Isn't the dealer supposed to set them up when they get the car?

I had a friend with a 56 Plate Cooper S with xenons and he was complaining that the lights were really low etc so I said to take it to the dealer and sure enough they weren't set-up properly. They sorted it out and they were much improved... not lighting up just the little patch of road in front of the car any more!

Isn't the dealer supposed to set them up when they get the car?

I had a friend with a 56 Plate Cooper S with xenons and he was complaining that the lights were really low etc so I said to take it to the dealer and sure enough they weren't set-up properly. They sorted it out and they were much improved... not lighting up just the little patch of road in front of the car any more!

Yea, I am going to dealer tomorow. Hopefully, they will be fixed.

I was just wondering if octavia afs xenons adjust according to speed or not. Maybe dealer will know.

I'm sorry, i don't want to pick your post apart, i know where you're coming from, but everything i've written is spot on, totally accurate.

Hella themselves are pretty good for more info

From: http://www.hella.com/produktion/HellaUSA/WebSite/Channels/Drivers/Technology/Bi_Xenon/Bi_Xenon.jsp

There's some pictures on http://www.hella.com/hella-uk-en/299.html in the bi-xenon case, the yellow light of the halogens is still visible above the xenon beam pattern -- as well as the xenon shutters going to full beam, they've got the halogens high beams on too.

EDIT: sorry just spotted the mention about Skoda, it's the same system on the FL octy as on the Bi xenon superb, i.e. halogens come on as well as moving the shutters on both cars.

I'm not trying to pick an argument, I agree with everything you write about how Bi-Xenons operate. If you read my very first post again you will see I even said this is how they operate (in most cases).

Where we disagree is that you say the Octavia has Bi-Xenon headlights, and I don't think it does. I have yet to see a single piece of literature that confirms, or even hints at, the Octavia having Bi-xenons. Like-wise there's no evidence I've seen (certainly not the pictures on the Hella site) that shows it's usual for the halogen 'flashing bulb' to come on at the same time as the Xenon shutter moves to high beam in Bi-Xenon cars.

I can't prove it doesn't have Bi-Xenons (other than a lack of anything saying it does!) and unless you can prove it does then I guess we have to agree to disagree

I'm not trying to pick an argument, I agree with everything you write about how Bi-Xenons operate. If you read my very first post again you will see I even said this is how they operate (in most cases).

Where we disagree is that you say the Octavia has Bi-Xenon headlights, and I don't think it does. I have yet to see a single piece of literature that confirms, or even hints at, the Octavia having Bi-xenons. Like-wise there's no evidence I've seen (certainly not the pictures on the Hella site) that shows it's usual for the halogen 'flashing bulb' to come on at the same time as the Xenon shutter moves to high beam in Bi-Xenon cars.

I can't prove it doesn't have Bi-Xenons (other than a lack of anything saying it does!) and unless you can prove it does then I guess we have to agree to disagree

The Octavia does not have Bi-Xenon Headlights. Full stop. They have a single Xenon bulb for dip and Halogen main beam. On main beam both the Xenon and Halogen bulbs are lit. Believe me. I've held the unit in my very own mits and have seen whats in their !

Yea, I am going to dealer tomorow. Hopefully, they will be fixed.

I was just wondering if octavia afs xenons adjust according to speed or not. Maybe dealer will know.

Yes. I can tell you 100% catagorically that Xenons on facelift Octavias have AFS2 and adjust the beam pattern according to speed and driving conditions. ie if it's raining. At least in the UK they do.

The Octavia does not have Bi-Xenon Headlights. Full stop. They have a single Xenon bulb for dip and Halogen main beam. On main beam both the Xenon and Halogen bulbs are lit. Believe me. I've held the unit in my very own mits and have seen whats in their !

Ok, so you hold it you hands, cool. Does it change beam height according to speed, is it connected to canbus to get speed readings?

OK not been funny but is this a windup ?

As I put in the post above yours just incase you missed it :

'Yes. I can tell you 100% catagorically that Xenons on facelift Octavias have AFS2 and adjust the beam pattern according to speed and driving conditions. ie if it's raining. At least in the UK they do."

As for the canbus question I have no idea.

Like-wise there's no evidence I've seen (certainly not the pictures on the Hella site) that shows it's usual for the halogen 'flashing bulb' to come on at the same time as the Xenon shutter moves to high beam in Bi-Xenon cars.

I'm finding this xenon debate very interesting.

I can confirm that the halogen flash function on the Superb does also come on with not just flash but main beam too.

