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1.2 DSG - fuel consumption / paddle shift

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About to place my order ... one nagging doubt is the fuel consumption figures quoted in the brochure.

Does anyone know if the fuel consumption figures quoted for the 1.2 dsg are correct or has Skoda UK got it wrong?

Do the mpg / km/l match figures quoted in other European markets?

Anyone know if paddles are available for the Yeti in other markets?

Skoda manage to reproduce a lot of inaccurate information concerning their cars. It is amazing that they have not been prosecuted over it. Mostly I guess it is down to translation problems but even so it is poor. The topic of fuel consumption has been razed quite a bit out of surprise at the official figures.

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I'm now convinced that Skoda UK have got the urban cycle fuel consumtion numbers wrong for the Yeti 1.2 DSG.

Discussed in a lot more detail at http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/149152-automatic-gearbox-option/page__p__1862686entry1862686

Thanks Tarbat... theres a quote in the attached brochure see P16 which suggests the DSG will be better than the manual. I'm placing my order tomorrow hoping that this is indeed true. Interestingly there are no consumption figures except for Combined and even these don't agree with UK brochure. Are the UK models setup differently? CO2 is different.

http://new.skoda-auto.com/SiteCollectionDocuments/Catalogue/Yeti/Yeti_Catalogue_ENG.pdf

Regard 1.2TSI DSG fuel figures, the Skoda Germany site information is now available and differs from the UK. They quote in litres obviously the following:

City = 8.0

Extra urban = 5.8

Combined = 6.6

For the manual they have:

City = 7.9

Extra urban = 5.9

Combined = 6.6

They also quote both as having the same CO2 at 154 g/km

The German figures for the manual 6 speed match those given in the owners manual for Unloaden weight with special equipment more than 1505 kg.

Whereas the UK sales brochure figures for the manual 6 speed match the owners manual for Unloaden weight with special equipment up to1505 kg.

Read into this what you will but so far the German info has been more accurate than SUK.

Regards,

TP

Regard 1.2TSI DSG fuel figures, the Skoda Germany site information is now available and differs from the UK. They quote in litres obviously the following:

City = 8.0

Extra urban = 5.8

Combined = 6.6

For the manual they have:

City = 7.9

Extra urban = 5.9

Combined = 6.6

They also quote both as having the same CO2 at 154 g/km

The German figures for the manual 6 speed match those given in the owners manual for Unloaden weight with special equipment more than 1505 kg.

Whereas the UK sales brochure figures for the manual 6 speed match the owners manual for Unloaden weight with special equipment up to1505 kg.

Read into this what you will but so far the German info has been more accurate than SUK.

Regards,

TP

I noticed this too TP. The UK do seem to use the lower co2 and higher mpg figures for the 1.2 manual. In fairness though, the Yeti 1.2 in UK spec is substantially lower than 1505kg. It is the diesels with 4x4 that are the real heavyweights. Off the top of my head the 1.2 is approx 1350kg although having said that a top spec Elegance will be heavier than an E or S model.

I would trust the German figures every time. They are sticklers for accuracy. They would not tolerate the inaccurate brochures and web site.

I noticed this too TP. The UK do seem to use the lower co2 and higher mpg figures for the 1.2 manual. In fairness though, the Yeti 1.2 in UK spec is substantially lower than 1505kg. It is the diesels with 4x4 that are the real heavyweights. Off the top of my head the 1.2 is approx 1350kg although having said that a top spec Elegance will be heavier than an E or S model.

confused.com buy your thoughts Shrub.

SUK use the lowest figures for both CO2 and consumption for the manual stated in the owners handbook 11.09

For the manual; Unloaden weight with special equipment up to 1505 kg:

City = 7.6

Extra urban = 5.9

Combined = 6.4

CO2 at 149 g/km

Germans state the higher figure given for over 1505 kg in both cases.

As to whether their using the higher or lower for the DSG it does not state.

The Germans also give the DSG a kerb weight with a 75Kg driver as 1385Kg depending on equipment, compared to the SUK who state 1375Kg.

Link to German site My link

Regards,

TP

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confused.com buy your thoughts Shrub.

SUK use the lowest figures for both CO2 and consumption for the manual stated in the owners handbook 11.09

For the manual; Unloaden weight with special equipment up to 1505 kg:

City = 7.6

Extra urban = 5.9

Combined = 6.4

CO2 at 149 g/km

Germans state the higher figure given for over 1505 kg in both cases.

As to whether their using the higher or lower for the DSG it does not state.

The Germans also give the DSG a kerb weight with a 75Kg driver as 1385Kg depending on equipment, compared to the SUK who state 1375Kg.

Link to German site My link

Regards,

TP

Thanks TP :thumbup: will be ordering mine tomorrow.

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I am also trying to decide about buying 1.2TSI DSG. I emailed Skoda UK yesterday and got a call back 5 minutes ago. The guy had been advised by his technical people that the MPG of the DSG is correct. First reason given is that trim level of UK cars is higher (I mentioned the European data!). When I pointed out that you would then expect a big difference between E and Elegance trim levels, and they never quote different MPG data for the different specs, he went back to his "technical chap" and offered that the 7-speed DSG is worse in Urban conditions. It's certainly the Urban figure that's a problem, but I am still puzzled.

