Hi folks,

Well I have been busy treating the new car to some winter protection this afternoon.

After advice on here, I have invested in some Carlack 68 Sealant protection.

Spent first couple of hours washing with lambs wool mitt and hand drying.

Then Carlack NSC. Left for 30 mins to bed in.

Then Carlack LL sealant added and everything buffed off after 2 minutes as per clearyourcar forum guidelines.

However having finished the car and it looking stunning. I have noticed now that the roof appears cloudy and hazy as if the polish has come back.

Just tried buffing it and the haze is not going away. Getting a bit worried.

Any ideas? rewash/polish?

I would suggest asking the same question on detailing world mate, or you could PM Baker 21, he is Briskoda's resident detailing expert, but in the interim I wouldn't be worried, at most you may need to run a polish over the roof then re-apply the wax finish.

HTH, Lee.

Cheers for the tip although I have just registered and I can't post. It won't let me.

Jesus my day is getting worse. :'(

It sounds like you had too much product or that it was not left long enough to cure.

Sounds like early evening damp/dew forming

Think your right guys.

Now that its dark I can see more haze on the panels.

It looked the dogs danglies in the sun earlier.

So, what now? :'(

What products had been used on the car previously?? If you didn't strip the car back then they might be reacting with the carlack and looking hazy.

If it isn't just a drop in temp as mentioned earlier I would be tempted to strip it back with a strong wash and clay and start again.

Nothing has been used on the car previously. It's only a week old. So i assume whatever the valeters use. Spent ages on it today. Do I really have to start again? :(

Followed the imstructions to the letter on this forum. The OP SWorrall originally created the thread. He may pop in on this one for some assistance.

Heres the thread: http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12589

Worried about leaving it now overnight and then buffing again in the morning.

hi ed.

had no problem when doing mine but I did clay the panels first to remove the wax the dealer had applied plus a few of them were quite rough to the touch from the factory. Havent had any issues with hazing but as above are you sure it isnt damp forming?

I wouldnt worry about leaving it overnight. Probably best to give it a quick wash in the morning to get any overnight contaminents off then take a look in the daylight. Also as above you can get problems when you apply too much but putting over another layer of sealant/detailing spray should loosen it so it can be removed with a microfibre. I used to get a similar problem on my blue one if i applied too much collinite.

What are you using to apply the carlack? I use a german applicator on mine as it spreads it out really thinly.

Im not realy an expert on these things hence the posts above on cleanyourcar. maybe baker21 will be able to help if he spots this thread.

Hi mate,

Thanks for the reply. I am thinking now that I should of done a couple of things.

Firstly I did'nt clay. Whether that has had an impact on the paint surface.

I did check it first to check for roughness. It felt glass like smooth. So I did'nt clay it.

Secondly I used an old meguiars applicator pad to apply the Carlack68 NSC.

Waited thirty minutes and then applied the sealant using an old microfibre cloth that was freshly washed.

The results today in the sunlight looked very impressive. Its only when the sun went in and there was moisture in the air that I noticed the haze.

Firstly on the roof. I tried to buff it there and then but the haze kept coming back. I then noticed the drivers side door panels were hazy.

I maybe used too much perhaps?!

Heres the results from today. Looks fine in these only at dusk does the haze show.

I would leave it until well after sun up tomorrow and see how it looks then, could just be damp hazing , probably have cleared tomorrow.

You say you waited 30 mins for the carlack and then applied the sealant.

I take it the carlak was buffed off before the sealant was put on. Sorry if you did, just thought I'd mention it.

if the hazing is only at dusk then perhaps this is normal, when the temp drops you do get moisture all over the car, especially and first of all the roof and then bonnet. Could it just be this?

From experience Carlack does have quite a lot of powder residue. Take some detailing spray and give the car a wipedown before the sealant. Although I don't think this is why its hazing.

The results today in the sunlight looked very impressive. Its only when the sun went in and there was moisture in the air that I noticed the haze.

Firstly on the roof. I tried to buff it there and then but the haze kept coming back. I then noticed the drivers side door panels were hazy.

From this further information I would be leaning towards moisture condensing on the panels and finely beading to give a hazy appearance. This is easily cured by getting the car dirty :p

If it was light diffraction caused by a previously applied product I would not expect you to have been able to buff it away however temporarily

I take it the carlak was buffed off before the sealant was put on

No I did'nt. See the link I posted above from the cleanyourcar.com forum.

Thats where I got the step by step guidelines to the carlack treatment application.

The Car-Lack 68 Nano Systematic Care is apllied first.

Wait 30 mins.

Then apply the sealant over the top over the NSC.

The two solutions work together forming a protective bond.

After 2 mins the whole haze should be wiped off to leave a shine.

Thats what I did.

Love the day time effect. Night time is swirl and powdertastic.

Something isn't right.

Problem with sealants is they takea while to cure (unless you use a flash over type like Optiseal) and they show up swirls and other imperfections. I would wipe over the car with a QD maybe Last Touch to remove powered, the weather this time over year makes it quite difficult for some products to cure. It could also be being white the paint work is cooler as well!

If your worried about swirls then a non oily glaze might help, or you might get on better with Optiseal which is simply a wipe on product no buffing.

Thanks for the PM and to keep this how a forum should be I will reply here so anyone else may read this response and find it helpful.................. :yes:

Sorry to hear about your problem and also sorry that I don't go into specific forums, just the 'Styling and Car Care' section and the 'Superb' section.........

I have one question first if possible:

1) Is the car brand new as in no one owned if before, delivered from the factory to the dealer and then to you?

What I would say is don't panic, anything you have applied will add protection to the car, whatver is on there can be removed I am sure with the right tool for the job and it's just a case of making sure the right solution is found..........

Yes the car is brand new. One week old. I am the new owner! :yes:

This is what I bought.

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/sealants/carlack-sealant-kit/prod_358.html

Edited 31 October, 201015 yr by EddGee

What did the car look like today? did the haze dissapear at any point?

What did the car look like today? did the haze dissapear at any point?

Looked shiny and treated in places but now I know the haze is there I could notice it more.

As the temperature drops I can see more haze on the bonnet/doors/roof/wings..its everywhere.Doh!!

Does sound more like moisture and a healthy dose of paranoia tbh

If you let the garage wash the car before you picked it up the odds are they will have imparted some swirls into the paintwork even if they weren't there already :(

Like Simon as said you can only have added to the protection even if there is a haze being caused from previous products.

Natural products tend to oxidise and break down quicker than synthetic polymers, by putting a product like carlac over a natural wax leaves the natural wax nowhere to go when it breaks down so sealing it and giving a poor light refraction (haze)for example.

If you are convinced that the finish is hazy rather than from damp then a wash with a more concentrated shampoo followed by a clay is the way forward. If there are swirls in the paintwork (and you don't want to m/c polish) then it might be an idea to use a synthetic polish with fillers in such as AG SRP which can then be sealed over with the Carlac though I prefer AG EGP. This in turn can be finished with a good natural wax.

My car is 18 months old. It looks shiny when the local handwash has cleaned it.

Soon afterwards it gets covered in genuine Derbyshire cow **** and road muck. If the paint is as durable as my old Passat it will look as shiny (to me anyway) at 6 years old (maybe the odd chip).

Gave up polishing many years ago when cars stopped rusting.

Each to his own.

Just been thinking about the shampoo process.

I don't use a particularly fancy shampoo. I use carplan triple wax shampoo.

This has waxes inside it. Could that be causing the haze if it reacts to the carlack products.

Should I use a more effective shampoo?!

I think from reading what I have read you need to start again really, stripping what you have applied and ensuring your working in a climate that is suitable as temperature will effect these LSP products............. :S

Appreciate you may not be keen on doing this but it sounds like your process may not be spot on............. :'(

Just been thinking about the shampoo process.

I don't use a particularly fancy shampoo. I use carplan triple wax shampoo.

This has waxes inside it. Could that be causing the haze if it reacts to the carlack products.

Should I use a more effective shampoo?!

I wouldn't have thought it would have had time to oxidise but anything is possible, don't know what formulates the triple wax, or how well it was rinsed off etc.

I tend to use Megs Gold conditioning shampoo for in between washes and Hyper wash if I am stripping the car back, haven't used an 'all in one' wash and wax shampoo since I stopped using a sponge

Edited 31 October, 201015 yr by postmanpat