Good plan. Reliable is probably what you want the most at the moment anyway eh

Good plan. Reliable is probably what you want the most at the moment anyway eh

didnt know there was such a thing

Just another email saying thy both the hybrid 130 and the 150 will make the same power since they use the same internals.

Who is this your talking too? As that is seriously good news!

Cr turbos. Once I decide I'll see if I can get it any cheaper

I wouldn't bother dropping a PD150 turbo on the PD130, yeah it is stronger but not much point 'straight swap' wise. A hybrid is a different matter, I've had a stage 1 and stage 2 on my PD130 at the time and they were both rock solid with great usable range.

With regards the straight swap, it is as close as it will get on that - the housing needs rotating 90 degrees (from memory). This is dead-easy, there are screws that you undo a tad to allow the rotation, then just tighten them again afterward. The easiest way to do this - take off the old turbo. Put new one side by side with it, then figure it out. It is very obvious how to do it (hell I worked it out :p)

Get new gaskets for the swap if you do it yourself, they tend to have them in stock

I am now running a Kia 1.4 petrol which is a VERY different (slow/boring) experience compared to the Fab vRS estate which Ross (at that time at Unit 18) built - that was quite a lot more fun to drive hehe.

Even without the additional hardware, the benefit of the hybrid (when mapped) would be that it has to work way less hard to get you the same airflow/pressure your map requires, which keeps the temperatures lower as compared to a stock PD130 turbo being pushed to the limit (for similar power). A FMIC or at least venting the SMIC does make a difference in summer, but hey, we are getting weather reports from the UK on TV here so I doubt you're too worried on that front right now :p

Just another email saying thy both the hybrid 130 and the 150 will make the same power since they use the same internals.

If this is true, you just made my day

Are you talking hybrid 130 v standard 150?

Matt

Just another email saying thy both the hybrid 130 and the 150 will make the same power since they use the same internals.

Not what i was told when i was looking into turbos ! :S

I won't be able to find any evidence to back this up but I thought the differences between a "130" and a "150" turbo (if both Garrett) are:

- "130" is known as GT1749VA

- "150" is known as GT1749VB. ISTR it has a stronger shaft and a slightly larger compressor wheel than the VA.

It's the stronger shaft thing that would concern me if making a hybrid. If I recall correctly, then you get a stronger turbo starting from the "150" GT1749VB.

The KKK turbos fitted to most Polo, Ibiza, Fabia are not regarded as highly as the Garrett units. But that might just be down to volume. There are more of them about, these days, so more of them will be seen to blow up.

J.

Not what i was told when i was looking into turbos ! :S

Hmmm...was that the Garrett PD130 or the KKK one?

I'll go back to trawling eGay...

I am going to call cr turbos and find out.

Because what I have gathered . . The pd130+pd150 turbo can make the same power once being hybrid'd. But did they definatly not mean both could go to 210bhp while the 150 could go to 230 or so if it's done differently

If bother are hybrid then the 150 will be more powerful. Its bigger.

matt

Hybrid 150 is good for 220-230bhp

Standard 150 about 190-195bhp

Standard 130 about 160-170bhp

Hybrid 130 about 195-200bhp

All the above turbo's will suffice on a standard pd130 map for the time being

Dude, sick vrs btw.

What sort of mpg you getting out of your stg2?

Im considering the turbo dynamics hybrid 150 myself. What sort of mileage you put on it, all been good?

Cheers,

Kave

Dude, sick vrs btw.

What sort of mpg you getting out of your stg2?

Im considering the turbo dynamics hybrid 150 myself. What sort of mileage you put on it, all been good?

Cheers,

Kave

dont have it anymore but MPG was better than standard as the turbo was working less

on a trip with my friend 300miles plus my stage 2 got 56mpg and his with a remap got 53mpg

it had about 50k at stage2 i think was all good bar a few boost pipes needing replaced

also knackered the gearbox too

If bother are hybrid then the 150 will be more powerful. Its bigger.

matt

that's what I would have thought but it has been said otherwise

Here's the turbos available from Turbo Dynamics for the Fabia.

http://www.turbodynamics.co.uk/acatalog/SKODA_FABIA.html

I believe matt is correct. The 150 Hybrid will make more power than a hybridised pd 130. I found this out the other day as iv just bought a 150 turbo, with the plan from now till then to hybrid it and uprate the brakes and clutch. Thinking of sticking with the standard smic and adding some venting/ducting to help it get more air. im not going to be running it with stupid power just more than at the moment and cant justify the extra 550+ for a forge intercooler.

Elliott

I think cr turbos badly worded their message to craig. I am keeping a look out for the pd150 turbo. . .

Hi Craig,

Wether starting with a 130 or 150 the finished hybrid will give exactly the same power as the wheels used to hybrid will be the same size.

If you bought the standard 150 from us now and hybrided later, we would possibly consider a discount on the work as you were a returning customer.

hope this helps

Cheers

Mark Arnold

C R Turbo Engineering

When asked about which would be stonger the reply was that they both come with the 12 month warranty.

From my perspective, im saving £300 ish by doing the 130... and getting the same power / reliability.

That doesn't sound right to me. The 130 is a smaller turbo, i'v not heard of one pushing 220-230bhp. :-/ if this were the case no one would be after the 150's.

Matt

That doesn't sound right to me. The 130 is a smaller turbo, i'v not heard of one pushing 220-230bhp. :-/ if this were the case no one would be after the 150's.

Matt

is the PD130 turbo smaller than a 150/160 though? aren't the housings the same externally and the differences are internal, when you modify the housings to fit the same internals is the end result different?

Well turbo technics done my mates, saying it'd spool up quicker cos it's smaller. When I asked them the ratings, they rate them 210bhp max, which is a good 20bhp behind a 150 hybrid.

Matt

As far as i am aware, they are in the same housing...

Can anyone confirm this?

Seems to be a lot of confusion...

Just scouted about, very similar topic on SCN, found the following;

"PD 130 and 150 turbos have the same size compressor and turbine wheels just different housing, manifold and bolt pattern design."

Matt