I like the way people are saying "yeah but IE does that now as well".. it only does it because other browsers have created competition.. otherwise M$ would still have you browsing in the same bug ridden heap of crap that is IE6!!

Do the world a favor and quit this IE is fine malarky, its on old out of date browser that causes me a head ache! FF, Opera, Safari take your pick they are all vastly superior browsers imo, even if you dont see the benefits right away, just think its one less person in the world causing designers head ache :P

Oh and as IE8 is now out.. does that mean we no longer have to support IE6? Better go delete that IE6 css file then.

And for those claiming how fast IE8 is...

Microsoft Corp is boasting about the performance speed of the IE8, but the new browser remains the slowest of the top five on the market.

According to JavaScript rendering tests run by Computerworld, the final version of IE8 is only slightly faster than the browser's Release Candidate 1, which Microsoft released in January.

According to the test findings (which appeared in Computerworld) Google Inc's Chrome led all browsers in the SunSpider tests, making it more than four times faster than IE8. Second was Mozilla Corp's Firefox 3.0.7, followed by Apple Inc's Safari 3.2.2 for Windows and Opera Software's Opera 9.63.

Firefox proved to be 59 per cent faster than IE8, while Safari was 47 per cent faster. Opera, the slowest non-Microsoft production browser, was still 38 per cent faster than IE8.

Walt Mossberg, the personal-technology columnist for The Wall Street Journal, criticised IE 8's performance in an All Things Digital post, "Microsoft claims IE 8 is very fast, but in my tests, speed and performance were its worst attributes. Using two computers, one running Windows XP and one running Windows Vista, I timed the loading of a half-dozen popular Web sites, plus two folders containing numerous news and sports sites. I repeated the test in IE 8, and in Firefox, Safari 4, and Chrome. In every case, IE 8 loaded the pages and folders more slowly than most of the other browsers, and in most cases, it came in dead last."

Incidentally, Microsoft said that its own speed tests prove Internet Explorer 8 (IE8) to be faster than both Firefox and Chrome.

Edited 24 March, 200917 yr by apinner

I usually try out any new browser that's mentioned on here, Chrome, Safari for windows, that one that Val goes on about all the time:rolleyes: But I always gravitate back to FF. It just works, and I'm so used to it now, I don't feel comfortable with any other browser.

I like the way people are saying "yeah but IE does that now as well".. it only does it because other browsers have created competition.. otherwise M$ would still have you browsing in the same bug ridden heap of crap that is IE6!!

Surely by that logic the sixth iteration of IE would never have been released in the first place?

As for being an old out-of-date browser...I notice FF still supports http://username:password@url whereas MS ditched that on account of it being pretty bad practice and somewhat of a vulnerability.

Whilst most of the criticism seems to centre around the implementation of web standards, I'm not aware of *any* browser which adheres perfectly to web standards - which is probably a good thing, given the standards aren't without flaw.

I'm not an IE-fanboy by any means but, as with every other browser, it has merits and detractions.

Personally I don't really care what serves my internet pages, whether they render perfectly or whether it takes 1 or 1.5 seconds to load the page.

Rob.

Some of us do not choose Intrenet Exploder, but have it forced upon us.

Who cares which one as long as you can open webpages and buy stuff. HP laptop came with IE7 on it so I use that - its fine. My father has a couple of other ones on his laptop and uses whichever button he hits first and can't tell the diffence, he is 77 though:) the techs might tell the difference, I might if I was shown, but I don't care:D

Is that your firewall?:P

Some of us do not choose Intrenet Exploder, but have it forced upon us.

because of it's ties to the OS, it's mostly the only way at applying group policies generated on the server.

because of it's ties to the OS, it's mostly the only way at applying group policies generated on the server.

Now explain why that stops me using a better browser as well.Actually, I've found a more fundamental problem that I can't work around so easily. All the format and edit controls are disabled, and there's a limit to how much I know about HTML tags.

Im not sure if IE has the add on features but as a social web designer there are many of the firefox add ons such as firebug and so on which make firefox even more useful again. I can just log on to whatever site i want change the code quickly see the outcome and if the result is what I'm looking for go and implement it into the correct file and upload. Also have a little app that allows me to use a unused gmail account as a free file host (7gb free online storage). An there's much more too. Personally I tend to just avoid anything microsoft if its possible including there operating system. Don't think I have ever had a single good experience with microsoft and I was a microsoft user for 9 years, once you go mac you wont go back :thumb:

Now explain why that stops me using a better browser as well.Actually, I've found a more fundamental problem that I can't work around so easily. All the format and edit controls are disabled, and there's a limit to how much I know about HTML tags.

Sounds like javascripts disabled as part of your group policy.

Things like this cant be controlled by the admins if you use another browser, which is why any admin worth their salts would lock you from installing apps and changing settings to prevent you ditching IE.

Pretty sure IE also can report back what you've been upto, even when connected to another network.

We're not restricted as our laptops dont connect to the work network, and we need full admin to run the apps that connect to our equipment. They can audit them and disable remotely, as we often get reminders not to install programs like utorrent etc.

Can you use USB memory sticks Ken?

Did you know you can run FF from a usb stick? Mozilla Firefox, Portable Edition | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB drives

Taaa Daaaa.. you dont have to be tied to IE after all!

Foxmarks is reason enough on it's own to use Firefox.

I've lost count of the number of times I've lost all my saved bookmarks when a PC has died or been rebuilt.

Foxmarks lets you back up all your bookmarks automatically and share them across multiple PCs if you like and is a work of genius.

Can you use USB memory sticks Ken?

Did you know you can run FF from a usb stick? Mozilla Firefox, Portable Edition | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB drives

Taaa Daaaa.. you dont have to be tied to IE after all!

But if account policies are restricted, then he may not be able to run the exe.

U3 is not my favourite thing.

Some of us do not choose Intrenet Exploder, but have it forced upon us.

Which is why I'm currently browsing on Mozilla via my memory stick! SurfControl? DFTS!

FWIW, I use IE7 on my XP laptop, and soldier on with IE6 (*burn him!*) on my Win2000 desktop. I like the tabs in Mozilla / IE7+, but I really don't see what the big deal is... :ne_nau:

Oh, and as far as bookmarks go, I've only ever used them on Opera on my phone. If I can find the website once through Google, I can find it again IMHO!