what are your thoughts guys on these rsx's?

I heard they are pretty good.....not v3 good, but better than most!

spax

Edited 6 May, 200917 yr by sweedish

Looking at the applications list,no mention of Octavia vRS or 4x4?

Personally I would go for the Weitec Hicon GT`s, this is what I have had on mine for over six weeks now, they are cheaper than the Spax, and dare I say it probably better? I love these coilovers, best suspension I have had on any car so far(and I`ve had three kits) handle superb, and don`t rattle your teeth out. Best ride/handling combo for me:)

I know what you mean, my head tells me the weitec should be better, but the rsx offers a lot more for the money, basically like v3s in terms of adjustability etc, and i have been told by a couple of people that they are a consideration for the money and are not like the 'old' spax...

I have emailed them asking about vrs fitment.......we shall see!

I know what you mean, my head tells me the weitec should be better, but the rsx offers a lot more for the money, basically like v3s in terms of adjustability etc, and i have been told by a couple of people that they are a consideration for the money and are not like the 'old' spax...

I have emailed them asking about vrs fitment.......we shall see!

Spax RSX will not fit the VRS. They do not have the VRS anti roll bar link bracket on them. VRS's, Golf R32 and Audi TT all need the Anti roll bar brackets on them. All the other versions of Octavia Golf Audi don't.

I have been in touch with Spax when I was searching for Suspension for my VRS and I have had 3 different sets of suspension on my car. The best all round value for money and handling has to be the weitec hicon GT's coil overs. For none Coilovers it is Koni FSD's with H&R springs.

From my experience anyway

rgds

thatnks for the info guys, well spax havent come back to me so looks like same old sH7tty service from them, plus if they dont make a part for the sportier models of a range ie the vrs/cupra r or s3 whats the point of making parts at all!

I did think that might be the case as could find no listing for the vrs.......odd though!

Am thinking weitec over aps, as i know they have an issue if the bumpstops are not reduced or taken out, thing is 2 suppliers told me AP are identical to the weitecs!

i put weitecs on my vrs a few weeks back after much trawling the internet researching. I decided to take the advice of fellow vrs owners on this forum, and i must say i'm very glad that i did. The weitecs are a really nice bit of kit, really well made and have transformed the cars handling, fair enough they are hard, but not overly hard. i would certainly recommend them.

if ou find them a bit choppy then you can lift them a few mm and it makes a big diff to the ride lol.

weitecs are ace for the money.

and mine are still good after nearly a year.

and they are easy to adjust on the car and fit yourself

billy

Am thinking weitec over aps, as i know they have an issue if the bumpstops are not reduced or taken out, thing is 2 suppliers told me AP are identical to the weitecs!

Weitecs are not the same as AP's. AP's / Weitec and KW's are all built by the same company in Germany but not on the same line and not with the same parts.

AP are a budget coilover aimed at a cheap coilover market. There set up means different handling to the weitec and KW fitments. They are also not recomended for VRS and they can not be lowered to suit the VRS lower stance to the none VRS Octavia model range, without serious handling issues anyway. Weitec are a mid range coilover that are good value for money and very good handling characteristic. They offer plenty of adjustment to suit VRS. Only thing different to the KW's is they are not zinc plated(Think that is correct) that would improve corrosion , which would increase there value up to near the KW's. Both Weitec and KW offer superior levels of handling adjustment to shocks and spring platforms on there fully adjustable ranges again something AP don't.

The VRS is a fussy car for suspension and buying cheaper variants does not pay on this model car, as been found out by various folks on here.

hope this helps.

sounds right mate,

think the diff is the KW are stainless steel and the Weitecs are galvanised steel with a protective coat that comes off after a bit so will rust. but I if you prep them first then they will be fine for as long as the shocks last id say,(well I hope so ne way)

billy

cheers for the info guys, i will def be fitting them and will not look at the aps now, on the weitecs although the supplier i contacted for spax said they do list for a vrs and have the specific mounts for the arb/droplinks.......he suggested they were a decent kit of kw ish quality.........(though he would say that), i just like the idea of full on car adjustability....in that sense they are more adjustable than the v3seven though the v3s will be better overall without a question of a doubt (and the weitiecs which for a similar price offer no adjustability other than height) !

