HI Guys

looking for some help with the RSAP bonding. I have had my N95 connected no problem since i got the car. I have just upgraded to the Blackberry Bold and now I have problem. After some fiddling around, opening the phone so it listens for the bluetooth request I finally got the 16 digit access code, the phone then says it has connected successfully and promptly disconnects. The car then goes on to look for my previous connection. Any help is appreciated.

Also is there ant was of changing the display colours on the maxidot and the columbus screen?

I have the same issue with my MDA compact IV (HTC touch diamond). I can get the car and phone to see each other, accept the 16 code, and connect. But it only lasts a few seconds then disconnects and tries to connect again etc. It did once start to upload contacts, but then disconnected and hasn't done it since.

I know Skoda will say that it's not mentioned in the brochure as a compatible handset but the RSAp protocol is universal so to speak.

As per original poster, any advice would be greatly received

Do either of you have a SIM pin enabled? i.e. when you power the phone up, does it prompt you for your 4 digit pin.

If so, try disabling the PIN prompt, and see if this makes it any better.

Windows Mobile, in particular, does not seem to support the necessary handshake over rSAP to cater for PIN entry from the car.

Other than that, I've tried the latest WM 6.1 versions on the HTC Touch Cruise and HTC Touch Diamond, and they worked just fine with my Superb (with PIN disabled).

As for the Blackberry, I can't be much help here, as I don't have one.

Bagpuss.

No I don't have phone pin or sim pin enabled (not that safety conscious). Really annoying as I have two Diamonds, one with stock T-Mo rom and the other with a cooked ROM and they both exhibited the same failings; in that it gets connected then disconnects, searches, reconnects, connects for a mo then disconnects ad infinitum.

I shall did out a supposed older compatible Nokia and give it a go. If that does't work then I would lean towards the kit in the car...

All of the Nokias I've tried work just fine. It's the main reason I've switched back to my E71 from the iPhone.

I'm still hoping that Apple might do something about the terrible bluetooth support in the iPhone, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

As for the Touch Diamond, then I can only suggest you try a cooked ROM thats built on the latest WM6.1 components. This definitely worked for me, and at least one other person I know of.

Sorry I can't be any more help.

Bagpuss.

Hi Guys

My sim isnt protected by a pin either. Been reading a few forums and it seems like a problem throughout the VAG group, some people seem to have no issues once they enable the listen function others seem to have the same issues as me but with no resolution. I think I may hand the Blackberry back as I just got it on Sat and get the E71.

J121

I don't have much experience with the Blackberry, as my company won't allow it for security reasons (you have to give the network operator your e-mail login details for push to work).

However, the E71 is a great phone. Certainly the best QWERTY handset Nokia have ever built. The keyboard is fantastic, very easy to type on, and much easier for e-mail and SMS than my iPhone. Only downside is the poor inbuilt e-mail client, but the new Nokia Mail (still in beta) is much better. The best client I've found is still ProfiMail though, which in it's latest beta, is very, very good indeed.

Bagpuss.

Ias my company won't allow it for security reasons (you have to give the network operator your e-mail login details for push to work).

Bagpuss.

Your company's IT team are dense then.:P They could download and install the BES or BPS on their own e-mail server or a seperate dedicated box. Blackberry is the MOST secure of any of the mobile e-mail devices on the market you just need to implement it properly. People buying the Blackberry Internet Services consumer editions have to give the network operator the details, nobody else.

If they want to talk to somebody who knows what they are on about then I'd be happy to help !

Blackberry sounds a good choice.

Edited 9 December, 200817 yr by Chris Westy

Your company's IT team are dense then.:P They could download and install the BES or BPS on their own e-mail server or a seperate dedicated box. Blackberry is the MOST secure of any of the mobile e-mail devices on the market you just need to implement it properly. People buying the Blackberry Internet Services consumer editions have to give the network operator the details, nobody else.

If they want to talk to somebody who knows what they are on about then I'd be happy to help !

Ahh, but have you tried doing this without selling your soul to the devil.

It becomes somewhat more difficult when company policy won't allows Windows of any shape or form. It does mean that our sysadmins have time to do real work, instead of cleaning up malware every five minutes :P

Bagpuss.

