Any had their vrs remapped by Celtic or ct tuning as their called in Ireland, any feedback about them?

Any had their vrs remapped by Celtic or ct tuning as their called in Ireland, any feedback about them?

Cant recommend them enuff......awesome results......go for it and DONT look back. You'll ENJOY the result :yes:

Graham at Celtic Tuning seems to know his stuff.

He's currently doing the stage 3 mapping for my car @ thier HQ is in Roche, Cornwall, PL26 8LX.

As long as the new MOT regs dont make the remap an automatic MOT failure. Has anyone found out how restrictive the new regs are yet??

As long as the new MOT regs dont make the remap an automatic MOT failure. Has anyone found out how restrictive the new regs are yet??

Actually, yes. Please stop scaremongering. All these new regulations will do is sort out the dodgy backstreet remappers from the ones who actually test their remaps and make sure they comply with the law. If you want a remap, you'll have to have a VOSA approved one, that's all. They haven't decided anything yet, and they have 12 months to do so, plus it's likely that it will only apply to cars of a certain age like the current ones do eg. not all cars actually have to have seatbelts, or two wing mirrors, or a whole raft of other things that weren't invented 50 years ago.

Think about what you are saying. There is no way that the MOT will be expanded to determine whether or not the ECU map on the car is identical to any of the possible software versions released by the manufacturer over the life of the vehicle. It just won't happen, which is why they are saying it is still in consultation. What almost certainly will happen is that they will start looking REALLY hard at emissions, at exhausts, at ride-heights, at headlamps for aftermarket xenons, at factory fitted xenons to make sure the self-levelling still works. In reality, all they are doing is what they have been doing in the strictest European countries for some time. In Germany, every MOT (TÃœV) testing station has a sort of wobble board that tests the shock aborbers. No springback check there, you get a printout stating the % efficacy of your dampers. They check an awful lot more than they do in a UK MOT and all the new regulations do is harmonise the checks across the EU so that you can take your UK car into a TÃœV station at 3 years old and the certificate will be valid in the UK. And vice versa, which certainly isn't the case at the moment.

... Please stop scaremongering ...

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Do you remember a few years, new EU regs where going to make it 'illegal' to fit aftermarket eletrical kit to a vehicle - this included all emergency vehicles ?

That hasn't happened.

Are the governemnt really going to make ALL vehicles with engine mods illegal ? If a vehicle with a modded ECU (bear in mind this includes commercial lorries, vans, police cars, ambulances, as well as domestic cars) would fail, what about those with engine swaps, big turbos, LPG systems, cars with Motec/emerald ECU's, etc ?

They would be litrately rendering thousands of vehicles 'illegal' overnight.

I can see big car companies would love a law like this - as they would see it as a way of forcing people who wanted a better car, having to buying a more expensive model.

In relation to this, many new ECU supposedly have 'tammper-proofing', which would let a dealer see if the car had been mapped (this invaliding the warrantly).

One of the areas Celtic Tuning have been working on, is by-passing these new 'tamper-proof' ECU's

The phrase used in the letters being sent out uses the terminology 'illegal engine chipping' (see quote from letter below) - so does this mean all those tuning companies out there are operating illegally now ?

If so why haven't the police/vosa/trading standards raided car tuners and confiscated their kit ?

The car/light goods vehicle MOT test is about to change the European Commission has changed the Directive that covers it. We take a look at when these changes are likely to come into effect and what they mean for MOT testers.

Britain has been testing vehicles under the MOT scheme for 50 years now. Last year, the EuropeanDirective covering the MOT test was updated and revised by a modern version called 2009/40/EC. This was then updated by 2010/48/EU, which was ratified on 5 July this year. The new Directive keeps the EUminimum 4-2-2 test frequency but adds a number of new elements to the British MOT test. The Directiveanticipates all test changes being in place by 1 January 2012, and a common European approach to test certificates in place by 1 January 2014. So what is VOSA doing to introduce the changes? In terms of test frequency, in mid-July the coalition government confirmed that it intends to look at the issue of MOT test frequencies later this year. VOSA contributed statistical data to inform the last review in 2008, and we expect that our computer system and the data you have entered will be utilised again in much the same way. We expect to hear more details of the governments review proposals later in the year.

As far as changes to the test content are concerned, VOSA has already been analysing the requirements of the new Directive and working out how to implement them. We started this earlier in the year by talking with representatives of the MOT trade at our regular Trade User Group and VTS Council meetings. Both VOSA and the Department for Transport (DfT) are keen to ensure that any changes to the test are introduced in as practical a way as possible, keeping the burden on the trade to a minimum and ideally keeping the changes cost neutral. In many cases, the changes shouldnt necessarily lead to an increase in average test times. A good example is the malfunction indicator lamps on the dashboard that indicate defective electronic power steering, electronic stability control and secondary restraint systems. Testers already check the dashboard for other lamps, so no extra time would be required for this addition to the test.Electrical wiring and batteries arenow included in the tests scope,but testers already check thevehicle structure where wiring issecured often along the sameroutes as other testable items,such as brake pipes in the enginecompartment. So again, thisdoesnt look like an additionalburden on the tester. In the precomputerisationdays, testers often(wrongly) failed vehicles for insecurebatteries, so they must have beenlooking at them then! Now, itmeans that when we implementthe new Directive, vehicles canlegitimately fail for battery insecurity,for no extra tester effort.

Other items such as headlamp bulb and unit incompatibility, headlamp levelling devices and illegal engine chipping will need further thought before we can get a workable solution for MOTstations. Some of the new items may require extra effort on the part of the tester when we know forsure what that is well be talking again with our trade and DfT colleagues to work out what theimpact will be.

The common EU test certificateshould be relatively easy to achieve the only data that the Directiveexpects and that we dont currentlyprovide is the symbol for thevehicles country of origin. Probably99% of vehicles tested will haveUK entered here, but if you do testvehicles with a foreign plate, youwill need to enter the correctcountry symbol. We may even beable to make this change earlier ifthere is a convenient opportunity.

The MOT trade can rest assuredthat VOSA is working closely withyou to introduce any new elementsas efficiently and effectively aspossible, with the minimum offuss. Just as importantly, we arealso working closely with Siemensto ensure that any system changesdue on New Years Eve 2011 gosmoothly! We should know moreby the time the MOT seminars takeplace come along and ask theexperts. Well also be sure to keepyou posted on developmentsthrough Matters of Testing

Edited 21 November, 201015 yr by snow_muncher

It won't happen, all the engine tuners well most would probably go bust causing even more chaos to the economy or is it economie lol

Edited 21 November, 201015 yr by Chris182

It won't happen, all the engine tuners well most would probably go bust causing even more chaos to the economy or is it economie lol

It has happened, and engine tuners will go bust. Effectively, you'll need a VOSA certificate to sell a remap or an aftermarket exhaust or many other things that could theoretically make your vehicle operate outwith it's original operating parameters. Do bear in mind though that you can still legitimately buy stuff that is basically illegal eg. exhausts for petrol cars that don't have catalytic convertors. You can buy them and fit them, but you won't pass an MOT. Not because you don't have a catalytic converter fitted (there is no law saying you ned one), but because your emissions will be excessive. It will be the same for remaps. Any remap that causes the car to exceed it's stated emissions ratings will fail the MOT. Simples.

I can see sales of STS boxes rocketing.