Skip to content

Nokia N95 to T-Mobile Compact V (AKA HTC Touch DIamond2)

Featured Replies

After reading about all the issues with the N97, I have taken the decision to try a WM based mobile, so next week I should be getting a shiny new T-Mobile Compact V

T-Mobile Compact V Overview - Pay Monthly - T Mobile

Spec looks good, and has GPS built in. Hopefully wont regret it but I'll still have the N95 if it doesnt work out.

Also managed to negotiate the upgrade price of the phone down from over £100 to almost nothing and reduce the price and improve my current tariff.

The Touch Diamond 2 is like the Touch HD without a Qwerty keyboard isnt it?

We just ordered one at work, certainly looks good.

  • 3 weeks later...
  • Author

At long last the handset arrived today, pretty impressive although still experimenting at the moment.

I see they've adopted the G1 and G2 "chin" onto their other handsets now have HTC.

Looks pretty nice although after using Android for a bit now I couldn't go back to the faffy GUI of Windows Mobile. Constantly having to use the stylus to tap inside little boxes and menus was tedious!

Still have my old phone though that I use as my sat nav with TomTom on (MDA Vario 3 or HTC Tytn II).

Still a very nice phone though and sounds like you got a good deal.

Phil

  • Author

The touchflo interface seems to mean, no need for the stylus. I have hardly used it yet.

I had an HTC Touch Diamond for a year and it performed well - Once I'd got rid of the Vodafone firmware.

  • Author

I might be looking to dump the t-mobile branded firmware and replace with generic diamond 2 firmware, if I can workout how. T-mobile have crippled the firmware on yet another phone and removed a lot of WM6.1 features. I really want to get VOIP sip back so that I can use truphone over wireless.

I might be looking to dump the t-mobile branded firmware and replace with generic diamond 2 firmware, if I can workout how. T-mobile have crippled the firmware on yet another phone and removed a lot of WM6.1 features. I really want to get VOIP sip back so that I can use truphone over wireless.

Head over to xda developers should be plenty of info on how to unlock the phone so you can put a custom rom on it. Had a quick look on the topaz forum and there are more roms than you can shake a stick at. I believe you'll need hard-spl to unlock the phone so it will accept a new rom first. Just read up on doing so before hand and follow the instructions very carefully if you don't want a fancy paperweight.

Yep XDA Dev is the place to be for ROMs and help.

Yup! Another vote for XDA Fev forums. They have helped me flash many windows mobile device in the past and most recently Root my G1. The first thing I have usually done with windows mobile phones is get rid of the awful branding from it.

Phil

Yup! Another vote for XDA Fev forums. They have helped me flash many windows mobile device in the past and most recently Root my G1. The first thing I have usually done with windows mobile phones is get rid of the awful branding from it.

Phil

What you don't like T mobiles pink scheme!

  • Author

To the untrained eye, there is no obvious branding on the compact v handset. The obvious things are a T-Mobile logo on the startup and shutdown screens, and some t-mobile shortcuts which you cannot remove on the touchflo interface. In the background things are different though. The t-mobile handset is missing VOIP/sip, the ability to change some network settings, and some other small minor issues with regards to the internet and not being able to alter the opera start page.

I dont really get this hard-spl thing, it looks to complicated. I wonder if I can just flash the bog standard HTC firmware release over the top of the t-mobile one.

To the untrained eye, there is no obvious branding on the compact v handset. The obvious things are a T-Mobile logo on the startup and shutdown screens, and some t-mobile shortcuts which you cannot remove on the touchflo interface. In the background things are different though. The t-mobile handset is missing VOIP/sip, the ability to change some network settings, and some other small minor issues with regards to the internet and not being able to alter the opera start page.

I dont really get this hard-spl thing, it looks to complicated. I wonder if I can just flash the bog standard HTC firmware release over the top of the t-mobile one.

In a word, No. It will be tied to the carrier and won't let you put a non t-mobile rom onto it. It shouldn't be too complicated to do, you just have to follow the instructions to the letter. You would need to get hold of the standard HTC rom in the first place as well, you can't download it from the HTC website without a valid serial number for a carrier free handset. So you would need to know someone with a suitable handset or get a vanilla rom from xda developers.

