As promised. On the receipt it says Oscarli Remap for anyone who's curious (no idea myself).

Here's my curve. As you can see, very peaky at the top end, means it really starts to pull harder past 3000rpm.

Kev

Hi Kev,

Is it possible to limit torque below 3Krpm so that the torque peaks at about 250lbsft ish at 3Krpm? I too prefer to rev it however other people when they drive my car use the low down torque :(

Of course, anything's possible

(Within reason)

Kev

Of course, anything's possible

(Within reason)

Kev

Cool. Will keep this in mind if I decide I want it mapped.

Not a bad result mate, did they do a before rolling road? Would have shown the increase!

The blue lines was the before run lol so according to that not that it's not much of an increase, but it sure does feel like a large boost in power! It's nice and nippy again (for a while... ha) :-)

I was sat behind a SL55 which just rocketed off as soon as the dual carriage way hit. Absolutely no hope of keeping up with that haha. Very impressive watching that fly away!

Ah ok - so, 140 bhp and 230 lb/ft standard and 161 bhp and 268 lb/ft remapped.

Not a bad increase, 20 bhp and 30 lb/ft is still good and the delivery of power looks good!

thats not bad!

Cost much?

I was hoping for a little bit more (+10/+10 would have been about ideal!), but oh well :-)

It was too much - £387 I think it was!

edit - I may or may not pester Dr Atthowe to see if he'll take it back quickly when / if he has a spare half hour or so and see if he can tweak it slightly. It had to go in for an MOT straight after I picked it up, so it couldn't have been tweaked whilst I was there :-(

Edited 12 May, 201016 yr by mark.r.cullen

I think I found out tonight that my Furby has been mapped...

I dunno who by, or upped by how much?

But tonight I went out in a stage 1 mapped fabia vrs with foey a member on here.

First we went out in his. He knows it's mapped but not sure what his figures are..

Then we went out for a blat in mine and there's little or no difference between them...

How could I find out who did my map? Previous owner said as far as he knew... It wasn't mapped,

And how much would a rolling road session set me back to find out my figures...

I was hoping for a little bit more (+10/+10 would have been about ideal!), but oh well :-)

It was too much - £387 I think it was!

edit - I may or may not pester Dr Atthowe to see if he'll take it back quickly when / if he has a spare half hour or so and see if he can tweak it slightly. It had to go in for an MOT straight after I picked it up, so it couldn't have been tweaked whilst I was there :-(

Following up from this. I didn't get much of a drive to play with yesterday. I did e-mail Atthowe to see if he could tweak it a tad more at the expense of a little smoothness. The drive in to work this morning was good. It's incredibly smooth & seems to pull to the red line in at least 2nd, 3rd and 4th :-) It's hard to believe a 20bhp and 30lb/ft increase has made such a difference. It seems like more than that.

Could be worth it, maybe a few more torques and keep the bhp the same

Saves the turbi and clutch lol

A rolling road is roughly £30 ish

A rolling road is roughly £30 ish

Thanks Ad Lav

You're fairly local to me... Can you recommend anywhere nearby ish....

Would they be able to tell me who has mapped it previously? I'm very interested to know that.

I thought the mappers leave a kind of digital "label" on the ecu to show who's done the work??

Mostly I'd like to know as somewhere must have a copy of the standard map when the work was originally done.

Just in case I ever wanted to "turn it back down..."

You can go to AMD in Essex

I went to JKM in Portsmouth for a rolling road day, well worth it.

I'm not sure if they can tell who mapped it but they should be able to tell if it has been mapped. Boost levels etc will be up.

Must meetup at AMD some point!

Guys, let me ask you some questions.

Why do you spend such a lots of money to get more performance from FWD car?

How did you manage to transfer such a torque to the surface with such a light weight FWD car (Fabia has no LSD)?

How did you manage to upgrade drive train (shafts, differential, gearbox, engine internals rebuild)?

How did you match gear ratio to ECU remap? (I assume you understand relationship between torque curve and gears ratio and final gear ratio)

Did you ever try 4WD high performance car?

I bet most cheap 4WD cars with less torque would beat any of your expensive toys. no flame just curious questions.

Edited 24 May, 201016 yr by sniper29a

Guys, let me ask you some questions.

Why do you spend such a lots of money to get more performance from FWD car?

Did you ever try 4WD high performance car?

I bet most cheap 4WD cars with less torque would beat any of your expensive toys. no flame just curious questions.

I can answer these for you, starting from the bottom may be better..

Have you seen any 4WD which cost less, more reliable for daily drives, nippier, cheap to run and more practical than the Fabia? (50mpg, £120 tax, group 9 insurance)

No, not driven 4WD, does lift off oversteer count tho?

Imo, spending 1/7th (or less) of what the car's worth on performance for 30% gain isn't a big investment. Another 1/7th on handling will make it a very enjoyable car (not specifically for 'beating other toys').

Have you driven a vRS or similar?

Edited 25 May, 201016 yr by JLneonhug

I can answer these for you, starting from the bottom may be better..

Have you seen any 4WD which cost less, more reliable for daily drives, nippier, cheap to run and more practical than the Fabia? (50mpg, £120 tax, group 9 insurance)

No, not driven 4WD, does lift off oversteer count tho?

Imo, spending 1/7th (or less) of what the car's worth on performance for 30% gain isn't a big investment.

Have you driven a vRS or similar?

well, you didn't answer any of my questions ;-)

I am driving skoda for almost my life, not only back in my country where Skodas are made, but also in UK. I can tell you that simply mechanical AWD is more reliable than SKoda ;-) I used to have two Skoda 120L WRC (both were older than me in my sweet 25 ;-) ROFL, Felicia, Fabia

I wonder why you need high performance car for daily commuting? I have got standart Fabia 1.9TDi.

I also wonder how you guys get 50mpg. I cannot do it even with family car with aggresive sport driving style :-) Don't tell me you drive 30mph on 5th gear all the way to the work ;-)

never drove RS and never will. As great fan of Skoda Motorsport back in Czech Republic. Public version of famous rally cars are huge disappointment due lobby of VAG group. Skoda Octavia WRC, public version screw up. Fabia WRC/S2000 rules the SWRC, public version even worst screw up. Family car with RS batch. My standarts for performance car has been set very high after 2 years on Subaru Impreza ;-)

well your investment to 30% gain is just seeds for disaster later on. Consider this from mechanical engineering point of view. Gearbox, drivetrain shafts are designed for certain torque + lets say 50% deviance for critical failure of material. Guess what happen if you just remap ECU and get 40% more torque. Sure, first step will be uprated clutch. guess what happen to gear box and drivetrain ;-)

So you spend 6k £ for RS right, then 300£ for ECU remap. Cheap "overclock" of my car. Tuners dream. Guess what happen few months later, once everything starts to fall apart ;-) I am sure all companies told you so already. You just spent 6300£ for RS. Now, you get Subaru Impreza for 3000£. Sure, you pay little bit more for road tax and insurance. BUt that is premium for high performance. You get all in one package for 3000£ + unlimited potencial for upgrades if you wish so and in case you are not happy with standart symetric AWD, boxer engine, low centre of gravity. McPherson on all wheels, Cusco LSD on both axles, 280HP and 300Nm of torque all in standart factory tune. Cheap upgrade up to 350HP and almost 400Nm of torque until you have to replace engine internals + drivetrain to match upgrade. Lets say you get this baby for 5000£.

Don't tell me you bought sport car for commuting to work. What a waste. And don't tell me that Fabia RS has 50mpg on trackdays ;-) It would be 25mpg just like Impreza ROFL. Even worst. Some drift on the snow is 15mpg for sure ;-)

I have been laughing when I have seen struggling young racing drivers with Golfs fitted with HALDEX electronic differential. These two guys were really pis*ed up at Glenshee car park when I have been drifting around them and they were stuck in the not too deep snow ;-) Their girlfriends didn't smile either ;-)

Edited 25 May, 201016 yr by sniper29a

well, you didn't answer any of my questions ;-)

I wonder why you need high performance car for daily commuting? I have got standart Fabia 1.9TDi.