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/183595-fitting-high-beam-zenons/

+1 on the Superb headlights.

Dipped beam - xenon lamp partially obscured by a shutter

Main beam - xenon lamp (raised shutter) plus halogen lamps to assist xenon high beam

Flash with headlights on - raising of xenon shutter plus flash of halogens for as long as the stalk is pulled back.

Flash with headlights off - activation of halogen lamps ONLY

I too was under the impression that the FL Octavia did NOT have bi xenon lamps as I recall a few people being unhappy that the halogen only main beam system was carried over from the pre FL Octavia.

It's certainly different to the Yeti system - that has swivelling bi xenon units and no halogen lamp.

Could anyone else with a facelift octy and xenons chip in, driving along flat bit of road, put your main beams on, ignore the halogen lights and watch the xenon light pattern.

I'm not going mad, honest!

I'm finding this xenon debate very interesting.I can confirm that the halogen flash function on the Superb does also come on with not just flash but main beam too.http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/183595-fitting-high-beam-zenons/

Oh well, proved wrong on that bit

Could anyone else with a facelift octy and xenons chip in, driving along flat bit of road, put your main beams on, ignore the halogen lights and watch the xenon light pattern.I'm not going mad, honest!

I don't think anyone reckons you're making it up mate. It must be to do with the AFS system surely? The beam pattern moves depending on speed to light up different sections of the road (i.e it will light up more of the pavement area when you are travelling slowly) so it would make sense that the beam shape would adapt to 'help out' the full beam when you have that on?

I don't think the automatic adjustment of the height of the Octavia xenon beam is in question here.

What seems to be causing confusion is the definition between xenon and bi-xenon headlights.

Traditionally the way you could tell the difference was that bi-xenon uses a mechanical system to set the beam of light.

This can be done in one of two ways; the first is by moving the bulb itself, so that it aims appropriately, or secondly, by using a fixed bulb with movable reflectors.

The introduction of AFS complicates things as this system alters the beam yet is utilised by Skoda on both xenon (Octavia) and bi-xenon (Superb) headlights.

As the Superb retains the electronic shutters they can truly be called bi-xenon.

As the Octavia doesn't have these shutters they are simply xenon headlights.

However, technically, as the Octavia xenon headlight benefits from AFS which automatically adjusts the height of the beam I understand why it could be argued that the Octavia also has bi-xenon headlights!

The introduction of AFS complicates things as this system alters the beam yet is utilised by Skoda on both xenon (Octavia) and bi-xenon (Superb) headlights.

As the Superb retains the electronic shutters they can truly be called bi-xenon.

As the Octavia doesn't have these shutters they are simply xenon headlights.

However, technically, as the Octavia xenon headlight benefits from AFS which automatically adjusts the height of the beam I understand why it could be argued that the Octavia also has bi-xenon headlights!

+1

the octavia xenons (NOT bi-xenons) are aided by the afs technology.

they're not true bi-xenon.

the superb's bi-xenons are also aided by the afs technology.

either way - sadly all this afs talk is useless for me as the oz spec'ed octavias don't get afs2, let alone afs!! :(

Edited 11 January, 201115 yr by JR RS

I was a little dissapointed with the Xenons on my new Scout compared to my old Elegance. I thought they were not lighting enough of the road.

I mentioned it to my Dealer who checked them out and sure enough they were not setup properly. I would estimate a 60% improvement after Bickertons had breathed on them.

Ditto

The ones on our Scout were the same. I mentioned it to the dealer at the first service & it came back massivly improved, they were well out of adjustment. We also had probs with the alarm going off with the smallest fly in the car & again this was set on too high a sensitivity

I went to the dealer today. Xenons were good, they checked it with machine. I had hard persuading guy to raise it a little bit. He did evetually. I'll see in the evening how it goes.

He said xenons are definitely not going up and down based on speed. Just left and right, and adjusting based on the load. :S No luck if you don't live in UK.

He said xenons are definitely not going up and down based on speed. Just left and right, and adjusting based on the load. :S No luck if you don't live in UK.

like me, looks like u guys don't get afs either :(

which country r u in btw?

like me, looks like u guys don't get afs either :(

which country r u in btw?

Croatia.

I am thinking of taking my new Octy to dealer next week. My problem is that my xenon low beam looks ridiculously short.

I just went out and measured it. My problematic part is visibility directly in front of the car, the lane I am driving in. It goes around 35-40 meters. Which I think is way too short for xenon.

I don't want to look stupid, any ideas how far the low xenon beam should go?