cheers for the info guys, i will def be fitting them and will not look at the aps now, on the weitecs although the supplier i contacted for spax said they do list for a vrs and have the specific mounts for the arb/droplinks.......he suggested they were a decent kit of kw ish quality.........(though he would say that), i just like the idea of full on car adjustability....in that sense they are more adjustable than the v3seven though the v3s will be better overall without a question of a doubt (and the weitiecs which for a similar price offer no adjustability other than height) !

What is it you want the adjustability for exactly? I know a lot of people want V3s because they're THE thing, and that's cool if you that's what you want. But if you don't need all the extras and just wanna get low, the Weitecs will be fine.

because i run v2s on my golf and they do make a difference, ie when ultra firm, they are really not great for everyday driving but soft are near regular comfort and for this reason in my everyday car i like the idea of being able to change setting.

My friend has v3s on his 4x4 and they are great, but not adjustable fully on the car which means in reality you are not likely to adjust, just thought something that can be adjusted on the car means that when i need comform i have it and when i need firm i can have that too.

Prob is, i have champagne taste and a lambrini budget.......

because i run v2s on my golf and they do make a difference, ie when ultra firm, they are really not great for everyday driving but soft are near regular comfort and for this reason in my everyday car i like the idea of being able to change setting.

My friend has v3s on his 4x4 and they are great, but not adjustable fully on the car which means in reality you are not likely to adjust, just thought something that can be adjusted on the car means that when i need comform i have it and when i need firm i can have that too.

Prob is, i have champagne taste and a lambrini budget.......

Fair play. I wouldn't have the patience myself, but my car is expressly a daily and I don't do track days. If that's what you want, perhaps the best thing is to save, until you DO have the budget!

well my vrs is not a track car, but the fact everything can be adjusted on the car is appealing as it allows for easy change of setting depending what i want from the car at the time, for example when i drive to italy, i can have it set to comfort and when i get to where my parents house is in the mountains i can adjust and firm up the suspension to make the most of the roads which are just amazing.

I know what you mean, if i could justify it it would be v3s, i already have v2s and they are awesome and i have been in several octavias with v3s and they are awesome too, its just lets face it the vrs suffers with limited choice when it comes to tuning products, like the 4x4. There are so few products out there and we all tend to go with the same bits its difficult to get an idea of how alternative products work on our car.

Its between the weitecs and the rsx now, i want to hear back from amd (who suggested these as a decent kit for our cars) to see how they perform on other Vag cars out there...

I also need to speak to Mike to see if he has fitted any at IP.

well my vrs is not a track car, but the fact everything can be adjusted on the car is appealing as it allows for easy change of setting depending what i want from the car at the time, for example when i drive to italy, i can have it set to comfort and when i get to where my parents house is in the mountains i can adjust and firm up the suspension to make the most of the roads which are just amazing.

I know what you mean, if i could justify it it would be v3s, i already have v2s and they are awesome and i have been in several octavias with v3s and they are awesome too, its just lets face it the vrs suffers with limited choice when it comes to tuning products, like the 4x4. There are so few products out there and we all tend to go with the same bits its difficult to get an idea of how alternative products work on our car.

Its between the weitecs and the rsx now, i want to hear back from amd (who suggested these as a decent kit for our cars) to see how they perform on other Vag cars out there...

I also need to speak to Mike to see if he has fitted any at IP.

It does come down to your own preference at the end of the day. Just because folks on here have not fitted SPAX RSX does not make them a bad choice, but these spax were never listed for VRS unless more recently they have added them and be careful they are not the MK2 VRS ones. Maybe if you get response back from Spax dealer and all sounds good then go for it. Be nice to have comments of an alternative suspension choice. Us folks on here tend to go for tried and tested routes. My weitecs are probably wound down further than most and still offer me tight and controlled handling. The Mother does not like them though:rofl: she tends to fall into the car as it's low, Also more recently I think that the wishbone bushes(powerfles ones) have taken a strain as the angle of the wishbone has changed in relation to the height of the car forcing the bushes upwards. TT ones going in soon.

