Spent Saturday wandering around Halfords looking for 5W40 branded stuff, could only find Halfords own. So opted for 0W40 Mobil 1 Fully Synthetic for TurboDiesels - should be the same as a 5W40 only it's good down to -45C! Says it conforms to 501-00 - did see mention of it needing to pass 501-01, anyone know what the difference between the two is?

Yes. 501 00 is the wrong oil for a PD engine. 505 01 is the right oil. You need to forget about buying oil by SAE rating and look for the correct VW spec instead.

word of warning. New Vrs ?? pick the bonnet up and check the oil filler cap. mine came out of the dealer with a duff seal on the filler cap and blew a slick over the engine shield. Dealer cleaned it up and replaced cap as soon as I mentioned it

Any idea as to the best oil for the Fabia VRS? I've a new one with a Shell Helix sticker under the bonnet.

Any idea as to the best oil for the Fabia VRS? I've a new one with a Shell Helix sticker under the bonnet.

You can use any of the oils listed in the Article below:

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/article.php?a=81

I don't think you should have a Shell Helix sticker, though, since that oil is the wrong spec for your car (although it is fine for PD engines on variable servicing).

Mine has a Helix sticker too... you don't think they're on variable servicing do you Denis? :confused:

Mine has a Helix sticker too... you don't think they're on variable servicing do you Denis? :confused:

Unless there has been a change of spec to the latest Fabia vRS, then Skoda UK's reply below to a query about programming and/or modifying that model for variable servicing still applies. If you have a look at the vehicle data sticker inside the front cover of your car's Service Schedule, or the identical sticker on the boot floor next to the spare wheel well, you can confirm whether QG0 (fixed service intervals) or QG1 (variable service intervals) is listed. As for the Shell Helix sticker, Shell do produce a 505 01 oil called - appropriately - Shell 505.01 5W-40. It isn't one of their Helix variants though so I don't know why a Helix sticker is being used. Also Fuchs have been supplying the factory fill oil for some time - but maybe Shell do now. Perhaps all will be clearer once you have checked for QG0 or QG1.

The appropriate service regime is indicated on the vehicle data sticker, which can be found on the front page of the service schedule. Data stickers containing the code QG0 can only be operated in line with traditional fixed service intervals. Vehicles identified with the code QG1 are manufactured to a different technical specification, which allows them to operate a variable-servicing regime. It is not feasible to upgrade vehicles designated QG0, as the Fabia vRS is, to conform to this specification.

In order to operate a vehicle on a variable regime the ECU ( Engine Control Unit) requires four variables: the distance driven, engine load, engine speed and oil temperature. In order to measure the fourth variable, vehicles equipped with variable servicing capabilities are supplied with an additional sensor within the vehicle's sump that measures oil temperature. However, simply fitting this sensor to a vehicle designated GQ0 will not allow the vehicle to operate on variable servicing as the ECU will not be able to interpret the information.

In a vehicle designated QG1, the four variables are compared against electronic maps within the engine ECU which calculates the "S Wear" (a comparison of the oil temperature and engine speed) and "S Soot" (a comparison of the engine speed and load). These maps are not found within ECUs fitted to vehicles designated QG0.

In addition to the above, in order to interpret and display variable servicing information, vehicles designated QG1 are fitted with a different dash insert.

Finally, in order to allow the vehicle to operate safely for up to 2 years without inspection, the vehicles are supplied with low maintenance lead-calcium batteries (with visual status) and brake pad wear indicators.

Cheers Denis, I'll have a nose tomorrow and post it on here...

Cheers Denis, I'll have a nose tomorrow and post it on here...

Mine has helix sticker too,QGO in service schedule.

mines QGO

is some oils better than other (ie MPG or performance)

because ever since my 1st Service i lost about 5MPG and i've put it down to cheap oil

that was still 505.01 rating

so which of the following is best then for my little Furby vRS

VAG-branded 505 01 505 00 High Lubricity Engine Oil 5W-40 - G 052 167 A2

Fuchs Titan Supersyn SL PD SAE 5W-40 (fully synthetic)

Millers XFE-PD SAE 5W-40 (semi-synthetic)

Esso 505 01 5W-40

Castrol GTD 505 01 5W-40

BP Special Visco V 5W-40 (fully synthetic)

Motul 6100 5W-40

Madit 505 01

Migrol Special S-Plus

DEA Ultec Diesel SAE 5W-40

OMV syn com diesel

I would use a fully synthetic oil given the choice. The Fuchs and BP oils on the list are, and others may be too. That said, some members swear by Millers XF-PDE.

what they Swear cus it blows the engine up

sorry i had to say that

20k service interval????

