The real reason for ordering the 170 wasn't for the outright performance I'm in the happy place where that is a fringe benefit....the real clincher for me is towing capacity

Could somebody educate me please.....why is there a 200kg unbraked weight differential between the 140 and the 170?

CR140 = 1600kg braked towing capacity

CR170 = 1800kg braked towing capacity

I cant find any guidance that formulates towing capacity on bhp so what is different on the 170 as far as the chassis/curb weight etc in comparison with the 140?

Looks as though they have compared towing weight with engine power and NOT the whole vehicle.

In my view the towing capacity has less to do with engine power than with gearing. If the gear ratios are right then you could tow a lorry with a lawnmower engine.

I have towed various boats for 40+ years. My last boat was a trailer/sailer weighing in at 1300 kg. In this case the X-Trail was perfect because Nissan had chosen a good range of gear ratios. The X-Trail diesel had 103 bhp and a correspondingly lower torque to the 140 Yeti engine but the gearbox was well spaced and had a low 1st gear. (a little above a LR in Low Ratio) This gear never failed to recover boat and trailer up any launch slip I used and would cope with a recovery over a stony beach. (Those who know Criccieth's lifeboat beach will know what I mean!) The top speed was correspondingly lower at 108 mph and the acceleration figures are quite a bit slower.

If the Yeti gear ratios are picked to match the engine, then a 110 or a 140 engine will be more than adequate. Having said that, diesel is a must for towing - torque rules OK!

We had a similar issue in Norway with strange towing weights on the first Yeti's that were delivered. On cars produced after production week 45, the towing capacity for the different engines are:

1,2 TSI: 1200kg

2,0 TDI 110 2 wheel drive: 1500 kg

1,8 TSI 4x4: 1800 kg

2,0 TDI 110 4x4: 1800 kg

2,0 TDI 140 4x4: 2000 kg

2,0 TDI 170 4x4: 2000 kg

There were no changes made on the cars after wk 45, just new numbers for the car to be type approved with. It would be strange if the numbers were different on cars meant for the UK.

Our kg is heavier than your kg!!!!!

Whoever writes the brochures for Skoda seems to be very mixed up. How, for example, can they put an engine into production and not know the consumption or emissions? There must be test beds that can easily simulate urban and extra urban consumption without the engine being put in a car.

Edited 28 October, 200916 yr by Terfyn

We had a similar issue in Norway with strange towing weights on the first Yeti's that were delivered. On cars produced after production week 45, the towing capacity for the different engines are:

1,2 TSI: 1200kg

2,0 TDI 110 2 wheel drive: 1500 kg

1,8 TSI 4x4: 1800 kg

2,0 TDI 110 4x4: 1800 kg

2,0 TDI 140 4x4: 2000 kg

2,0 TDI 170 4x4: 2000 kg

There were no changes made on the cars after wk 45, just new numbers for the car to be type approved with. It would be strange if the numbers were different on cars meant for the UK.

It looks like the specs rate towing a certain performance up a 12% slpe, so the bigger engines can tow more.

ok so to wrap this one up....it would appear that

1. Chassis/braking efficiency has nothing to do with Skoda UK formulating the braked towing capacity, it's all on power.
   
2. Just to contradict point 1, the 1.8 TSI (160bhp) is only rated to haul a 1600kg braked trailer/caravan in uk:orb_duh:
   
3. Snow-monster/Yeti's (delete as appropriate) on mainland europe have an extra 200kg capacity stamped to the book compared to similar model specs destined for UK. Eg. UKCR170 1800kg, EuropeCR170 2000kg.
   
4. Skoda seem to be trying (unsuccessfully!?) to use the Force when gaining type/spec approval as they appear to be different for each model/each country
   

hey thanks for your thoughts folks....i genuinely thought i was asking a question with a relatively simple (and engineered!) answer to it.....DOH!

The 170 CR will be fine for my next caravan which weighs in at 1390Kg all up ... but why have Skoda limited the Yeti to 75Kg noseweight? The Tiguan is 100Kg.

I see the 140 CR Yeti didn't exactly set the heather on fire in the Caravan Club Towcar of the Year. One of the magazines (Practical Caravan???) is testing a Yeti next month, will make interesting reading.

I see the 140 CR Yeti didn't exactly set the heather on fire in the Caravan Club Towcar of the Year.

Not in to towing myself but curious to see what they had to say, so see link although it's a rather short article.

?koda |Practical advice |The Caravan Club

As predicted there is a test of the Yeti 140 CR in the new edition of Practical Caravan (Dec 09).

The Skoda won a head to head test with the new Peugeot 3008.

Towing ability they rate the Yeti at 8 out of 10, Solo driving 8 out of 10. Space and practicality 7 out of 10. Buying and owning 8 out of 10. Overall verdict 8 out of 10.

They praised its stability and engine flexibility.

They do conclude that the 3008 is the better, more practical solo car but for towing the Yeti streaks ahead.

NB I subscribe to this magazine so get it before it hits the shops, should be in the shops in a few days.

It looks like the specs rate towing a certain performance up a 12% slpe, so the bigger engines can tow more

I was thinking thia as well. However just picked up a brochure from the dealeras and that list 1800Kg for the 170, 1600Kg for the 140 and 1800kg for the 110 :eek: How does that work? or is it just a typo.

V5C arrived yesterday and the towing limits given are as follows:

braked 1600kg

unbraked 650kg

This applies to a TDI CR 140 with the CBDB engine (variant: ACCBDBX1).

The new on-line owners manual which reflects the introduction of the TDI CR 140 CFHC engine (thanks JonA) appears to have lifted these figures to:

braked 2000kg

unbraked 700kg

as far as I can tell these have always been the European specs though for some unfathomable reason the UK spec is significantly lower.

folk may also notice that there is an auxiliary heater option available which much to my chargrin is not available to uk customers!

An auxiliary heater would be a very pleasant and warming accessory to have.

One does wonder about the accuracy of the brochures, perhaps some things became mixed up during the translation.