Graham Butcher

You are forgetting the world is full of people who will believe exactly what they are told by such informative videos and or people. Not everyone has the same level of knowledge as you. Most people have zero understanding of just how their car works even. Some have no idea how plastic is made, or that it comes oil even, they can't comprehend just how can something so strong and hard possibly come out of a liquid even. Don't bank on it. Ok so my car emits 119g/km, I could have opted for the exactly same car but more powerful and therefore more damaging to the environment, my car already goes plenty fast enough, twice the national speed limit and has plenty of acceleration for the amount of traffic on the roads., why would anyone in the UK require more?? There are other cars in the same size category that emit upto 350 g/km and yet carry less passengers? There is more pollution and environmental damage being done to produce a EV battery before further pollution is created in the making and shipping of the actual finished car, and then again not all the electric for charging is going to be green either, despite what some claim. The only way they can make such a claim is if they generate their own power in solar and or wind and only ever charge their cars at home 100%.

@wyx087 When you are talking about apples you want to be corrupting the issue by talking about pears. by quoting things like https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364032122000867 https://theicct.org/publication/a-global-comparison-of-the-life-cycle-greenhouse-gas-emissions-of-combustion-engine-and-electric-passenger-cars/ https://www.iea.org/data-and-statistics/charts/comparative-life-cycle-greenhouse-gas-emissions-of-a-mid-size-bev-and-ice-vehicle https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesmorris/2022/06/18/we-need-to-measure-total-lifecycle-emissions-for-cars--but-evs-still-win/ https://about.bnef.com/blog/the-lifecycle-emissions-of-electric-vehicles/ You have demonstrated that you are coming at this from the wrong angle and when it comes to those 5 links, I'm NOT disputing them in any way as they are totally irrelevant and are nothing to do with what I'm saying. If you want to ignore what I'm saying, then that's fine but please don't attempt to put words in my mouth or twist what I'm saying. I'm disagreeing with the way that that video was trying to portray the facts. I'm not disagreeing that it uses loads of energy to do those things, but that energy and pollution that follows is not being consumed or pollution being created for the sole purpose of making petrol and diesel, it is also making items that are used a lot in EV cars, and most of the other everyday items you use in your home, tool kit clothes, footwear etc. also come from the same oil, but that is not what the video makes clear. It wants the viewer to think only about the burning of the fossil fuel and compare that directly with electric. Fact is electric also relies heavily on oil derived products such as those that I mentioned and EV cars could not exist without those so the two and linked, like it or not, its a fact.

The way that the information was portrayed was giving the impression that all of that pollution was caused solely in the production of and transportation of oil to be used only in ICE which is a complete lie, lots of oil is used in loads of things from chemicals all the way through various plastics, many of which are used extensively in the production of EVs, never once did I hear any acknowledgement of that in the video. The implication of that is to imply that was all for use as gasoline to power ICE from ships to planes. EV vehicles would not exist if it were not for oil production, to make the plastic for the cables insulations, plastic switch gear, printed circuit boards, electronic parts, seating, body panels, right down to transmission oils, greases, brake fluids etc. but not a single reference was made. Presumably trying to hood wink the uninitiated into the belief that all of that pollution once we make the transition to full electric motive power, it would be a thing of the past. You actually know that oil extraction, production, shipping, refining will not cease and might well increase to meet the increased demand for the items I have already mentioned. What do you propose we use the liquid fuels currently refine from the crude oil for one ICE is abolished? It will still be there in huge volumes, as that cannot be used to produce the other items that we will still need from the oil? EVs are just adding to the total amount of pollution and huge amounts of toxins that will be left behind that we cannot currently find a safe method of breaking down to become harmless, surely you cannot deny that. If switching to electric meant that oil was no longer going to be drilled for and extracted, all oil wells closed down etc then it would not be too bad, but that is never going to happen is it? I've yet to hear that admitted by anybody from the pro EV camp. Contrary to opinion, I'm not anti EV at all, I'm a realist and anti the knee-jerk reaction that is seeing the compulsory introduction of total electrification before we have fully learned what we are letting ourselves in for and how we can safely deal with any problems arising from this new technology. I said it before, we could be heading into a massive mistake, far worse than diesel was when it was pronounced as the fuel of the future and how it was going to save the world? We now know that was not correct. I like diesel, been involved one way or other with it since the 1960s,and willingly admit that it is far from perfect, nobody on the EV side has yet admitted that EV's could be the same again. There is a reason for the old saying, "better the devil you know than the devil you don't" 'Better The Devil You Know' Meaning - UsingEnglish.com

I thought the EU and US were imposing the tariff to protect their local EV manufacturers, but does the UK make any electric cars?