I had mine right down at first and they were ace and I oved the look. I then raised her up bout 10mm for better clearance on humps and I have found that the drive is now a lot better and more compfortable lol.

I looked agt gettin the RSX on a few years ago before I was on the forum and couldnt find them for the car so never bothered. I was gonna get them for the same reason but I decided against as

1. not listed for the car

2. I dont know enough about damping and rebound and all that

thats why I went for Weitec as I am sure that they are set up for a good all round package.

I am also interested to see what they are like if you fit them.

billy

I presume now that people are buying Weitecs in preference to the FSD/spring combo because of the price difference?

I'm not all that bothered about being down there anymore. I've done it before and whilst the handling was great and it looked awesome, the ride was bad and I had all sorts of geometry, camber and so forth issues.

I'm sure when I used to search on here, everything felt the FSDs and springs were almost as good as stock ride with greatly improved handling? Sure no adjustability, but in theory, the damping element of that, should take care of itself, no?

Am still trying to decide......can get the spax for about 560, and the weitec are about 100 less....

I just know the weitecs are good, and the spax are still unknown, they just promise a lot on paper, i cant help but think will they fail to deliver.

As far as i can tell the fsd work better on smoother roads and can have trouble adapting to undulating roads that are so common here in the uk.

I didnt consider them as i feel a coilover will be a more flexible option, however i have had 2 tuners tell me they dont suggest using them on the vrs due to unhappy previous customers........however, i think there are some happy owners with them on here, so as usual it comes down to personal preference and driving style i guess!

I presume now that people are buying Weitecs in preference to the FSD/spring combo because of the price difference??

Not sure that people are moving to Weitec over FSD's/H&R's, as these are still fav out there for all over comfort and handling.

certainly typically the case for people moving from standard set up.I think that folks that have had the FSD's peviously see the weitecs as a step upwards to a tighter stronger handling package that offers adjustment.

I'm sure when I used to search on here, everything felt the FSDs and springs were almost as good as stock ride with greatly improved handling? Sure no adjustability, but in theory, the damping element of that, should take care of itself, no?

I agree and for most cases as above folks would find that option good enough.

People that wish to either push there cars on a track or just feel they can suffer a bit of negative comfort level for a firmer feeling ride will upgrade.

sweedish appears to have done his homework and basically knows what he wants out of handling.

Just which ones will he go for.

Shall we have a sweep stake??

I am going for the Spax. go on try them out...

Interesting! Thanks Bowders.

I think you'll find the FSD/springs combo will be similar to Spax or possibly more money. At this point, I feel like if I were to upgrade, it would be FSDs and springs, because I want to retain the balance of comfort and lowering more than 40mm is uneccessary for me.

Would be interesting to see what happens if you get the Spax. This place is funny! It's kinda like the UKMKIVs of Skodas, in that everyone has their "certain way" of doing things and certain mods that are the done thing. Not saying that's wrong. I've just never known anything like it with anything prior to the MKIV Golf.

well, i can get the spax at even better price now and have had some feedback on them now (albeit on a mk4) however i think i am gonna give them a go, gotta wait till next month as i am collecting other bits like r32 front arb and new top mounts and bushes.....

You guys are right though, we ll tend to do the same, human nature i guess........! I just like the fact the perches etc are stainless and the adjustability is there too.......bowders.....i think you will be right!

Edited 20 May, 200917 yr by sweedish

lol

I think that the reason ppl dont like the coilovers is that they are very stiff compared to dampers n springs.

I got them as I couldnt find a spring that only lowered a small amount. most only lowered the car even front and rear. but I mainly wanted to close the gap at the front as I recon the rear is a nice hight.

each to their own

PLZ let us all know how they are. as I recon they could become a cheaper alternative to the KWv3??????

billy

Any news, I'm dying to hear what you've got and what they're like?!

lol.......no not yet mate as not buying till next month, collecting bits......r32 front arb bought, bushes then coilys next!