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Hi,

Don't know if anyone can help?

I don't think the brakes on my Furby are working properly. My wife has allways had an Octavia and has allways said she did'nt like my brakes. Then a fortnight ago she picked up her new one (L&K) and we went on holiday. This meant I drove it quite a lot (very nice)

But...

When I then got into mine to go to work on Monday I nearly !*$% myself at the 1st junction I came to and almost overshot. The difference between the 2 cars is incredible. After driving hers mine feels as though the pedal goes way to far and has no servo assistance. Has anyone else experienced this and is there anything that can be altered to rectify it.

My Furby is 2 1/2 years old with 40800 miles on the clock.

Another big problem what could I change it for that is as quick and will average the 62.5mpg that I get???

312 brake set up will sort you out

Get them bled in the first instance and get new fluid put in, then get the master cylinder looked at. Fast road pads will give you comparable braking power to 312s, but will be prone to fade, and will eat your discs in no time. 312s are the best option with going into silly money, but you're still looking at a fair wodge of cash...

Hi,

Don't know if anyone can help?

I don't think the brakes on my Furby are working properly. My wife has allways had an Octavia and has allways said she did'nt like my brakes. Then a fortnight ago she picked up her new one (L&K) and we went on holiday. This meant I drove it quite a lot (very nice)

But...

When I then got into mine to go to work on Monday I nearly !*$% myself at the 1st junction I came to and almost overshot. The difference between the 2 cars is incredible. After driving hers mine feels as though the pedal goes way to far and has no servo assistance. Has anyone else experienced this and is there anything that can be altered to rectify it.

My Furby is 2 1/2 years old with 40800 miles on the clock.

Another big problem what could I change it for that is as quick and will average the 62.5mpg that I get???

Hello handyandy,

If you find one please let me know, will watch for input here.

Ian. 15/09/2009. :thumbup:

As suggested changing your pads to fast road stuff, may make the difference. Most people on here recommend Mintex or Ferodo DS2500 pads. The problem is the DS2500 are £100+ per set, but are a lot cheaper than changing to 312mm discs, callipers & pads set up.

Another thing, How on earth do you average 62mpg in your vRS, you must drive like a granny! :rolleyes:

Edit: I've just seen the mpg thread and other people get 60+mpg on motorways. I only get 45-50mpg out of mine. :rotz:

Edited by Jim H

312's wont help a huge amount either.

They are mainly a way of maintaining braking power after continuous application. The 'feel' you get through them is far superior too... No way 312's will out brake 288's in any easily noticeable way as the ABS will do all it can to stop anyway.

Little test - on grass (or on tarmac faster) and hit anchors. do you get grating from ABS kicking in?? if not the brakes are not working peoperly.

Your problem sounds more like pad wera OR they need bleeding... get them looked at as a matter of urgency, keep the OEM set up, unless you drive in a way that 312's will be useful. and save money!

and has no servo assistance.

you would know about it if you had no servo assistance , the pedal would be just like pressing a brick

you said you went away on holiday , so your car was left for a while , i suspect the brakes had some surface corrosion on them from the rain, this takes a couple of braking moments to remove , plus you had got used to driving another car and that vehicles braking characteristics

My brakes can be awful when they have been sat for a while or if they get wet, once they have been used a few times though they are fine

I've found more initial spongyness in the Fabia brakes compared to the Octy and I have 312's on both. I think it's down to how the servo works on the Fabia with it running off a pump rather than engine vacuum as it does on the Octavia. I know exactly what you mean about the feeling when you're pulling up to a junction after driving an Octavia for a bit and applying the same amount of pedal movement and nothing happens but once you get used to the difference you should be able to dial it out. 312's are definitely a big improvement and I still find myself braking to early and running the risk of pulling up short of the roundabout so they do get rid of the "am I going to stop in time" concern but I don't think that it cures that dead feeling around the initial pedal movement.

With the 312 set up on my fabia, after driving any other car (modern or older), I almost put myself through the windscreen when I first brake again in the fabia. I guess I have got high-performance pads and spent over £300 on my brake set up though :D

i got 312s, but they were used, and have green stuff pads and i suspect warpped discs so not that great at the moment lol

I have a Fabia Vrs and my wifey has an Octavia Vrs diesel company car.

You will notice a huge difference between the 2 cars as the Octavia seems to have either :-

• Very high friction pads.

• An overly large servo assistance.

The Octy needs very little brake pedal pressure to work. In my opinion it is really over-servoed and it is quite easy to get the ABS working when you have to do an emergency stop.

I used to work for a brake manufacturer and did lots of testing on cars and the Octy certainly has brakes at the 'twitchy' end of the scale with regards pedal feel.

It almost brings back memories of the older Citroens whose brakes worked off the suspension system pressure. The brake pedal was basically a valve that was either on or off. If you coughed in the direction of the brake pedal the wheels would almost lock.

I think it's more down to a lack of feel rather than a lack of absolute stopping power. There is a tremendous difference between the brakes in SWMBOs 1.2 Classic and my vRS. However, the only times I've felt that I wasn't going to stop was when I've got back into my car after driving hers. It's really just a matter of pressing the pedal harder.

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