Hi as a newbie here looking to buy either a Superb CR 170 or a Yeti as a towcar, I wonder if any members could assist me with letting me know what the MIRO (mass in running order) quoted on their V5 says as I am trying to work out an accurate weight of the Yeti.

Many thanks.

Why not try a public weighbridge? I found some addresses on the Internet. Heavy haulage companies have them to cost bulk loads and I have seen them at sand pits or quarries. Used one when I bought 5 ton of pebble for my drive and paths.

Edited 2 February, 201016 yr by Terfyn

Thanks for the idea, but I am trying to work out the true weight before I purchase as some manufacturers do not include the weight of the driver in their promotional material.

Thanks for the idea, but I am trying to work out the true weight before I purchase as some manufacturers do not include the weight of the driver in their promotional material.

Hi and welcome,

the figures from the owners manual correspond to those on the V5C. Note early production Yeti's such as mine have a lower towing limit to those manufactured from WK45 in November 09.

My link

My link

Regards,

TP

Thanks for that, do we assume that the ready for work figure in the handbook is without a driver?

75KG allowance for driver may already be included.

Thanks for that, do we assume that the ready for work figure in the handbook is without a driver?

Hi,

the original international catalogue published many months ago stated the kerb weight included a 75Kg driver; for the TDI 140 this was given as 1545Kg My link .

The owners handbook (11.09) makes no mention of a driver and also uses slightly different terminology; Unloaden weight ready for work. For the 140 again this is given as 1530Kg.

Regards,

TP

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Edited 5 February, 201016 yr by The Plumber

Hi,

the original international catalogue published many months ago stated the kerb weight included a 75Kg driver; for the TDI 140 this was given as 1545Kg My link .

The owners handbook (11.09) makes no mention of a driver and also uses slightly different terminology; Unloaden weight ready for work. For the 140 again this is given as 1530Kg.

Regards,

TP

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Drat, that might make the car too light to safely tow my 1482kg caravan.

Drat, that might make the car too light to safely tow my 1482kg caravan.

Maximum permitted towing weight in the EU is 2000 kg for the 140 and 170. I believe the UK is less at 1800 kg, but do not understand why?

In the EU, maximum Yeti weight is around 2000 kg, which with a 2000 kg trailer brings it into "C" class licence requirements - standard "B" car licence is for a maximum total vehicle train weight of 3500 kg. Without a special towing drivers license, the trailer may only weigh 105% (when fuly loaded, actual weight on the road) of the towing vehicle rated weight when empty. If that includes the driver or not, I am not sure.

Drat, that might make the car too light to safely tow my 1482kg caravan.

I've been looking at the same issue (Yeti towing a caravan). Although the towing wieght quoted by Skoda may be higher, in the UK you can only legally tow a caravan equal or lighter than the towing vehicle.

The Caravan Clubs recommendation is that the caravan should not exceed 85% of the towing vehicles wieght, but in chatting to the retailers (maybe not independent, but seemed very knowledgable) the comment was that with modern caravans this is not such an issue, as modern construction and in some cases electronics, make towing more straightforward (certainly the European limits of 2000kg for a Yeti would seem to support this).

I thought that I read somewhere on these pages, that the most recent Yeti had the towing limits amended in GB to match the rest of the EU. That the 140 and 170 had now a limit of 2000kg.

I have always simply heeded the manufacturers advice re towing capacity.

If it says 2000kg 2000kg it is............this assuming one is either a pre 1997 car licence holder or has done the trailer test post 1997

I see no reason to faff around with this 85% ruling( though perhaps the effects of wind on a caravan are in part responsible for this conservative approach)

cheers

M

While it will be legal for me to tow my caravan with a Yeti (only because I passed my test pre 1997), the (relative) light weight and short wheelbase are making me think that a Superb (or Insignia) may be a better towcar, if duller. As a caravan is more susceptable to cross winds than a flat trailer, and my caravan is over 24' long including the draw bar, I will. Have to consider my way forward. Thanks for all your assistance.

Ps I am currently washing my mouth out with soap

While it will be legal for me to tow my caravan with a Yeti (only because I passed my test pre 1997), the (relative) light weight and short wheelbase are making me think that a Superb (or Insignia) may be a better towcar, if duller. As a caravan is more susceptable to cross winds than a flat trailer, and my caravan is over 24' long including the draw bar, I will. Have to consider my way forward. Thanks for all your assistance.

