Its prob coz scoobies are easy picking for front drivers!

There poor aeros and tranny losses mean on tarmac they aint that fast.

On the other hand the Octy is very effeciant. Infact its about 20-30bhp more effective than my ST, and thats another front driver.

J

On the other hand the Octy is very effeciant. Infact its about 20-30bhp more effective than my ST, and thats another front driver.

J

How do you mean? Is it more efficient than any other fwd car?

Its prob coz scoobies are easy picking for front drivers!

There poor aeros and tranny losses mean on tarmac they aint that fast.

On the other hand the Octy is very effeciant. Infact its about 20-30bhp more effective than my ST, and thats another front driver.

J

You kind of lost me with that as well.

Weight and aerodynamics primaraly. It takes a noticable amount more horses to push my ST round than it does the Octy.

Its not something i really thought about till i compared the two.

J

i too was at the hull cruise on saturday... had a cracking 300 mile round trip!! i was in a Black Magic Mk1 VRS

Oh dear .......................:rotz::rotz::rotz::rotz:

It's also possible that the 'WRX' was not in fact a 'WRX' but a tarted up.

...especially possible when driving away from a 'cruise'.

It could have been a WRX, they are not particularly special. The 4WD also saps quite a bit of the power so it's quite possible it was this model.

The STI is the one with the grunt. I used to have one years ago, before they turned ugly

A well driven WRX would have the edge in a straight line when the weather is crap or the road is poor. In the corners the WRX would destroy the vRS. The vRS is a good car, it's well specced and powered for the money but it has a dog of a chassis. I mean, it's a mk4 Golf, it understeers and can't put it's power down when the road is rough or wet or any time it's less than a smooth bit of tarmac. The WRX has transmission losses greater than that of the vRS and more turbo lag so if a driver isn't fully utilising the performance of the WRX or the road is smooth then the benefits of the 4WD cannot overcome the drag losses. But at the end of the day does it really matter? I buy a car because I like it, not because I want to show off to other ***** in the 'I'm faster than you are' stakes. If it really comes down to it, the skill is outdriving someone on a twisty, difficult and technical back road, not in a straight line.