Like you I was disappointed with xenons on my new scout and asked on here and was told that was about right but regardless think they are rubbish so will try dealer to see if they can raise

Like you I was disappointed with xenons on my new scout and asked on here and was told that was about right but regardless think they are rubbish so will try dealer to see if they can raise

Yea, I went to dealer yesterday, they raised it a little bit.

Generally, bending function is nice, and amount of light thrown near the road is amazing.

It's just that by mistake I expected to get Superb AFS with motorway mode, etc, which is adjusted based on speed.

If you gogle for: octavia "motorway mode" -superb

you get no results, so it was my mistake.

Case closed.

Octavia manual:

Headlights fitted with Xenon bulbs* adapt automatically to the load and driving state

of the vehicle (e.g. accelerating, braking) when the ignition is switched on and when

driving. Vehicles which are equipped with Xenon bulbs* do not have a manual headlight

range adjustment control.

Superb manual:

Adaptive headlights (AHL)*

Switch on Adaptive headlights (AHL)*

– Turn the light switch  page 61, fig. 47 into position .

The AHL system* is activated if:

 the light sensor recognizes the low light intensity,

 no reverse gear is engaged,

 the operation “tourist light” is not switched on.

The light sensor switches on the full outer illumination at low light intensity.

System AHL* makes it possible to change the length and width of illumination of the

headlight. The length and width of illumination changes automatically in relation to the

vehicle speed and the use of the windscreen wiper.

System AHL* operates in the following modes.

Mode out of town

The mode “out of town” is a basic mode. The dispersion of the cone of light in front of

the vehicle is similar to the low beam. The mode is active if none of the following

modes are active.

Mode rain

In the mode “rain” the dispersion of the cone of light in front of the vehicle is wider and

the width of illumination is shorter, so that during bad weather (rain) the dazzling of

the oncoming drivers can be reduced. The mode is activated at speeds of 15 - 70 km/h

and if the windscreen wipers continuously operate for a period of time longer than 2

minutes. The mode is deactivated when dropping below or exceeding the set speed

limit or if the windscreen wipers have been switched off for a period of time longer

than 8 minutes.

Mode city

In the mode “city”, the dispersion of the cone of light in front of the vehicle is wider and

the width of illumination is shorter. It has as an aim to illuminate the adjacent footpaths,

crossings, pedestrian crossings etc. The mode is active at speeds of 15 - 50 km/h.

Mode motorway

In the mode “motorway” the dispersion of the cone of light is so widespread, that it illuminates

also the left (and right) 7) lane of the motorway, so that the driver can react in

time to an obstacle or any other danger. The mode is activated stepwise as of a speed

of 90 km/h. It gains its greatest effectiveness at speeds above 120 km/h.

Case closed.

Eh?

What have you provided that hasn't already been discussed?

It is stamped very small on the chrome bit on the edge of the projector.

dont suppose you have a pic of this do you? I checked mine yeserdday and all I can see is bending xenon. I was thinking that mine arent working properly as they dont extend in the road when going faster. (mines a UK FL 2010 VRS)

EDIT, or is there anything I can check in VCDS that would confirm ive got AFSii?

Edited 17 January, 201115 yr by sworrall

On my FL Scout it says only bending xexon 70mm x something. No Bi-Xenon anywhere. But I think we all agree that Octavia does not have bixenons.

I checked mine yeserdday and all I can see is bending xenon. I was thinking that mine arent working properly as they dont extend in the road when going faster. (mines a UK FL 2010 VRS)

+1

i thought all octavias (in the uk) optioned with xenons, came with AFS!?!?

thats wat it says in ur brochure.

i'd b pe'ed off if it weren't the case!!!

it doesn't say so for us aussie specs, so me can't complain.

On my FL Scout it says only bending xexon 70mm x something. No Bi-Xenon anywhere. But I think we all agree that Octavia does not have bixenons.

im not worried about the bi-xenon. its the AFS-ii im checking and im hoping that I havent got the wrong one installed. If yours is the same as mine then maybe im ok.

+1

i thought all octavias (in the uk) optioned with xenons, came with AFS!?!?

thats wat it says in ur brochure.

i'd b pe'ed off if it weren't the case!!!

it doesn't say so for us aussie specs, so me can't complain.

I know JR, im hoping they havent fitted the wrong ones to mine :(

I checked at the back of the lights and it has the following codes on

5DF 009 368-15

AFS-LEISTUNGSMODUL

7L6 941 329 B

hopefully someone may know what this means