Ps I am currently washing my mouth out with soap

The Superb is about 100 kg heavier than the Yeti and has about 200 mm longer wheel base. Thes are OK data for improved trailer handling, but it is only rated 1800 kg with brakes - 200 kg less than the Yeti.

The Yeti also has 400 mm smaller turning circle than the Superb.

On the highway, the Superb will probably feel more comfortable. On the byways and getting your house into a narrow parking slot, the Yeti is probably easier. It also is not likely to get stuck on the wet grass in the campground.

Yer pays yer money and takes yer pick.

Wheelbase corrected

Edited 5 February, 201016 yr by Agerbundsen

Both the Skodas I am comparing are used an dI have got the details from the garage on the relative weights:

Yeti 2.0 140 Elegance (early 59 plate): MIS 1545kg, GVW 2090kg, max tow 1600kg.

Superb 2.0 170 CR DSG SE (early 58 plate): MIS 1590kg, GVW 2135kg, max tow 1800kg.

i am also looking at a Octavia Scout, the garage says the details on the V5 are blank :(

Both the Skodas I am comparing are used an dI have got the details from the garage on the relative weights:

Yeti 2.0 140 Elegance (early 59 plate): MIS 1545kg, GVW 2090kg, max tow 1600kg.

Superb 2.0 170 CR DSG SE (early 58 plate): MIS 1590kg, GVW 2135kg, max tow 1800kg.

i am also looking at a Octavia Scout, the garage says the details on the V5 are blank :(

skodal...be warned those details are wrong.... and SUK are supplying a bag of cach data to their dealers!

when you look at the VIN Plates of UK Yeti's

Snow Monster CR140 = 1800kg Max tow

Snow Monster CR170 = 2000kg Max tow

These were the figures from the actual V5s for the vehicles in question. Pre Nov 09 Yetis are lower rated.......

There is the world of difference in safety terms between towing a 2000kg TRAILER/LOW LOADER and a 2000KG CARAVAN

This is much greater important from a caravanners point of view than whether the trailer limit is 1800 or 2000KG

The Yeti also has a short rear overhang comparatively which should allow tighter control of the trailer unit. Also because of the smaller overhang their will be less pitching of the car and trailer/caravan when travelling over bumpy roads. I think that the Yeti should do at least as well most probably better than he superb in my view.

The Yeti also has a short rear overhang comparatively which should allow tighter control of the trailer unit. Also because of the smaller overhang their will be less pitching of the car and trailer/caravan when travelling over bumpy roads. I think that the Yeti should do at least as well most probably better than he superb in my view.

I agree entirely Anthony.

Am greatly looking forward to towing our 1150kg van. Will be a breeze. Can't however take the excitement of towing a van 30 % heavier than Yeti.

The Yeti also has a short rear overhang comparatively which should allow tighter control of the trailer unit. Also because of the smaller overhang their will be less pitching of the car and trailer/caravan when travelling over bumpy roads. I think that the Yeti should do at least as well most probably better than he superb in my view.

granted it has a short rear overhang, but it also has a short wheelbase which does not help.

Skoodal,

The Yeti has a very similar wheelbase to the Freelander 1, and probably the same rear overhang, so from experience there should be little difference between the 2, and I can confirm that the Freelander is very stable and not at all "choppy" with a heavy load on the hook.. I know I have regularly towed with mine, including for a short distance something well over the 2000kg limit that LR specify.

Since the new Yeti's are confirmed as having a towing limit of 2000kg I don't suppose it would be difficult to get confirmation from SUK that the original VIN plate has been superceeded. Luckily my 'van has a max of 1050kg so I am not worried, but it is useful to know it will cope with more.

Well, one could always try something a bit like the Landrover Defender, weighing in something like 2 Tonnes +,. depending on version or even the Discovery or Rangerover. They have a towing weight of 3.5 tonnes, 3500kg. Do they do caravans weighing in at 3500kg in GB?

Well you only have a short time to wait for your 140 CR, then you can take your van out on a trip for a long week end. I am not too sure though if it is wise to tow while running in at least at the start of the process. It may be worth while finding out or having a chin wag about it on here. Over loading at low revolutions can be far more damaging than revving away at maximum.