In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates

Ahh, but have you tried doing this without selling your soul to the devil.

It becomes somewhat more difficult when company policy won't allows Windows of any shape or form. It does mean that our sysadmins have time to do real work, instead of cleaning up malware every five minutes :P

Bagpuss.

In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates

Lol , it will also work with Lotus Domino/Notes server so you can go off reservation to a degree. I think your company policies regarding Windows probably owe more to keeping a few Linux bods in jobs than real world economics but that really is going off topic.:P You shouldn't have to sell your soul for it at all - for small deployments you should be able to get all the software for free.

On the subject of the security I had to get RIMM in to explain to a major MoD contractor the security workings so I know how tough the government bods are to convince and it still wouldn't be allowed for anything seriously classified.

I'm hoping the Bold will work because I've ordered the bluetooth kit and my present Pearl definetly isn't rSAP as far as I can tell so it'll end up being the Bold I'll have to make work with it.:confused:

HI Guys

looking for some help with the RSAP bonding. I have had my N95 connected no problem since i got the car. I have just upgraded to the Blackberry Bold and now I have problem. After some fiddling around, opening the phone so it listens for the bluetooth request I finally got the 16 digit access code, the phone then says it has connected successfully and promptly disconnects. The car then goes on to look for my previous connection. Any help is appreciated.

Also is there ant was of changing the display colours on the maxidot and the columbus screen?

Does the phone need set to automatically 'answer a call' to communicate with the car? Is this the same problem that someone has raised on the Blackberry forum - watch here for a possible answer -

BlackBerry Support Community Forums - How do I set my Storm to autoanswer after 2 rings when connected via bluetooth to my car? - BlackBerry 9500 Series Smartphone - BlackBerry Storm - BlackBerry Support Community Forums

Does the phone need set to automatically 'answer a call' to communicate with the car? Is this the same problem that someone has raised on the Blackberry forum - watch here for a possible answer -

BlackBerry Support Community Forums - How do I set my Storm to autoanswer after 2 rings when connected via bluetooth to my car? - BlackBerry 9500 Series Smartphone - BlackBerry Storm - BlackBerry Support Community Forums

The short answer is no, you don't need to set it to automatically answer.

This is because of the way the Superb bluetooth works, which is different from most other cars. A bluetooth car kit is usually just a fancy hands free device. It makes using the phone safer and easier, but the phone it still responsible for all of the call set up and tear down, and all communication with the mobile network. Hence, if you set the phone up to answer after two rings, it will.

In the Superb, the only thing the phone does is provide the authentication details from your SIM card (using the rSAP protocol). The Columbus then works in concert with a GSM phone module and aerial which are installed in the car. In this scenario, the phone is no longer in control of the call, so setting it up to answer after two rings simply has no effect when you are bonded with the car.

It's a great setup when it works, but the implementation of rSAP across manufacturers does seem to be somewhat hit and miss.

Bagpuss.

stick with a slightly battered, 3 yr old nokia 6230i and you will have no problems !!!

then get an EeePC with wireless boradband dongle for reading your emails !

job done !

stick with a slightly battered, 3 yr old nokia 6230i and you will have no problems !!!

then get an EeePC with wireless boradband dongle for reading your emails !

job done !

Been there done that nothing, I repeat nothing, is as good for reading e-mail on the move as a Blackberry. Tried 3G dongles, Tried Windows Mobile devices, tried Nokia E61 with Nokia Intellisync but it Blackberry that always delivers the best experience.

Been there done that nothing, I repeat nothing, is as good for reading e-mail on the move as a Blackberry. Tried 3G dongles, Tried Windows Mobile devices, tried Nokia E61 with Nokia Intellisync but it Blackberry that always delivers the best experience.

surely a laptop / netbook with a decent keyboard and screen on 3G is better and more user friendly. or is mobile broadband not reliable ?

Pushing this one back to the top. I got the Nokia E71 thanks Baggy defo the best phone ive had. It syncs perfectly. I now have another issue, when turning on the car it sometimes doesnt bring up the option for Phone and sometimes some other areas like audio on the maxidot but i can use them fine through the main unit??? Any ideas anyone?