I have done it on previous handsets including an old MDA Vario without any hitches.

  • Author

I have managed to Hard-SPL my phone using the file from xda developers, so next stage is to find a rom appropriate for my needs.

Cool! See it really is easy if you follow the guides on there.

There should be a few... it's just finding the right one that you are happy with. It may take a couple of attempts to get one that suites your needs fully though I found.

Phil

  • Author

Phew, that was close. Just tried to update the radio to a newer version, after reboot I had no HSDPA and the internet would not work. Flashed back to oem version, internet still didnt work. Had to resend all the settings to the handset via the t-mobile website to get it all working again.

That's probably because the roms and radio stacks aren't specific to any network. I could never the t-mobile website to actually send me the settings but fortunately they are listed on the Modaco website.

Also you do run a bit more of a risk of things going pear shaped if you update the radio and rom separately. It depends on what base rom was used by the cooks, different roms had different radio versions originally and the results can be a bit patchy sometimes. It does also get a bit dificult though to read through dozens of pages on xda dev to try and find out if certain combinations work or not. Saying that I managed to get a lot more stability and signal strength from a rom cooked up by someone on xda dev than the official t-mob one.

I flashed my HTC ttyn2 thingy to an O2 ROM and using my T-Mobile SIM with no problems.

The TMobile ROM didnt have MSN but the O2 one did.

  • Author

Discovered a small issue today, but with T-Mobile not the phone. When they changed my Tarrif, they forgot to add the free W&W so I had £8 worth of unbilled data on my account. Quick call to India this afternoon and its all sorted, the W&W has been added and the unbilled data charges cancelled.

Quick call to t mobile??? What about the ten minutes of choosing options before being put through to someone who doesn't know how to help, and despite having an extremely strong indian accent tries to convince you their names is in fact Kevin.

  • Author

I was literally on the phone for 5 mins at the most, including navigating the phone menu system. Got through to customer services in India straight away, no queue and she knew exactly what to do. A few mins tapping away on her PC, clearing a lot of small data charges and it was all done.

These handsets really like to consume data, which is something I need to sort before going abroad to Italy this weekend. I have a foolproof method that will stop the phone initiating a data connection, by telling it to use the activesync/wifi port only for data.

What I did on my G1 when I went to Australia is actually just change the URL of the APN so that it couldn't actually initiate a data connection and so there was no 2G/3G icon even there and obviously no data used.

That is a fool proof way to do it as then it actually can't even get a data connection rather than setting it to use something else but still having the connection there.

Glad they god your problem sorted out nice and quick.

phil

I was literally on the phone for 5 mins at the most, including navigating the phone menu system. Got through to customer services in India straight away, no queue and she knew exactly what to do. A few mins tapping away on her PC, clearing a lot of small data charges and it was all done.

These handsets really like to consume data, which is something I need to sort before going abroad to Italy this weekend. I have a foolproof method that will stop the phone initiating a data connection, by telling it to use the activesync/wifi port only for data.

got to the modaco website and look for a program called NoData - works great, it does what it says on the tin and disables the data connections. I used it when I went abroad recently and it worked perfectly. And it's free...

  • Author

Well, I bit the bullet Tuesday night and now the T-Mobile software is gone.

I have flashed the rom with one from XDA-Developers (TESS 2.0 as it was more or less stock). I obviously lost the use of the Copilot nav software. which I dont miss as it was not that great. I have installed Tomtom 7 instead anyway. So far so good, seems better and more user friendly than the original rom.

I have also replaced the small capacity 2GB MicroSD the phone came with. The slot now sports a 16GB Sandisk MicroSDHC card, so I now have some space for music and video files.

I'll checkout Modaco, I am a registered user over there. Just signed in, was it really that long ago since I logged in there.

Welcome back! Your last visit was: Jul 16 2004, 19:09

Edited by mannyo

Create an account or sign in to comment

Recently Browsing 0

  • No registered users viewing this page.

Important Information

Welcome to BRISKODA. Please note the following important links Terms of Use. We have a comprehensive Privacy Policy. We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.

Account

Navigation

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.