I also wonder how you guys get 50mpg. I cannot do it even with family car with aggresive sport driving style :-) Don't tell me you drive 30mph on 5th gear all the way to the work ;-)

never drove RS and never will. My standarts for performance car has been set very high after 2 years on Subaru Impreza ;-)

well your investment to 30% gain is just seeds for disaster later on. Consider this from mechanical engineering point of view. Gearbox, drivetrain shafts are designed for ceratin torque + lets say 50% deviance for critical failure of material. Guess what happen if you just remap ECU and get 40% more torque. Sure, first step will be uprated clutch. guess what happen to gear box and drivetrain ;-)

So you spend 6k £ for RS right, then 300£ for ECU remap. Cheap "overclock" of my car. Tuners dream. Guess what happen few months later, once everything starts to fall apart ;-) I am sure all companies told you so already. You just spent 6300£ for RS. Now, you get Subaru Impreza for 3000£. Sure, you pay little bit more for road tax and insurance. BUt that is premium for high performance. You get all in one package for 3000£ + unlimited potencial for upgrades if you wish so and you are not happy with standart symetric AWD, boxer engine, low centre of gravity. McPherson on all wheels, Cusco LSD on both axles, 280HP and 300Nm of torque all in standart factory tune. Cheap upgrade up to 350HP and almost 400Nm of torque until you have to replace engine internals + drivetrain to match upgrade. Lets say you get this baby for 5000£.

Don't tell me you bought sport car for commuting to work. What a waste. And don't tell me that Fabia RS has 50mpg on trackdays ;-) It would be 25mpg just like Impreza ROFL. Even worst. Some drift on the snow is 15mpg for sure ;-) Been laughing when I have seen struggling young racing drivers with Golfs fitted with HALDEX electronic differential. These two guys were really ****ed up at Glenshee car park when I have been drifting around them and they were stuck in the not too deep snow ;-) Their girlfriends didn't smile either ;-)

I never said the vRS was high powered, no-one on here has said that (bare the few who tune the fabias to make boeing 747's look slow). .

Many on here class it as a warm hatch and could be a hotter hatch than many of the public may think.

I dont need the premium for my insurance and I can drive to work with 50+mpg, yet im still having fun on public roads I don't see how this is such a bizarre concept.. If I spend 2-3hrs a day driving to/from work (1/5th of everyday) I expect to drive it either in style and/or with a bit of fun attached to it.

Edit: If you have a read on the forums many never had issues with drivetrains etc. clutch/flywheel - possible but meh, OEM replacement (or eqv.) will suffice.

Are you seriously trying to convince me that maintenance fee's are going to be higher on a remapped Fabia than an std Impreza? :wonder:

If I wanted the thrill of Track days I can take it on the tracks and still have fun. If I wanted a willy contest I'd get a proper weekend car/track weapon, I would throw money at it until mine was the biggest. Forget all this 'built not bought' carp.. rich = win. poor = lose.

Has that answered some of your questions?

Edited 25 May, 201016 yr by JLneonhug

I never said the vRS was high powered, no-one on here has said that (bare the few who tune the fabias to make boeing 747's look slow). .

Many on here class it as a warm hatch and could be a hotter hatch than many of the public may think.

I dont need the premium for my insurance and I can drive to work with 50+mpg, yet im still having fun on public roads I don't see how this is such a bizarre concept.. If I spend 2-3hrs a day driving to/from work (1/5th of everyday) I expect to drive it either in style and/or with a bit of fun attached to it.

