Hi everyone.

I have at Octy II from 2005, its an ambiente model with manuel aircon:thumbdwn:, i was thinking about changing the manuel aircon to an automatic climate control:thumbup:, as sold on the elegance model...

Now is this actually possible, i dont think it would not be a problem to get the parts i need used...

Best regards...

No i don't think it is possible realistically, been covered a few times on here,

Most things are possible but it'd be cheaper to PX your car in against one that has got climate, personally I don't reckon much to climate control, had it both my last cars and i still prefer manual aircon

I agree. There's more to it than just changing the control unit: you need extra sensors and all sorts...

Ok... many thanks for the quick answer...

It is impossible to do without stripping the car out and rebuilding it all with the new unit in.

The manual aircon is operated by a cable called a barlan cable iirc.

The climatronic is all controlled electrically.

You would need all sorts of new electrics, sensors, control module for ECU if not a new ECU. The cost to do it would be Astronomical. I looked into it and it was around about £4k :eek:

TBH apart from aesthetics having been in a car with climatronic and mine having climatic there is no difference in the temp the car is cooled too. I dont know anyone who has diff temps either side of the car and anything over 2 degrees (no matter what the bumf etc says) then the whole car is the same temp.

Carl:thumbup:

TBH apart from aesthetics having been in a car with climatronic and mine having climatic there is no difference in the temp the car is cooled too. I dont know anyone who has diff temps either side of the car and anything over 2 degrees (no matter what the bumf etc says) then the whole car is the same temp.

It isn't about the temperature on each side of the car it's about getting different temperature air from the vents.

SWMBO hates cool air blowing at her so we will often have passenger side set to 22 deg and drivers side set to 17 deg this gives her warm/temperate air while I get cool air from the fascia vents

get her a nice jumper

TBH apart from aesthetics having been in a car with climatronic and mine having climatic there is no difference in the temp the car is cooled too. I dont know anyone who has diff temps either side of the car and anything over 2 degrees (no matter what the bumf etc says) then the whole car is the same temp.

Carl:thumbup:

Does the Climatic system actually regulate temperature like the Climatronic does? I.e. with Climatronic, if I set it to 20deg, the system will always aim to get the air temp to 20deg, whether it's hot or cold outside etc. Does the Climatic have the ability to do this, or is the vented air temperature not regulated in such a way?

It's not perfect but I like this system. I just keep it between 19 and 20deg the vast majority of the time, and the car just looks after the climate for me.

On the subject of dual zone, I wasn't bothered about it, but I do actually like the car cooler than my wife, so on long trips it's actually quite a nice feature for us.

Im assuming it does riph as the dial has 3 temps written on it 18,22,27 degrees and then lines in between. So i would imagine say for example i set it at 22 degrees it keeps the car at 22 degrees. Could be wrong but dont see the point of the temps on if it doesnt.

I know that whenever i set it wherever i want the temp it generally keeps the car at a constant temp.

HTH

Carl:thumbup:

Im assuming it does riph as the dial has 3 temps written on it 18,22,27 degrees and then lines in between. So i would imagine say for example i set it at 22 degrees it keeps the car at 22 degrees. Could be wrong but dont see the point of the temps on if it doesnt.

I know that whenever i set it wherever i want the temp it generally keeps the car at a constant temp.

HTH

Carl:thumbup:

Do those temperature settings control the vent output temperature though, or the cabin temperature? The difference being that if it's only vent output temp that is controlled, it won't compensate for cabin conditions.

I'm not saying it doesn't, but I'm pointing out that this may be where the difference between the two systems lies?

In that case pass:confused:

But like i said earlier i aint fussed as they both do the same i.e cool or heat the car as thats all i need hence i didnt opt for dual zone.

They only other plus side apart from Aesthetics is that it does help the resale of the car but not by much.

Carl:thumbup:

Think you'll find the climatic does regulate the interior temp. My old Ambiente showed this on long-ish runs over the last winter. If you set the temp at say 20, then you could definitely feel the temp from the vents drop once it got close to the required temp.

The main difference I noticed is that you'd have to manually turn on the air-con if required, and the system does not control the speed of the fan like the climatronic.

Hope this helps,

Martin

Think you'll find the climatic does regulate the interior temp. My old Ambiente showed this on long-ish runs over the last winter. If you set the temp at say 20, then you could definitely feel the temp from the vents drop once it got close to the required temp.

The main difference I noticed is that you'd have to manually turn on the air-con if required, and the system does not control the speed of the fan like the climatronic.

Hope this helps,

Martin

Sounds like Climatic is regulating the cabin temperature then.

I must say though, I do like the Climatronic system. Just hit AUTO and then apart from a nudge up/down of temperature now and again, you don't really have to do anything.

But then saying that, I've come from a car that didn't even have air-con, to a car with full climate control. I missed out the middle-step! So I might have been quite happy with Climatic too...

I drive my passat with climatronic and drive a pd105 SE with climatic at work and set them both to 18 and i never need touch them again, I wouldnt pay extra for climatronic

I drive my passat with climatronic and drive a pd105 SE with climatic at work and set them both to 18 and i never need touch them again, I wouldnt pay extra for climatronic

Now that I know that Climatic regulates cabin temp, the benefits of Climatronic seem less attractive (considering you normally have to pay for them). That said, it was standard equipment on my car anyway.

Fully automatic systems are capable of other less obvious tricks (I don't know which of these Climatronic does, I'm speaking generally) though, such as purging cold air on very cold days (i.e. won't blast you with cold air on startup in winter), or single button press defrosting, but I wouldn't pay the asking price for Climatronic as an option for these, it's not cheap!

The dual zone thing though is certainly more valuable if the car is used with someone in the passenger seat regularly. Means no arguements over the cabin temperature (which I know from experience, can be an issue!!).

Climatronic also takes into consideration bright sunlight. Lets say it's coolish day but the sun is beating through the windows.