Afternoon,

I've got some swirlies (very small, light haze like scratches) on my black magic Fabia that i'd like to get rid of. They're not that bad, just annoying at certain angles in direct sunlight and ideally i'd like to buff them out when i have some time over the coming weekend.

Can anyone suggest the best way of doing this, and what products to use? They're really not so bad that i'd want to take it to a professional. Was just thinking maybe some Super Resin Polish and a lot of elbow grease might sort it...

Help?

I'd be interested in this as well, as several lazy visits to car wash's has left my paintowrk less than admirable

Is an electric mop a good idea? The sort of thing that can be bought from halfords fairly inexpensively nowdays.

I nearly didn't buy my car 'cos of the swirls it had when new. IMO the Black Magic colour/effect is the worst for showing up imperfections in bright conditions.

J.

Here here, hate the way that every mark and imperfection shows through. Cant answer the original question though!

Well im glad everyone agree's! Anyone got ideas on how to sort it?!

you could use some AG resin and carefully work over the affected areas (which i had to do with my boot lid). Or find someone with a portacable (think thats what its called) and get them to carefully work them out for you.

Guys,

The only way to truly get rid of the swirls is to have your car paint corrected and then make sure you wash it correctly afterwards.

Glyn O'Donnell is the man who has done both our cars, which has transformed them - check out his blog here and site here.

When done properly, you get this

How much did that cost?

Best bet is to contact Glyn direct - it really depends on how bad your car is to start with

Do you know how far he travels? I notice your in Hull, i'm way down on the South Coast so assume it's a little too far! I know somebody has already asked, but do you mind posting how much your's cost so i have a rough idea of the cost involved?

If you cant afford a detail.

I'd recommend some Poorboys Super Swirl Remover 1.

Doesnt half get rid of swirls if you put your back into it.

www.detailedobsession.co.uk does it

Richie, I think the south coast may be a mile too far as you say!

As I said previously, just ring Glyn and he will quote you

why does nobody who has ever had their car detailed ever want to give away how much it cost them? it's pathetic.

If you cant afford a detail.

I'd recommend some Poorboys Super Swirl Remover 1.

Doesnt half get rid of swirls if you put your back into it.

www.detailedobsession.co.uk does it

Nice one, any suggestions for cloth and any other products for finishing the coat whilst i'm shopping on there?

The best advice I can give is to avoid those £5 Hand Car Washes - I used several and one of them runied my cars paint - left it covered in fine scratches which looked awful in the sunlight / artificial light - it was a complete mess.

Paint Correction is the best thing you can have done. It involves a decent wash, clay to remove everything from the surface of your paint then a multi-stage machine polish to remove those awful scratches then finally some wax protection.

I had my car done recently - I shopped around and found someone who quoted between £120-£160 for the exterior paintwork only. In the end I travelled to him and he worked on it for @ 6 hours and he did it for £110 as he was a perfectionist and only 98 percent happy with the finish. The end result was very good indeed - not perfect but more than acceptable considering the damage I had before. I could have paid for more man hours but I didn't feel it neccessary. Prices vary considerably - others were asking £250+ for the same service. My guy was near Norwich. I await some 50/50 shots from him to show before and after . . .

why does nobody who has ever had their car detailed ever want to give away how much it cost them? it's pathetic.

I was quoted mates rates at 125quid, a full detail is around 150+

Nice one, any suggestions for cloth and any other products for finishing the coat whilst i'm shopping on there?

Theres some polishing sponge / pads on there, i got a blue cubed one. Pretty good

And to prevent them coming back use the two-bucket method.

See A world for detailers...

Adam, it's not pathetic at all It just depends on the state of the car, your location and how long someone is going to spend on it.

Glyn charges around £300, depending on how far he has to travel. He uses the best products and has 15 years experience.

I hope this helps

The swirls are small scratches in the laquer, to take them out you have to smooth the laquer or paint surface out

if you looked at your paint surface in cross section under a microscope it would look like a mountain range the light reflects of this and you see the "valleys" as scratches

go to a motor factors and get some "G3" its the profesional version of "t cut ",not cheap but a big tub will last you forever once youve got it

also get a water sprayer youll need that as well

You can use a rotary polisher to save your elbows but you can burn through particularly on corners and edges, id use a polishing cloth and take the time for safety

Start on a less important panel (not the bonnet! orcar ifyou have spare) to start with until you get a feel for what you are doing

Get a dab of G3 on to your cloth or polisher spray the surface of the paint with plan water to dilute the g3 and startt rubbing- adding water but [COLOR="black"]not [/color]more g3 as you go

the idea is to dilute the action of the g3 as the scratches come out

you start to see as it happens the finer scratches go first and the deeper ones last

you have to keep at it and it takes time whcih is why the guys charge so much

learned this at car restoration college

So can anyone help me with my shopping list from Detailed Obession?

So far i have:

• Poorboy’s Super Swirl Remover SSR1 Light Abrasive Cut
  
• Poorboy’s Super Slick and Suds
  
• Poorboy’s Waffle Weave Drying Towel
  
• Poorboy's Micro-Fibre Round Applicator

Still not sure what to use for the Swirl Remover...and should i be finishing with a wax of some sort etc?!

Funny enough I did my car on Saturday and Sunday and got the sore neck to prove it.

I borrowed my mates porter cable and decided to give it a go less the orange cutting pad.

In a way not having the cutting pad could be strewn as a god send as no nasty burn marks appeared on my first attempt or holograms.

The best results by far are the rear sides, the worst with 60 - 70% correction was the tank top (its like tin foil ffs).

My advice is to buy either a megs or porter cable and give it a go yourself, you will save a lot of money but you will be hard pressed to get a finish like these professionals that do it day in day out and know what to do with less effort.

If you have the money then go for it and if not try it yourself if you like the self satisfaction on getting the end result.

On another note, sorry to hijack this thread but have you notice how much "orange peel" paint there is on the sides of Vrs's.

I have some G6 from when i sprayed my old old car back in the day...is that any good, or is it too course/fine Lewis?

Funny enough I did my car on Saturday and Sunday and got the sore neck to prove it.

I borrowed my mates porter cable and decided to give it a go less the orange cutting pad.

In a way not having the cutting pad could be strewn as a god send as no nasty burn marks appeared on my first attempt or holograms.

The best results by far are the rear sides, the worst with 60 - 70% correction was the tank top (its like tin foil ffs).

My advice is to buy either a megs or porter cable and give it a go yourself, you will save a lot of money but you will be hard pressed to get a finish like these professionals that do it day in day out and know what to do with less effort.

If you have the money then go for it and if not try it yourself if you like the self satisfaction on getting the end result.

On another note, sorry to hijack this thread but have you notice how much "orange peel" paint there is on the sides of Vrs's.

Agreed on the orange peel front, my car is pathetic, not as bad as my mates LCR, looks like its been rollerd on :eek: