After researching a few cars I am considering what to upgrade to in the future when I come to selling my vrs, I am looking for something similar to the vrs's torque and feel but faster as stock with good mpg, low insurance and practicality, so here are my final 4

BMW

320d sport

330d sport

A3 sport back

2.0 TDI (170ps) Quattro S Line 5d or same in Sport

Leon

1.9 TDi FR/Cupra (150ps)

which would you recommend?

Edited 6 August, 200916 yr by RallySport150

Do you 'need' a bigger car? I cant see how a 320d will faster than a vRS myself.

The 330d will be faster but drink more, and cost more to run, id go A3 out of that list with 4WD and a nice map

325i - forget diesels

325i - forget diesels

Idrove a 330ci m-sport, although it handled well it just didn’t have that torque feel in a straight line

What's the budget?

I can't see why you've over looked the new model Leon FR at 170 bhp for the old 150 one, and excluded the BMW 123d with +200 bhp yet put the similar sized Audi on the list and some larger BMW's.

That sounds critical, but I don't mean to be. Just trying to get a handle on your choices......

What's the budget?

I can't see why you've over looked the new model Leon FR at 170 bhp for the old 150 one, and excluded the BMW 123d with +200 bhp yet put the similar sized Audi on the list and some larger BMW's.

That sounds critical, but I don't mean to be. Just trying to get a handle on your choices......

up to 15k

either of the leons 150bhp or 170bhp

Seen numerous recommendations for a 330d on forums, also had a debadged one surprise me in my old VX. Motorway acceleration was immense.

I found a 330D slightly slower from 30-100+ up a hill than a remapped PD130.....

Tavia vRS CR170?

I found a 330D slightly slower from 30-100+ up a hill than a remapped PD130.....

God knows what it was then :confused:, maybe a petrol. Would still choose the beemer I think.

the 330d remapped and an efficient dynamics one at that it will absolutely decimate virtually anything else burning oil 300bhp 500 ft/lb torque 330d remap ecu - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum - E90Post.com and still give decent mpg (46mpg) i would have one in a heartbeat if i could afford it

I can't see any of them being low on insurance. :confused:

all good getting a E90/91/92 bmw 3 series with a remap until it comes in for a software update and wipes the map!

sirocco?

the new golf gtd is nice

So........ Back to the 4 cars the OP had narrowed it down to.........

For me it'd be the Audi. I don't need the space of the 330d, I don't trust Seat to have the same build quality as the rest of the VAG group, and living in S. Wales where it never stops raining the quattro system is also appealing. But that's just my 2 pennies worth.

....Why not something with the winged arrow badge? Octavia vRS PD170?

BMW diesels are the sweetest sounding, smoothest and most refined diesels out but is it needed to pay the premium for one? Unless you do the motorway miles its not worth it?

Edited 7 August, 200916 yr by Skoda-Msport

I found a 330D slightly slower from 30-100+ up a hill than a remapped PD130.....

Depends what age 330d it was, as that unit's been through a fair few revisions; 184bhp through to the current 245!

It would be the A3 from that list for me. But given a slightly wider list I'd probably have a 123d M-Sport 3dr...

Steve

So........ Back to the 4 cars the OP had narrowed it down to.........

For me it'd be the Audi. I don't need the space of the 330d, I don't trust Seat to have the same build quality as the rest of the VAG group, and living in S. Wales where it never stops raining the quattro system is also appealing. But that's just my 2 pennies worth.

Gonna stick up for the Seats here as I have one (Granted it is a 51 Plate Toledo) but it has been rock solid and extremely well built. Nothing has come off and the small issues I have had (Dyeing convenience unit the biggest one) have plagued all of the VAG Range.

However, the new Altea and Leon don't feel like they'll last the course like mine :(

How about a 1 series 120D, 163bhp, remap to 215bhp. Tad small inside space though.

Astra mk5 888

Some good cars here, i guess the ultimate would be the 330d but it will cost more, next would be the A3 as its at the top of the VAG group for quality + 4WD and then the LEON as its the cheapest out of the 3.

I prefer the old LEON's styling to new one so it would be the 150

If I’m not bothered about practicality = 123d coupe, don’t like the hatchbacks style

Don’t like the styling of the Octy VRS PD 170

all good getting a E90/91/92 bmw 3 series with a remap until it comes in for a software update and wipes the map!

how often would it need a software update?

Depends what age 330d it was, as that unit's been through a fair few revisions; 184bhp through to the current 245!

It would be the A3 from that list for me. But given a slightly wider list I'd probably have a 123d M-Sport 3dr...

Steve

probably the 03+ 204bhp