If I wanted the thrill of Track days I can take it on the tracks and still have fun. If I wanted a willy contest I'd get a proper weekend car/track weapon, I would throw money at it until mine was the biggest. Forget all this 'built not bought' carp.. rich = win. poor = lose.

then I don't understand why you have so much mods on your car man ROFL Why the hell you need 312mm racing brakes for your driving style? It is quite in conflict with what you have just written. Questions were for guys with nice charts from DYNO. I can get 50+ mpg on highway if I drive at 1800rpm with 10% load on engine ;-) otherwise, if I enjoy full benefits of engine. I never get over 50mpg. That what is cars for right? having fun and don't bother about costs. otherwise, we would use public mass transport :-)

then I don't understand why you have so much mods on your car man ROFL Why the hell you need 312mm racing brakes for your driving style? It is quite in conflict with what you have just written. Questions were for guys with nice charts from DYNO. I can get 50+ mpg on highway if I drive at 1800rpm with 10% load on engine ;-) otherwise, if I enjoy full benefits of engine. I never get over 50mpg. That what is cars for right? having fun and don't bother about costs. otherwise, we would use public mass transport :-)

As you may have noticed, my mod's atm are handling, efficiency or aesthetics. Im finding the power quite nice as std atm, and I haven't remapped the car yet. The 312mm Im still debating about because I personally don't like this sponge effect I get with the original. 312mm is simply from a different model of car (OEM TT/Bora/Golf), not really ground breaking performance nor bank breaking .

Why mod's? Well.. individuality me thinks, and tinkering.

At 2.5k rpm on 6th gear I get 57-60mpg on the reading but I assume thats around 50mpg because the computer lies . any slower I get around 60-64mpg. in town it varies between 20-40mpg.................. I think mpg wise it really does depend on driver.. My play might be different from yours, you may like traffic light races with other people and I may like timing myself how long it takes to get from a-b (at the same time enjoy people who try to keep up after I've overtaken them ).

P.s. All at legal and safe speeds of course! Right time for sleep. Im sure many will help with your questions 2morro.

Edited 25 May, 201016 yr by JLneonhug

As you may have noticed, my mod's atm are handling, efficiency or aesthetics. Im finding the power quite nice as std atm, and I haven't remapped the car yet. The 312mm Im still debating about because I personally don't like this sponge effect I get with the original. 312mm is simply from a different model of car (OEM TT/Bora/Golf), not really ground breaking performance nor bank breaking .

Why mod's? Well.. individuality me thinks, and tinkering.

At 2-2.5k rpm on 6th gear I get 57-60mpg on the reading but I assume thats around 50mpg because the computer lies . any slower I get around 60-64mpg. in town it varies between 20-40mpg.................. I think mpg wise it really does depend on driver.. My play might be different from yours, you may like traffic light races with other people and I may like timing myself how long it takes to get from a-b (at the same time enjoy people who try to keep up after I've overtaken them ).

well, I assume all these OEM VAG 312mm brakes still have floating caliper. If you need real brakes, you need 4 pot fixed caliper like Brembo and so on, which will rip off your wheel from suspension during braking :-D

don't be fooled by on board computer ;-) it somehow calculates economy from e-gas and load fo engine. I take overall miles and amount of fuel topped up. do some math and I have got real fuel consumption ;-) Unfortunatelly, I have no 6th gear on my Fabia 2001, but don't really need it since I hate driving on highways. Long straight boring roads full of idiots who can drive on straight roads but struggle to control car once some turns pop up. It is not long time ago when I have been chasing some guy with brand new Subaru Impreza. He was really unhappy when I was "licking" his back in turns. But he showed me that he can press accelerator really hard on straights just to get caught up in turns again ;-)

I have been thinking about remap of ECU, but I will rather spend money on suspension.That really matters for me ;-)

Trust me, I don't like silly traffic light races and so on or as you say willy lenght races ;-) I prefer to keep car running as safe and as fast as possible on mountain roads during travelling to Fort William from Aberdeen. Which means get maximum from engine and suspension on tight sharp roads ;-) As great fan of rally and preparation for racing of hillclimbs and rally. I am always looking forward to learn how to keep car balanced and pushing it to the limits.

As you may have noticed, my mod's atm are handling, efficiency or aesthetics. Im finding the power quite nice as std atm, and I haven't remapped the car yet. The 312mm Im still debating about because I personally don't like this sponge effect I get with the original. 312mm is simply from a different model of car (OEM TT/Bora/Golf), not really ground breaking performance nor bank breaking .