I've checked the references above to the German data, and found the Yeti catalogue at new.skoda-auto.com - despite comments to the contrary above, the latter has all the MPG data -

1.2TSI

Urban 7.6 (7.8)/7.9** (8.0**)

Extra-Urban 5.9 (5.7)/5.9** (5.8**)

Combined 6.4 (6.4)/6.6** (6.6**)

CO2 149 (149)/154** (154**)

The (data) is for the DSG. The note against ** says - The extra equipment weight restriction of 5 kg for cars with manual transmission and 35 kg for cars with automatic transmission results in the consumption and CO2 emission value reduction.

The ** data are the same as on the German website. and equate to 35.8/47.9/42.8 MPG for manual and 35.3/48.7/42.8 MPG for DSG.

Summing up, DSG Urban is 0.5MPG lower, Extra-Urban is 0.8MPG higher and Combined is identical to Manual, this also being true for the unstarred data!

Does anyone know how the UK brochure figures are produced?

They appear on the official VCA website, unfortunately only for the Manual 1.2TSI which is the same as the UK brochure. The VCA website says "The testing is carried out either by independent test organisations, or by the manufacturers or importers themselves at their own test facilities." Not much help there then - but one wonders why the DSG data is missing (I've emailed them to ask and await their answer)!

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They appear on the official VCA website, unfortunately only for the Manual 1.2TSI which is the same as the UK brochure.

Or not. Selecting the non-Greenline Yeti, gives a CO2 of 154, whereas Skoda UK quote 149.

http://www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk/search/vehicleDetails.asp?id=23873

What is "GREENLINE"? And will the UK be getting a GREENLINE version of the DSG? Hopefully I'll find out within the next couple of weeks when our DSG arrives.

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I would trust the German figures every time. They are sticklers for accuracy. They would not tolerate the inaccurate brochures and web site.

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Nazicat does not tolerate such inaccuracies in fuel economy figures!

it's funny now ppl are flocking to this engine.

when the Yeti first came out with this engine everybody could not get their head round the idea of 'cubic capacity' - i mean a 1.2 ? no way it could be powerful enough, even it was what about when loaded with people and passengers!!!

thank god OctaviaT81 posted this last week.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/155853-12tsi-vs-16mpi/

however in the same report that Autocar mentioned in passing it might struggle on motorway, it said it performed better in DSG enconomy and powerwise than manual!!! let's hope it wasn't wrong on both counts!! LOL. :rofl:

Babs did you cat nap my putty and dress him up???GGRRR

He's changed allegiance- he's gone off his "whiskas" :giggle:

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1.2TSI Octavia is on it's way, presumably with DSG option, which might be interesting to compare with YETI MPG's - however, I can't find "official MPG's" for Octavia yet.

The 1.4TSI Octavia is in the UK brochure with identical Combined MPG for Manual and DSG, which is interesting w.r.t. the Yeti debate.

Also interesting is that the Octavia Catalogue on new.skoda-auto.com has identical figures for all 3 MPG's for Manual and DSG to those in the UK Brochure - seems to contradict my Skoda UK contact, who discounted "European data"!!

It's interesting looking at the Octavia 1.4TSI DSG numbers. CO2 = 147 for the DSG, and 148 for the manual. But for the Yeti, the CO2 for the DSG version is higher by 16.

Similarly, for the urban cycle. On the Octavia, the DSG is 35.3mpg, and the manual is 32.1mpg. In fact, for the Octavia, the DSG gets better fuel consumption across the board, and a lower CO2 rating. So why is the Yeti DSG so BAD when it comes to fuel consumption and CO2 rating. I'd assumed the numbers were just wrong, but if Skoda UK have now confirmed these numbers, it's a real mystery to me.

I've checked the references above to the German data, and found the Yeti catalogue at new.skoda-auto.com - despite comments to the contrary above, the latter has all the MPG data -

1.2TSI

Urban 7.6 (7.8)/7.9** (8.0**)

Extra-Urban 5.9 (5.7)/5.9** (5.8**)

Combined 6.4 (6.4)/6.6** (6.6**)

CO2 149 (149)/154** (154**)

Okay, I'm finally deciding that, for a Yeti 1.2TSI DSG Elegance, the worst case scenario means fuel consumtion figures of:

Urban 35.3 mpg

Extra-Urban 48.7 mpg

Combined 42.8 mpg

CO2 154

That's based on the heaviest weight used in the global Skoda site.

Hello everybody ,

The figures for the 1.2 tsi dsg are the same in France than in UK : 9.6 l for urban cycle and 165 mg/co2 . And for us it changes taxes : From 0 euro to 750 euros !

No explanation from Skoda France except that they offer for around 600 euros for the DSG version to compensate a bit !

The french market is not very interested in the petrol version because of the huge difference between diesel and petrol prices ...

Skoda should ask VW how to deal with urban cycle test ! See Touran 1.4 tsi 140 dsg ...

Shift Paddles are not available, at least for now. Certainly not in the Greek or any market.

I checked ETKA and I can confirm they are not there!

I could find illuminated visors and electrically foldable mirrors but no paddles!

Living with the DSG, I can tell you that you will not miss the paddles.

I bet they would probably be annoying if anything.

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