Commercial vehicle bodies and indeed some cars have been using Aluminium in their construction for decades. Tesla are looking at 48v to reduce weight, but I think they will still be using copper for the cables, the weight reduction will be via small gauge wires because the current drawn will be less. Overhead high voltage grid cables are indeed aluminium, 1.5 times larger than they would be if copper was used, but they are 4 times lighter. We are having a period of copper gas pipes being stolen from houses, these are often mounted externally from when the gas boilers had to be moved to enable their flues to exit though the roof to prevent carbon monoxide from entering the homes from any nearby air bricks or windows. Copper pipe thefts Please be vigilant of anyone conducting work outside your home. We’ve had reports of copper pipework theft locally. We’re not currently conducting any gas pipe related work in the area. If you see anything suspicious, call us on 0300 555 0500 or call 999 in an emergency. If you smell gas, call the national gas emergency service immediately on 0800 111 999.

@lol-lol To say nothing about the stench of diesel or its slipperiness, thieves don't care about the wastage or the mess they leave behind regardless of the item being stolen, as long as they get what they want, the rest of us can go whistle.

With the advent of trucks joining the party, they would be a better option for copper theft then as they would need meater connections to cope with their heavier demands hauling heavier payloads. Copper is not however used in the battery itself, but as the means of interconnection between cells and then between battery banks as busbars to build up to the voltage required. Much the same really LA batteries used in car and buses / lorries, cars are 12v and are made as a single unit, buses / lorries normally are 24V and very often have 4 large capacity 6V batteries connected in series via large copper cables.

Aluminium is not a good choice in that role, it has lower conductivity than copper, less flexible so more prone to strands fracturing from the flexing and vibrations associated with motor vehicles.

Copper used in batteries? My information suggests that their batteries are Lithium-ion, no copper used in them, but buses are rich in copper anyway with all the lights etc even before some became electric. Electric bus battery - Forsee Power

Yes, oh yes, the Taycan man has mentioned this before at some Porsche dealers where they have customer chargers as well. These superfast CCS chargers are ripe for plundering as they have such large cables to carry the high amperage loads.

That may be so, but in most locations it is illegal to let a power cable just lay across a footpath, not all councils are allowing the installation of cable ducts or the use cable protectors as they present a trip hazard (a bit rich really when you consider they are happy to leave pavements in a state of disrepair), so that really means a driveway is prerequisite to be able to plug in at home.

Full of misinformation, this would only be true if the oil extracted is used purely for powering motor vehicles, look around yourself at the vast amount of things that are being made from plastics which includes all the electric cables and casings etc used within all EV's, typical of all channels and sources dedicated to EV's Without the oil and all of its production pollutions, then we would have zero EV's fact. To think how people rant about Taycan man and Geoff buy Cars and M Guy for being biased and full of misinformation, none of their videos are packed full of BS unlike this "Fully Charged" spin off.

Agreed, the whole point, is that EVs are not suitable for everyone regardless of them having a driveway etc, despite your suggesting they should be.

The only people who will be able to take advantage of EV's there are going to be already wealthy or those involved in the government and living in one of the few cities, most cars over there are cars that would banned from our roads as death traps and are owned by the poorest in society and will end up making the gulf between the wealthy and well-connected and the rest, even greater than it is now. As to the Oxford thing (thank you for posting that by the way), it is full of misinformation coming from the authorities and when they go about the being no objection to the traffic filters, look at the number of respondents compared to the number of residents and locals that the scheme would affect. I suspect that it was a carefully planned consultation to get the least amount of responses possible.

I know that, but it is a factor maybe why people have got a EV when they could charge at home, which was a statement made by @wyx087 and all I'm doing is reminding him of that.