Why mod's? Well.. individuality me thinks, and tinkering.

At 2-2.5k rpm on 6th gear I get 57-60mpg on the reading but I assume thats around 50mpg because the computer lies . any slower I get around 60-64mpg. in town it varies between 20-40mpg.................. I think mpg wise it really does depend on driver.. My play might be different from yours, you may like traffic light races with other people and I may like timing myself how long it takes to get from a-b (at the same time enjoy people who try to keep up after I've overtaken them ).

well, I assume all these OEM VAG 312mm brakes still have floating caliper. If you need real brakes, you need 4 pot fixed caliper like Brembo and so on, which will rip off your wheel from suspension during braking :-D

don't be fooled by on board computer ;-) it somehow calculates economy from e-gas and load fo engine. I take overall miles and amount of fuel topped up. do some math and I have got real fuel consumption ;-) Unfortunatelly, I have no 6th gear on my Fabia 2001, but don't really need it since I hate driving on highways. Long straight boring roads full of idiots who can drive on straight roads but struggle to control car once some turns pop up. It is not long time ago when I have been chasing some guy with brand new Subaru Impreza. He was really unhappy when I was "licking" his back in turns. But he showed me that he can press accelerator really hard on straights just to get caught up in turns again ;-)

I have been thinking about remap of ECU, but I will rather spend money on suspension.That really matters for me ;-)

Trust me, I don't like silly traffic light races and so on or as you say willy lenght races ;-) I prefer to keep car running as safe and as fast as possible on mountain roads during travelling to Fort William from Aberdeen. Which means get maximum from engine and suspension on tight sharp roads ;-) As great fan of rally and preparation for racing of hillclimbs and rally. I am always looking forward to learn how to keep car balanced and pushing it to the limits.

well i hate to admit but i really have a heavy right foot any chance i get to put my foot down i do, nothing better than the rasp of the cat back exaust howling up the steep a39 (tourque comes into play) windows down and im away! Sorry the point is i still get 35-40 mpg in town driving like that, i can easily get 50mpg if i wanted to. Even with a remap fabia vrs does not excell in traffic light races for me its all about when your in a 30 then it opens up to a 60-70, not much is going to keep up with you in that situation (specialy with a remap) I can understand if you dont want to mod your poor mans vrs, but dont come on here and rant about how moding your cars performance is bad and how we shouldnt be doing it, for me its a hobbie, and the forum is filled with people doing the same thing..

well, I assume all these OEM VAG 312mm brakes still have floating caliper. If you need real brakes, you need 4 pot fixed caliper like Brembo and so on, which will rip off your wheel from suspension during braking :-D

I have been thinking about remap of ECU, but I will rather spend money on suspension.That really matters for me ;-)

Couldn't agree more on the 'idiots think driving v hard in a straight line = pro' comments.

Brakes wise, lol im sure 4pots will be quite effective, but as you say previously, stuff like that isn't required on such a car unless its heavily modified or people who like to mould their faces into the windscreen :yes:.

As for suspension upgrades for the Fabia, have you looked at Rear ARB? Its a much more sound investment and gives good response in handling. Even when I had it on the 1.4 it felt a world of difference. Brands are Whiteline or Jabba arb's, highly recommended first easy mod by many (and myself).

Alternatively, uprated bushes seem to help with handling and it doesn't dent the wallet.

Edited 25 May, 201016 yr by JLneonhug

Hi

im relatively new on this forum but i have noticed that most threads seem to turn into pointless bickering. God knows why tbh

moving on the thread is about rolling road graphs of un mapped and mapped PD130 engines. i fail to see how a simple topic like that could go off course.

ive noticed that although this is a skoda forum, people get alot of flack about skodas being slow and not doing well in traffic light races etc.

surely you cant be driving them correctly? a remapped one with 170hp and 300 lbs ft should fly! all that power in a polo 9n chassis? come one.

i drive a barge of a golf GT TDI which is a larger car that tans alot on the roads.

makes for an interesting read i guess.