5.5k from new, engine clattering like a good un, oil dipstick below minimum mark.

Note, mines the furby with the turbo that siezed after 500 miles. Also, had problems with temp sensor for fuel.

Dealer filled up with 'posh' oil, no charge, minimum fuss. 4th visit back to dealer so far..............................

20k service interval????

Not on Fabia vRS.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOooh, yes it is!!!!!

Well, thtas what the dealer told me when I picked it up from new. :confused:

Skoda UK - FAQs:

How frequently should I get my car serviced?

The service requirements will vary depending upon the model and engine. Fabia Models require a lubrication service at 10,000 miles and an inspection at 20,000 miles or 12 months whichever is sooner.

Being very forgetful please reassure me the warning light or buzzer does work!keep waking up in the night since reading this thread :eek: (done about 1800 miles so far)

Checking the oil level on my VRS at 6500 miles and it is still full. Judging from this thread I'm in a rather select club.

Checked mine at 500 miles - full

Checked again at 1,000 miles - still full

Started driving it properly...

Checked again yesterday - took nearly a litre to get back to the full mark

That was at 2,300 miles...

I believe the answer to the oil useage problem has been published by Honest John in last Saturday's Telegraph motoring section (1/1/2005). He claims in reply to a guy whose VW Bora was using a litre of oil per 1000miles (which is apparently acceptable VW).

Honest John states that 'VW Group fills its engines with Longlife Synthetic oil on the production line and new owners don't subsequently rev their engines hard enough. As a result, the oil rings do not bed into the bores properly and the engines become conspicuously thirsty where lubricant is concerned. The oil is formulated not to emulsify and block the engine's exhaust gas recirculation system, but this can lead to a shortfell in turbo lubrication.'

So the answer seems to be to warm the engine then give it a good caning but remember to simmer it at idle for a couple of minutes before shutting off (another Honest John tip) so as not to fry the turbo bearings.

He also recently pointed out that the TDi 90 and 110 VW engines have a habit of developing eliptical bores and burnig large amounts of lubricant if their injectors are not achanged at arount 80,000 miles. Comfort and Elegance drivers, you have been warned.

He also recently pointed out that the TDi 90 and 110 VW engines have a habit of developing eliptical bores and burnig large amounts of lubricant if their injectors are not achanged at arount 80,000 miles. Comfort and Elegance drivers, you have been warned.

Have you got a link to this? The Fabia (AFAIK!) doesn't use these TDi engines, these are only in the Octy. All the Fabia TDi's are PD engines, 1.4-75bhp, 1.9-100bhp and 1.9-130bhp - does this apply to them too?

Chris

Check out http://www.honestjohn.co.uk and the technical section and the forums. The original answer was in his column in the Telegraph on Staurday 18th December and mnetioned VWTDi90 and 110 diesel units , in response to a question from the owner of a smoking Seat Toledo TDi110.

I was concerned about my vRS engine and he emailed me the following 'This is a problem specific to the TDI 90 and TDI 110. The engine

in your car has a completely different camshaft operated pumpe duse

injection system.'

He's very good at coming back if you email him with technical stuff.

I was concerned about my vRS engine and he emailed me the following 'This is a problem specific to the TDI 90 and TDI 110. The engine

in your car has a completely different camshaft operated pumpe duse

injection system.'

That's reassuring then as all the Fabia TDI's use pumpe deuse (PD) so I can sleep easy again at night now - I'll be hitting 80k in about 6 months time

Chris

Fuchs Germany still provide the factory fill. The Shell sticker is put on in the UK as Fuchs is not available to UK Dealer network.

Cheers

Guy

Fuchs oil not available in the UK ? Maybe the 318 staff at Fuchs UK would be interested to know what they do. http://www.fuchs-oil.de/press_release.1.html?&no_cache=1&URL=/F/130415/PR/200501/975227.xml

Fuchs oil not available in the UK ? Maybe the 318 staff at Fuchs UK would be interested to know what they do. [url']http://www.fuchs-oil.de/press_release.1.html?&no_cache=1&URL=/F/130415/PR/200501/975227.xml[/url]

Perhaps you misread me?

I said "Through the dealer network", ie pop into a Skoda dealership and ask for some Fuchs and see what you get.

I know Fuchs in Stoke well, as it is also Silkolene's HQ.

Cheers

Guy.