I'm not surprised about the charging infrastructure in London and some of the surrounding areas, as that is the place that has the highest density of people in England and the areas with the best support also happen to be where many of the monied people live, which is the main reason. As to keeping 25 miles in your MY so you can drive any direction to be able to quickly charge up, whatever happened to your home charging on your driveway then? There is a wealth of difference between being able to drive a few miles to a suitable charger for the unplanned emergency, in order to top up the battery so you can complete the emergency trip is nothing like doing the same thing in an ICE. I have the choice of around 15 service stations within a 3-mile radius of me and each one has a minimum of 8 pumps, discharging at least 2 grades of petrol and 1 maybe 2 grades of diesel. So that makes 120 pumps at my disposal, many of which are open 24 hours, meaning that on average, they have the potential to fill 1,440 ICE vehicles every hour to the brim if ever required to. That means if ever (not very likely, I grant you) I was called upon, like last night to do a 200 mile round trip to pick etc a family member, I could easily brim my tank and be on my way within minutes, and the same would certainly true for you if you had an ICE car, no need to drive further to a charger then waiting to stick 200 miles of power in the battery (assuming the charger was free and was of the right type and working) then that must also become one of the reasons why some folk don't buy EVs even when they clearly could be charging at home and taking advantage (for now at least) of the lower charging and running costs.

There needs to be some serious thinking about why this is the case and there are many reasons.

Going by what I have learned about the vast majority of the vehicles on the road / dirt tracks in Ethiopia and people's standard of living, I have trouble in believing this claim. They even have trouble in providing even the basics like a reasonable railway.

Haha, this was back in the 60s early 70s when they were run properly and were nationalised.

This is one of the reasons why I used to have to go into the bus depot earlier on freezing days to get the buses running for a while before passengers were allowed on them. The engines, once started run perfectly fine and smooth, not lumpy like the gas or petrol engine does until they are warm enough to run without the enriched mixture. Because diesels also run cooler, it was common practise to run buses for a while in the workshop after a rebuild without any cooling fluid in them, because it used to take so long to fill them and bleed the system as they heaters on the top decks and the engines were on the lower deck, that you did not want to have to fill, bleed and then drain it all down again if the engine still had problems.

Maybe so, I have not investigated the headlamp settings, only noticed the settings by change on the number plate and just assumed that all important lamps would be monitored similarly. Not knowing of the current drown by either Xenons or LEDs such a role, I just thought it was worthy of a mention in case such a warning was displayed.

Well in the words of Peter Stefanovic, imagine his surprise when he learns that the car is sold here in the UK. Here is UK link Meet our large SUV, the SEAT Tarraco | SEAT prices start at £33,450 and its their version of the Skoda Kodiak and the VW Tiguan.

On this point, I have to disagree with you all until you can produce actual hard evidence to the contrary. I have had a mild hybrid Nissan Qashqai for a couple of months, only had about 700 miles on the clock, and that could not and did not move at all under electric mode. What they do, do is, provided there is power stored in the battery, greatly enhance the acceleration on pull away, and that enhancement is very pronounced between a car that has been driven long enough to have built some charge and a car that has just depleted the stored energy after a couple of snappy accelerations when the snappiness disappears because the power has been used up and needs some regen to build the capacity again. This is the difference between a mild hybrid and a full hybrid, mild has a smaller battery and motor and uses regen to charge battery, then uses that stored energy on acceleration, similar to a F1 car with KERS. A full hybrid has a bigger battery and is capable of powering the car on its own upto a certain level and then beyond that level the engine kicks in to provide electric power to the motor and also recharges the battery, as soon as speed, battery charge level etc are right, the engine stops and the battery alone powers the car.

I mean that the cars electronics monitor the bulbs for failure or possible failure, hiving you early warning. It does my monitoring the current each bulb is drawing and in my cars system it has options different types of bulbs in various locations, for instance in the number plate lamps, I have the options of normal bulbs or LEDS and as LEDS draw far less current then incandescent bulbs, this makes perfect sense that the car needs to know what type of bulb you have fitted where? I was asking because I suspect that your LEDS will draw less power than the xenons would and might throw up the occasional error message.

WTF, even my 2 litre diesel only emits 119 gm/km and you're only talking of 1.6 litre engine.