I think there was enough room and it was a bit of an overreaction by both parties...
I agree with that 100% I don't feel the motorist did anything wrong to behind with however by the end they both looked like plonkers.
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As someone who has been hit by motorists 3 times, last one had his license revoked, you see from a different perspective, calmly sat at your pc viewing this and seeing this for real are two matters, the cyclist did not overreact , if you had had a near miss you would have reacted the same, many cyclists have cars as well as bikes .I behave responsibly have insurance.
Was it a near miss though? After watching it several times the cyclist didn't move an inch to miss the car.
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If they've already had it 9 days I'd say either deliver it within 7 days or cancel the order and ring VW to tell them why.
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It's always cash for me. No monthly payments, the car is yours outright, you can sell it with no complications from day 1.
Those PCP deals ends up with you not owning the car, you pay rent for three years (or however long) then with the option to buy it at the end.
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I think i have an illness when it comes to cars...
Since i started driving 9 years ago i have had 13 cars. So thats an ownership period of less than a year.
I have had my current car 10 months which is pretty good going for me. But i have the urge to change it. Even though changing as often is basically like throwing money down the drain.
All my previous cars haven't really had any issues i just chop and change them as i fancy something different.
I just wish i could be content with one car and have it for a period of 3-4 years.
Does anyone else have this same bank balance smashing illness?
I'm the same. Been driving since 2001 and I'm on my 13th car. I've had my current one 14 months and really want to change it for some unknown reason. The thing that keeps me on the straight and narrow is that I won't use car finance so in order to change I buy them outright (hence why I never have new ones) but like you, I've wasted so much money that I could of either had a nice brand new car or paid a good chunk off my mortgage. I really do wish I could just settle with having a car for even 3 years but I'm just bored of them. It's not like I buy/want particularly luxurious or fast cars either! I'm thinking of either a nissan quashqai or a Octavia scout or seat altea freetrack4 for the family.
General moan about people and insurance
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Regarding the dash cams, which ones are the best? I'd like one that would play on my iphone or ipad as well as my PC, and is very discrete and easy to turn off as we aren't supposed to have the on at work, so I'd need to turn it off before I entered the car park/yard.